my recommendation is always the latter, you shouldn't expose Cloudflare API tokens directly to users

my recommendation is always the latter, you shouldn't expose Cloudflare API tokens directly to users and instead maybe create your own (maybe by using auth providers, like clerk and so on) - so that you can also have proper validation in your endpoints too

SSeekerdasbatatas my recommendation is always the latter, you shouldn't expose Cloudflare API toke...

Matt Silverlock•4/4/25, 1:40 PM

Strongly agree here. If you need client side authentication, use a library or tooling that’s appropriate for that + gives you the controls that allow you to scope access precisely

Matt Silverlock•4/4/25, 1:41 PM

That will also allow you rate limit clients, emit metrics to Analytics Engine, validate payloads, etc - before they hit the workflow

Marc•4/4/25, 3:10 PM

Suddenly whenever my worker invokes my workflow I am getting a 500 error (Error: internal error {} )

I've tried looking all over for a better error log to explain what's going on but so far can't get it to tell me. If I wrap the workflow create call in a try catch all I get is the above error.

My only slight lead is that maybe this started to happen after I tried to cross script bind the workflow to another worker, but that's not the script I'm calling this one from. Could a bad binding to something else be messing up this binding?

Any leads on where to get a better error message on what's wrong or is there something going on with workflows?

Justin•4/4/25, 8:24 PM

What's the best practice for making a workflow step conditional?

Like, can I do the following to skip a step entirely?

const shouldHappen = await step.do('check condition', async () => { return false })
if (shouldHappen) {
  await step.do('conditional step', async () => { //do something })
}

const shouldHappen = await step.do('check condition', async () => { return false })
if (shouldHappen) {
  await step.do('conditional step', async () => { //do something })
}

Or, should I evaluate the condition within a step, like this?

const shouldHappen = await step.do('check condition', async () => { return false })
await step.do('conditional step', async () => {
  if (!shouldHappen) return
  //do something
})

const shouldHappen = await step.do('check condition', async () => { return false })
await step.do('conditional step', async () => {
  if (!shouldHappen) return
  //do something
})

JJustin What's the best practice for making a workflow step conditional? Like, can I do...

Matt Silverlock•4/5/25, 12:53 PM

I like to say: Workflows are just code. Call steps conditionally, use Promise.all or p-map or (etc) to run steps concurrently. stepstep methods are just async function calls at the end of the day.

dragonli•4/6/25, 12:27 AM

Is there anyone who knows how to make the workflow execute immediately?

I found that there seems to be a delay between triggering the creation of a workflow from a worker and the actual execution of the workflow.

According to the test, it is close to 4 or 5 seconds. How can I make the workflow execute immediately?

dragonli•4/6/25, 12:31 AM

Currently, I'm triggering workflows via webhooks and want them to execute as quickly as possible. Should I switch to long-polling an API within the workflow instead? Is this usage considered a best practice?

Kiwi•4/6/25, 3:54 AM

I'm also seeing this from my RPC call to workflow spin up being quite slow. It is so slow that I'm actually going to bring that code back into my request flow as it will be on the whole quicker.

KKiwi I'm also seeing this from my RPC call to workflow spin up being quite slow. It i...

Matt Silverlock•4/7/25, 11:01 AM

What do you define as slow here? Workflows are designed for async tasks, so if you’re trying to run something that only takes a few seconds it may not make sense. But the Workflow itself should fire off quickly, provided you aren’t at concurrency limits.

FFrederik Is there a roadmap for upcoming workflow features? Something that is a bit more ...

Matt Silverlock•4/7/25, 12:48 PM

step.waitForEventstep.waitForEvent

https://developers.cloudflare.com/workflows/build/events-and-parameters/#wait-for-events

Matt Silverlock•4/7/25, 1:33 PM

@Workflows - Workflows is GA + we've shipped the new step.waitForEventstep.waitForEvent (and

instance.sendEvent

instance.sendEvent

) APIs! https://blog.cloudflare.com/workflows-ga-production-ready-durable-execution/

The Cloudflare Blog

Cloudflare Workflows is now GA: production-ready durable execution

Workflows — a durable execution engine built directly on top of Workers — is now Generally Available. We’ve landed new human-in-the-loop capabilities, more scale, and more metrics: just what you need for a production-ready service.

Jadugar_Jaggu•4/7/25, 5:38 PM

it seems workflows are little bit slower today?

JJadugar_Jaggu it seems workflows are little bit slower today?

