Domain name && seo

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NIMA
NIMAOP5mo ago
i want buy a domain name ( i cant say the name here cuse its unique name ) but already some poeple buy the .com and .ir ( its for iran domain ) is it good idea to buy the .app and .net and .online of that domain ( .app will be the main domain and other for redirecting ) ? or it will make seo problem cuse 2 website 1 if .com and other .ir and my website will get mix ? or is it ok to buy it cuse i dont want loss this domain name
ἔρως
ἔρως5mo ago
depends i can see someone saying "this one here is trying to steal our identity - please surrender the domain name to us" and the registar has to comply, depending on local laws and whatever the hell they decide to do
NIMA
NIMAOP5mo ago
im sure they cant do this cuse their website is so bad and they cant do any laws but my problem is it will make seo problem or no ? is it worth to buy that domain ? ( i need the name ! )
ἔρως
ἔρως5mo ago
they can
NIMA
NIMAOP5mo ago
they can turn of my domain ?
ἔρως
ἔρως5mo ago
worse: take over your domain by issuing copyright violations to the registar
NIMA
NIMAOP5mo ago
there is no copyrighting in my country
ἔρως
ἔρως5mo ago
doesnt matter the registar can decide to do what they want
NIMA
NIMAOP5mo ago
hmm
ἔρως
ἔρως5mo ago
you will have an hard time getting the domain and keeping it it's not worth it
NIMA
NIMAOP5mo ago
aright tnx i think i should finde another one also best domain is .com ?
ἔρως
ἔρως5mo ago
depends
NIMA
NIMAOP5mo ago
if i want good seo and be #1 in google search ? like it have more chanse ?
13eck
13eck5mo ago
If you’re doing something different then you should be fine. But this sounds like a question for a lawyer
ἔρως
ἔρως5mo ago
depends
NIMA
NIMAOP5mo ago
it same as the other website
ἔρως
ἔρως5mo ago
usually, yes, but registars are sleazeballs
13eck
13eck5mo ago
If it’s the same product/service then it depends on how litigious the other company is Depends on the register, but yes
ἔρως
ἔρως5mo ago
it's too much risk, in my opinion
NIMA
NIMAOP5mo ago
Ok but in total wich domain i should buy .app , .com .net .ir im not sure wich one betther
13eck
13eck5mo ago
None is “better”. It’s relative. Now a days most people don’t think twice about a non-.com TLD. What’s more snazzy/on-brand for your product/service? That’s the important bit. Most users don’t know that TLDs actually mean something
NIMA
NIMAOP5mo ago
so you mean i should get the .com right ?
13eck
13eck5mo ago
.com is the generic commercial entity. But .app is more specific to an application—usually a webapp. .net is a network, while .ir just means you’re located in Iran
NIMA
NIMAOP5mo ago
i think .ir is best chooise cuse my website be only for iran
13eck
13eck5mo ago
That sounds like a very good reason to pick it
NIMA
NIMAOP5mo ago
ok i change my domain name and i find a good name for my website but problem is i buy the .ir should i buy the .com too ( 200$ ) so no one buy it if my website groth ? cuse i scard someone buy it and copy my website ?
ἔρως
ἔρως5mo ago
you would have to buy a ton of domains to prevent that, and you dont have that kind of money
NIMA
NIMAOP5mo ago
so u mean i should buy all .net .app and .... ? it is worth it or no ? do u think is there a chanse someone do it and copy my website with other domain ?🤔
ἔρως
ἔρως5mo ago
no i am saying that even if you buy all, someone will find a way and you cant afford to buy it all anyways
Rägnar O'ock
Rägnar O'ock5mo ago
there's 1502 top level domains, some are next to free, some cost several thousand dollars a year, some are not for sale. then comes the issue of copy cat domains, with just one or two letter changes if you wanted to be absolutly sure no one can impersonate your website you would need the GDP of a small developing country just to buy and maintain those domains... so don't think too much about it and take action if and when someone tries to impersonate you instead as for the SEO aspect, it's a big "it depends" search engines don't like domain redirections too much, but if you have a domain.app for you webapp that is not referenced and only accessible via a link on your domain.ir or domain.com website then it should not cause any issue what might cause problems is using both .ir and .com for your website. Theorically it should be ok to use them for localisation, .com for the english version and .ir for the iranian version. But that will break a lot of stuff like authentication and caching for users that might switch from one to the other.
