Are we still quite a ways off from having an input stream and output stream of differing formats? Sp

Are we still quite a ways off from having an input stream and output stream of differing formats? Specifically, I have a use case where I need to stream in with SRT and output to WHEP. Stream seems like the perfect product for this, rather than running a conversion gateway locally to produce a WHIP stream.

joe-dev•4/22/25, 7:55 AM

Is there anyone that can sanity check some of my pricing calculations?

joe-dev•4/22/25, 7:55 AM

20,000 viewers of 1200 minutes per month.

$1 per 1000 minutes = $0.001 per minute.

Cost per user: 0.001 * 1200 = $1.20

Total cost per month: 20,000 * 1.2 = $24000

Jjoe-dev 20,000 viewers of 1200 minutes per month. $1 per 1000 minutes = $0.001 per min...

1984 Ford Laser•4/22/25, 10:51 AM

Do you have existing accurate analytics to support your view numbers, or just basing off rough numbers? Your math is correct, but its very rare that a viewer will be watching long form content for the entire time. I do many regular 3 hour streams, with hundreds of total views, and average 5-25K minutes viewed per stream. Which means each viewer is only watching a small portion of the total runtime on average

JJoel Are we still quite a ways off from having an input stream and output stream of d...

1984 Ford Laser•4/22/25, 10:53 AM

Definitely curious on this one, would open some cool use cases

1984 Ford Laser•4/22/25, 10:59 AM

I've asked this before, but with the Browser Rendering API and OTFE platform slowly maturing over time, is there possibility for being able to inject a HTML5 browser instance over the top of a live stream? That and input switching would be the only things I need to entirely transition from AWS

11984 Ford Laser Do you have existing accurate analytics to support your view numbers, or just ba...

joe-dev•4/22/25, 11:05 AM

Yeah, this is all theoretical; on behalf of a client I'm doing consulting for. I too, think the numbers are ambitious, but I have to give them a cost based on their figures

Jjoe-dev Yeah, this is all theoretical; on behalf of a client I'm doing consulting for. I...

1984 Ford Laser•4/22/25, 11:06 AM

From pure math, the cost is legit. But in my experience (2000 videos per year), CF Stream is the cheapest around without having huge bandwidth/view numbers (many millions)

11984 Ford Laser From pure math, the cost is legit. But in my experience (2000 videos per year), ...

joe-dev•4/22/25, 11:07 AM

Do you happen to know if there's any price breaks for large users? there's no mentions on the site

1984 Ford Laser•4/22/25, 11:08 AM

Enterprise starts at 3K per month but I've had no concrete confirmation of price cut numbers because I'm below that monthly minimum usage

joe-dev•4/22/25, 11:09 AM

interesting

joe-dev•4/22/25, 11:09 AM

it seems that Bunny is quite competitive

1984 Ford Laser•4/22/25, 11:10 AM

On Bunny, you pay for encode as well as viewing right? And its per GB instead of per min?

1984 Ford Laser•4/22/25, 11:10 AM

Stream comes up cheaper cos someone viewing at 1080P costs the same as someone viewing at 360P

joe-dev•4/22/25, 11:12 AM

from a conversation with them it's a fair bit cheaper at volume

joe-dev•4/22/25, 11:12 AM

the client is also assuming that everyone will view at 1080p :/

Jjoe-dev the client is also assuming that everyone will view at 1080p :/

1984 Ford Laser•4/22/25, 11:12 AM

Yeah that won't happen lmao

Jjoe-dev from a conversation with them it's a fair bit cheaper at volume

1984 Ford Laser•4/22/25, 11:12 AM

I'd be interested to know what 'volume' starts at

joe-dev•4/22/25, 11:13 AM

I think it's mostly to work out worst case scenarios

joe-dev•4/22/25, 11:14 AM

over 166TB of bandwidth is 'send enquiry'

1984 Ford Laser•4/22/25, 11:14 AM

What bandwidth numbers have you calculated at your estimated view numbers?

joe-dev•4/22/25, 11:14 AM

560TB

joe-dev•4/22/25, 11:15 AM

in reality it should be a lot lower, but worst case scenario...