SeekerdasbatatasOP•4/7/25, 6:35 PM

slower in what sense? if it's because of instance creation, you might be creating too many instances in short periods of time which have a higher load - I would recommend looking into

createBatch

createBatch

to reduce the number of calls, if that applies to your usecase

SSeekerdasbatatas slower in what sense? if it's because of instance creation, you might be creatin...

Jadugar_Jaggu•4/7/25, 6:36 PM

No it's in the sense of performance, previously my workflows were taking 8 to 15 minutes to complete now they are taking almost 40 minutes +

Jadugar_Jaggu•4/7/25, 6:36 PM

maybe a hour

JJadugar_Jaggu No it's in the sense of performance, previously my workflows were taking 8 to 15...

SeekerdasbatatasOP•4/7/25, 6:39 PM

they are taking that time from running to a completed state or from a queued state to a complete one? anyway can we have your account id so we can look at it?

SSeekerdasbatatas they are taking that time from running to a completed state or from a queued sta...

Jadugar_Jaggu•4/7/25, 6:43 PM

For running to completed state. sent you I'd in DM

Jadugar_Jaggu•4/7/25, 6:44 PM

not able to DM you

Suman!•4/7/25, 7:21 PM

Hey guys,
I am getting an error when using this new Workflow API sendEvent in the production environment. Local works as expected.

const workflow = await this.env.CONNECTIONS_WORKFLOW.get(workflowId);
    await workflow.sendEvent({ type: 'form-submission', payload });

const workflow = await this.env.CONNECTIONS_WORKFLOW.get(workflowId);
    await workflow.sendEvent({ type: 'form-submission', payload });

Error message:

TypeError: (intermediate value).sendEvent is not a function

TypeError: (intermediate value).sendEvent is not a function

Adrien•4/7/25, 7:45 PM

Hey and congrats for GA

!
Is it possible to have an in-progress state that could be queried? In the case of an onboarding workflow, while we wait on a specific outside event, we can fetch the status of the workflow and some arbitrary data. Maybe similar to Temporal Query feature?

SSuman!Hey guys, I am getting an error when using this new Workflow API sendEvent in th...

Jadugar_Jaggu•4/7/25, 7:52 PM

update your project wrangler version

JJadugar_Jaggu update your project wrangler version

Suman!•4/7/25, 7:53 PM

I think it's already at its peak

SSuman!I think it's already at its peak

Jadugar_Jaggu•4/7/25, 7:56 PM

it may be a global wrangler, check inside package.json what is the wrangler version

JJadugar_Jaggu it may be a global wrangler, check inside package.json what is the wrangler vers...

Suman!•4/7/25, 7:57 PM

Same - 4.8.0

SSuman!Same - 4.8.0

Jadugar_Jaggu•4/7/25, 7:57 PM

did you generate types ? npm run cf-typegen

JJadugar_Jaggu did you generate types ? npm run cf-typegen

Suman!•4/7/25, 7:59 PM

Yes

SSuman!Hey guys, I am getting an error when using this new Workflow API sendEvent in th...

Matt Silverlock•4/8/25, 12:34 AM

workflow

workflow

definitely a

WorkflowInstance

WorkflowInstance

? Can you call

await workflow.status()

await workflow.status()

successfully?

jcheese•4/8/25, 1:26 AM

hi guys - is there a way to repeat the workflow multiple times? for example, when i go through step 1 - 5, and if some condition isnt met, start again from step 1. sort of like a recursive function

gruntlord6•4/8/25, 2:51 AM

Is there plans to have a template like other workers as an example?

gruntlord6•4/8/25, 2:53 AM

I see the example but I find working templates are a much better way to get started

MMatt Silverlock Is `workflow` definitely a `WorkflowInstance` - ? Can you call `await workflow.s...

Suman!•4/8/25, 4:03 AM

Yep - It is a

WorkflowInstance

WorkflowInstance

and I can call

await workflow.status()

await workflow.status()

. Getting issue only calling

sendEvent

sendEvent

TypeError: a.sendEvent is not a function

TypeError: a.sendEvent is not a function

and this occurs only on the production environment. Local works good.

Logging -

console.log({ status: (await workflow.status()).status, workflow: JSON.stringify(workflow) });

console.log({ status: (await workflow.status()).status, workflow: JSON.stringify(workflow) });

workflow = {"fetcher":{},"id":"dcd3c481-07d4-44ff-bcd5-94e2502bc6ff"}"
status = "running"

workflow = {"fetcher":{},"id":"dcd3c481-07d4-44ff-bcd5-94e2502bc6ff"}"
status = "running"

Jjcheese hi guys - is there a way to repeat the workflow multiple times? for example, whe...

