Organic , Isomers
there was a question for counting no of structures , she counted both trans as seprate , why? both trans are the same if one is up and other is down why does it matter both groups are the same
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+solved @user1 @user2... to close the thread when your doubt is solved. Mention the users who helped you solve the doubt. This will be added to their stats.The groups on carbons can be diff
no stereo matters
they arnt in the question
those are CH3
when there are different structures possible in the compund
for stereo
there should only be 2 , Cis and Trans
why 2 in trans
both trans are same
here there are total 3
see the spaatial orentation
the wedge and dash
why does it matter , the molecule looks symmetric to me , which is wedge which is dash why would it matter
Just a moment. Why are there only three bonds on each carbon? Or is the hydrogen implied?
they both the first carbon from O
in cis there is either only dash and dash or wedge and wedge so thts one
hydrogen implied
cuz its 2d to you
but its actually 3d
wedge and dash matters in spatial orentation
pretty sure oxygen and carbons in same plane
They're identical unless the carbons are unique then.
Yup
there was no specification , do i send question
yeah
Wait a sec
Ok, they're unique.
You can think about flipping the compound
It won't give the other one
still , if one CH3 is above plane and other is Behind Plane why would it matter
Because the RS config is different
Check that, I think it'll be the opposite
Absolute config when you're not sure
wait lemme check RS
uhm u can think like this that in the explatation given it is that in cis try to think as 3d
the wedge is atom towards u and dash is away so its either both towards u or both away so thts one compound and
in trans there are right left atleration of wedge and dash so two differnt compounds
im sure u know about chiral and non chiral the whole mirroring thingy so think using that
i forgot how to conver it to that form where we apply CIP rule 💀
can u explain
I'll take the first trans compound to explain.
Priority order is O > C-O > CH3 > H
Anticlockwise, and H is on away bond so S
wait am asking how did u decide where to place which compound
Mass order
most massive at top then right then bottom then left?
so in the trans one...first is S,S And second is R,R right
and cis will have R,s and S,R
ye
They're enantiomers
ye but like
in both methyl group out of plane its basically the same thing if one methyl is above plane and other is below plane
its symmetric
thats my doubt
It is mirror image
If a compound has no plane of symmetry, and u take a mirror image they're diff
But their properties are the exact same
@Gamertug u got this or not?
+solved @sans
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