1984 Ford Laser•4/22/25, 11:16 AM

Are you doing streams or VODs?

joe-dev•4/22/25, 11:16 AM

both

joe-dev•4/22/25, 11:16 AM

they're expecting around a 50/50 split

joe-dev•4/22/25, 11:16 AM

but it's all theoretical, I think these numbers are way off

1984 Ford Laser•4/22/25, 11:16 AM

If you were to transcode on your end, then deliver using #r2 , costs would be lower

Jjoe-dev but it's all theoretical, I think these numbers are way off

1984 Ford Laser•4/22/25, 11:16 AM

Agreed

joe-dev•4/22/25, 11:17 AM

I've heard about doing that with r2, but they're keen for something stupid simple, so I'm not going to throw it in the mix yet

1984 Ford Laser•4/22/25, 11:17 AM

Im unsure of how easy Bunny Stream is to implement, but the costing and ease of usability of CF Stream is good

1984 Ford Laser•4/22/25, 11:18 AM

I was able to transition 12 streams on the fly within 5 minutes to Cloudflare due to an outage with our old streaming provider and haven't looked back. Very easy to use

joe-dev•4/22/25, 12:21 PM

thats good to know @1984 Ford Laser

joe-dev•4/22/25, 12:21 PM

What was the old platform out of interest?

Jjoe-dev both

gtech9451•4/22/25, 2:51 PM

Does bunny provide live streaming? I thought it was just VOD?

joe-dev•4/22/25, 3:04 PM

I'm just getting some clarification on that @gtech9451

joe-dev•4/22/25, 3:04 PM

the product is called Stream, so you'd hope so...

joe-dev•4/22/25, 3:13 PM

according to their AI chat:

joe-dev•4/22/25, 3:13 PM

gtech9451•4/22/25, 4:18 PM

Other thing to be aware; you might need to use Bunny's CDN - so if you're using Cloudflare, double check

gtech9451•4/22/25, 4:18 PM

We noticed that if we wanted to use the Image Optimization/Offloading; we had to use their CDN

joe-dev•4/22/25, 10:01 PM

Ah, interesting. That's probably not a deal breaker, but good to know. Thanks.

Jjoe-dev What was the old platform out of interest?

1984 Ford Laser•4/22/25, 11:22 PM

Dacast, was a platform used by my workplace before I started. Was okay for vod streaming, but failed us multiple times for live. CF Stream has been rock solid and very cost effective, greatly lowering yearly costs for streaming

1984 Ford Laser•4/23/25, 3:50 AM

Not sure if its this?
https://developers.cloudflare.com/support/troubleshooting/http-status-codes/cloudflare-1xxx-errors/#errors-1006-1007-1008-or-1106-access-denied-your-ip-address-has-been-banned

Cloudflare Docs

Cloudflare 1XXX errors · Cloudflare Support docs

The errors covered in this document may occur when accessing a website proxied by Cloudflare. For issues related to the Cloudflare API or dashboard, refer to our Cloudflare API documentation.

vi3t•4/24/25, 3:28 AM

Hi,

I'm having issues with Sony's Creator APP SRT streaming on their cameras to cloudflare servers.

Does anyone know how I can get it to work? These are the only fields available.

Things I've tried:

copy full CF URL into URL field
copy a portion of the CF URL into URL field and enable encryption and added passphrase
added passphrase/stream id into passphrase field

So far none has worked. Any help would be amazing

1984 Ford Laser•4/24/25, 7:46 AM

You might need to leave in a trailing slash on the URL? I've had that issue before with LiveU and AWS Medialive

vi3t•4/24/25, 8:19 AM

Trailing slash? Can you give me an example

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