Matt Silverlock•4/8/25, 6:38 AM

Create a new Workflow instance from inside the current Workflow

SSuman!Yep - It is a `WorkflowInstance` and I can call `await workflow.status()`. Gett...

Matt Silverlock•4/8/25, 7:37 AM

@Diogo Ferreira @Seekerdasbatatas since I’m travelling / in transit

Ggruntlord6 Is there plans to have a template like other workers as an example?

Matt Silverlock•4/8/25, 7:53 AM

Have you seen:

npm create cloudflare@latest -- --template cloudflare/agents-starter

npm create cloudflare@latest -- --template cloudflare/agents-starter

we’ll be adding this to wrangler soon, but it’s the same template

AAdrien Hey and congrats for GA 🎉 ! Is it possible to have an in-progress state that c...

Adrien•4/8/25, 8:55 AM

Maybe storing something in KV as part of a step with the key being the workflow id, and having the

fetch

fetch

function of the workflow/worker fetch it would work

cosbgn•4/8/25, 9:03 AM

I have a platform which is something like Zapier. My user want to schedule their own CRONs. Like run this action every 5 minutes. Is this something I can do with workflows?

Ccosbgn I have a platform which is something like Zapier. My user want to schedule their...

Matt Silverlock•4/8/25, 12:41 PM

Can you describe a little more about what you're trying to do? Workflows are great for multi-step / async tasks, but aren't themselves a "task scheduler" - you can use Durable Object Alarms, the Agents SDK (and the scheduling API), or even Cron Triggers to schedule tasks - incl. Workflows.

MMatt Silverlock Have you seen: ```sh npm create cloudflare@latest -- --template cloudflare/agent...

gruntlord6•4/8/25, 1:11 PM

no I did not, I was under the impression templates were in the dashboard

MMatt Silverlock Can you describe a little more about what you're trying to do? Workflows are gre...

cosbgn•4/8/25, 1:14 PM

Pretty much say my user has a workflow like:

Search for new concerts in Rome and email me if tickets are less than 50$

Search for new concerts in Rome and email me if tickets are less than 50$

run it
```
every 6 hours
```
```
every 6 hours
```

My current system works like this: I have a single CRON which runs every minute, queries the DB for pending jobs and runs them. This works but is not really scalable. I'm thinking how I could setup a system where the user defined cron interval would be the trigger. i.e. when the user saves the workflow I create a new cron/alter/workflow/whatever which takes care of this one.

Ccosbgn Pretty much say my user has a workflow like: - `Search for new concerts in Rome...

Matt Silverlock•4/8/25, 1:37 PM

I'd consider using an Agent - e.g. an Agent for each user + the Agent schedules a ticket-search Workflow that runs the search + validates prices + reports back

Ccosbgn Pretty much say my user has a workflow like: - `Search for new concerts in Rome...

Matt Silverlock•4/8/25, 1:39 PM

This isn't the same, but it's similar: each repo is associated with an Agent -> the Agent kicks a Workflow for each PR.

In your case, it's an Agent per user, and the Workflow is for a ticket-search (instead of a PR/code review):

cosbgn•4/8/25, 1:40 PM

Yeah I'm looking at the agents api

cosbgn•4/8/25, 1:40 PM

thanks

Craig•4/8/25, 2:48 PM

Hey guys, Should I move all of my complex tasks in workers into workflows? so far it seems like it doesn’t have that much disadvantages aside from being a little bit complicated.

CCraig Hey guys, Should I move all of my complex tasks in workers into workflows? so fa...

gruntlord6•4/8/25, 3:08 PM

workflows seem a lot more streamlined an maintainable then doing the tasks independently, especially if they involve multiple workers or services.

theres also some things unique like the r2 trigger that could be really usefull on its own

gruntlord6•4/8/25, 3:09 PM

I'm going to try and move one of my pipeline systems over and see how it goes, it looks promising

Ggruntlord6 workflows seem a lot more streamlined an maintainable then doing the tasks indep...

Craig•4/8/25, 3:11 PM

Yeah, that’s really attempting

gruntlord6•4/8/25, 3:11 PM

thats why I am glad theres a template as a starting point , give me something to start with and migrate over the pieces

my recommendation is always the latter, you shouldn't expose Cloudflare API tokens directly to users

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