Universal Blue•8mo ago

uCore countme thread

j0rgeOP•5/23/25, 5:12 PM

@antheas @bsherman @M2 Hey so there's a lot of coreos in this upstream chart:

j0rgeOP•5/23/25, 5:13 PM

j0rgeOP•5/23/25, 5:14 PM

that's the pink line, it's more than fedora server and us. I think we should get ucore sorted out on countme if we can.

bsherman•5/23/25, 5:18 PM

this is the issue https://github.com/ublue-os/ucore/issues/202

GitHub

Monitor usage in Fedora's CountMe metrics · Issue #202 · ublue-os...

Our machines are pushing metrics to Fedora's servers. Bluefin, Aurora and Bazzite are being recorded as separate distros, however I believe UCore is counted under CoreOS. It would be awesome to...

j0rgeOP•5/23/25, 6:08 PM

@Lorbus your skillset would be useful here.

bsherman•5/23/25, 6:44 PM

i think we have examples in bluefin/bazzite... per the issue... i just never dove into it

j0rgeOP•5/23/25, 7:48 PM

who was the other person doing charts, 4 digit number as a nick

4730•5/23/25, 8:41 PM

Maybe me?

4730•5/23/25, 8:47 PM

I really do have a talent for bad and/or non memorable nicknames

James•5/23/25, 8:49 PM

@Niko

44730 I really do have a talent for bad and/or non memorable nicknames

j0rgeOP•5/23/25, 9:28 PM

haha yes!

j0rgeOP•5/23/25, 9:28 PM

we just need to figure out what os-release changes to make, but we have to account for announcing because apparently people use sysexts?

Jj0rge we just need to figure out what os-release changes to make, but we have to accou...

bsherman•5/23/25, 9:34 PM

yeah, i have added announcements to the repo README

but that's usually not until something is actually done, not ahead of time

bsherman•5/23/25, 9:35 PM

and i can probably pick it up this weekend... i just haven't spent the time to follow what bluefin/bazzite do

j0rgeOP•5/23/25, 9:35 PM

I think we'll just be setting the os-release, wait a few weeks for it to start showing up in the stats

Lorbus•5/24/25, 8:28 AM

yeah that seems like the right path forward. Not sure about the sysext stuff, haven't used any of that yet. If they are id-specific, they'll likely break. Maybe they can be changed to allow for multiple IDs?

M2•5/24/25, 10:13 AM

Travier used to have them be any. But he changed it to be fedora.

Lorbus•5/24/25, 11:02 AM

Yeah I think that's to distinguish between sysexts for servers and desktops, maybe it can just be

CoreOS || uCore

CoreOS || uCore

for the server ones?

M2•5/24/25, 1:40 PM

It's the ID that we need to change for countme and that's coded to fedora for travier.

M2•5/24/25, 1:41 PM

Actually could probably just change variant or something else

bsherman•5/24/25, 1:41 PM

I think we have an “ID_LIKE” key in os-release on universal blue desktops, we could suggest support for that in travier’s repo, or does that need to be upstream change?

M2•5/24/25, 1:54 PM

Actually, I'm thinking we may be able to do this without changing ID. Keeping compat with sysexts

bsherman•5/24/25, 2:10 PM

Ok? But it would still allow uCore to differentiate in countme?

bsherman•5/24/25, 2:11 PM

Things get even trickier if we start thinking about a CentOS based uCore too LOL

M2•5/24/25, 3:11 PM

so I believe fedora normally differentiates with variant_id

M2•5/24/25, 3:11 PM

since everything uses ID=fedora

bsherman•5/24/25, 4:10 PM

so... are aurora/bluefin/bazzite changing countme incorrectly?

I thought it was intentional to avoid using their trademark perhaps?

M2•5/24/25, 4:19 PM

that might be....

Lorbus•5/24/25, 4:28 PM

I don't think shipping ID=fedora infringes on their TM tbh

Lorbus•5/24/25, 4:29 PM

fedora references are literally everywhere in Bluefin

Lorbus•5/24/25, 4:29 PM

because that's where most of the packages come from

Lorbus•5/24/25, 4:29 PM

but IANAL

Lorbus•5/24/25, 4:30 PM

so far, neither Red Hat nor Fedora have sued anyone for fair use of their stuff

M2•5/24/25, 4:42 PM

yeah there is a ton of stuff that is fundamentally fedora that we would never be able to move away from if using fedora as a base

Bbsherman so... are aurora/bluefin/bazzite changing countme incorrectly? I thought it w...

antheas•5/24/25, 4:47 PM

It was intentional to get other counting services to differentiate us

LLorbus I don't think shipping ID=fedora infringes on their TM tbh

bsherman•5/24/25, 5:00 PM

I was correct it was intentional, incorrect about why

Lorbus•5/24/25, 5:01 PM

makes sense

so we need to figure out how to have our own ID and still be able to use @Timothée Ravier 's sysexts with uBlue OSes

Niko•5/25/25, 12:52 AM

if the only goal is to be able to count in countme, variant would be fine

Niko•5/25/25, 12:58 AM

we get both columns -

week_start,week_end,hits,os_name,os_version,os_variant

week_start,week_end,hits,os_name,os_version,os_variant

so it's

2025-04-28,2025-05-04,223,Bazzite,42,bazzite-gnome

2025-04-28,2025-05-04,223,Bazzite,42,bazzite-gnome

Niko•5/25/25, 12:59 AM

and more columns that i left out for brevity

Niko•5/25/25, 1:02 AM

hmm so if we were to switch coreOS to uCore it'd be from:

2025-04-28,2025-05-04,1986,Fedora Linux,39,coreos

2025-04-28,2025-05-04,1986,Fedora Linux,39,coreos

2025-04-28,2025-05-04,1986,Fedora Linux,39,ucore

2025-04-28,2025-05-04,1986,Fedora Linux,39,ucore

Niko•5/25/25, 1:04 AM

ah so travier must have linked it to the os_variant, because core os's os_name is Fedora Linux still FYI

Niko•5/25/25, 1:05 AM

we could switch it to:

2025-04-28,2025-05-04,1986,uCore,39,coreos

2025-04-28,2025-05-04,1986,uCore,39,coreos

so as to not break anything, but we're kinda getting into hack territory here. (keep the

os_variant: coreos

os_variant: coreos

, which sysexts are looking for, but change the

os_name

os_name

from Fedora Linux to uCore...)

Niko•5/25/25, 1:28 AM

Suggested here for prosperity https://github.com/ublue-os/ucore/issues/261

GitHub

Suggestion: change os_name to uCore · Issue #261 · ublue-os/ucore

Hi! Goal is to know how many ucore nodes are running with countme. The first few columns of countme data look like this: week_start,week_end,hits,os_name,os_version,os_variant so for bazzite: 2025-...