NIMA
NIMAOP5mo ago
my website will be only in persian so i think i should stop buy other domain and focos on ir
Rägnar O'ock
Rägnar O'ock5mo ago
and .com domains are rather expensive as domain goes, so you should probably just get the .ir one and worry about the .com one when you actually need it for something (which I bet you will never have to) and even if you had localization, it's better to do it at the path level domain.ir/en/stuff than at the domain level domain.com/stuff
NIMA
NIMAOP5mo ago
and if my domain get a good seo and someone buy the other domain its hard to reach my domain right ? in google search
Rägnar O'ock
Rägnar O'ock5mo ago
what do you mean ?
NIMA
NIMAOP5mo ago
like my website is #1 in google search someone buy the .com and start the website its hard to get the #2 or #1 ? ( both same name only diffrent .ir and .com )
Rägnar O'ock
Rägnar O'ock5mo ago
that will depend on so many other factors that I can't tell you either way
NIMA
NIMAOP5mo ago
tnx for the info and help ❤️
ἔρως
ἔρως5mo ago
dont forget punycode domains, which can use cyrilic letters and other utf8 characters
Rägnar O'ock
Rägnar O'ock5mo ago
I didn't, I was just too lazy to include them (and technically that stlli counts as copy cat / off by a letter or two)
ἔρως
ἔρως5mo ago
it does, but is used a lot
Rägnar O'ock
Rägnar O'ock5mo ago
damn... you sent me down the SEO rabit hole of my own domains xD
NIMA
NIMAOP5mo ago
its full english
Rägnar O'ock
Rägnar O'ock5mo ago
What Epyc's saying is that others can register domains that look exactly like yours by using non latin alphabet characters that look like latin alphabet characters.
ἔρως
ἔρως5mo ago
yup еаІ eaI
Rägnar O'ock
Rägnar O'ock5mo ago
Like if you have an "a" in your domain, there's a cyrillic character that looks just like it. So the domain would look the same but would be different. It's a technique usually used by scam website to have a URL that looks like the website they're impersonating
ἔρως
ἔρως5mo ago
left: cyrilic right: latin i wrote lowercase e, lowercase a, uppercase i the only difference is the spacing, but you wont notice it in an url so, to absolutely prevent any url like your, from everybody, you will have to buy all permutations of these substitutions for all tlds there isnt enough money in the world for that
vince
vince5mo ago
As long as your content is fresher / more visited than the other domains than it'll probably rank higher (assuming these are just small portfolio sites) For example, I had my domain vincewebdesigns.com, there was another domain / site that was vincewebdesign.com (that looks like it was made in the early 2000s) It took a few months but it ranks first now when typing in 'vince web design/s'
ἔρως
ἔρως5mo ago
unless the other is very invested in ruining you, then that mystical "they" can pay for adsense or adwords or whatever it is so, it will rank higher google finally learned to shut that down for some things like vlc and obs, because lots of people got their pcs infected with virus from fake sites, paid the same way
Mortal
Mortal5mo ago
This thread has a lot of misinformation, and misunderstandings about intellectual property law. The best thing you can do is register a trademark in countries you operate in and consult with a IP attorney.
ἔρως
ἔρως5mo ago
you forgot the part where he is in a country without copyright yes, those exist also, registars can still do whatever they want they may be fined, but who's going to open a complain to icann?
Mortal
Mortal5mo ago
There are some misunderstandings here about intellectual property law. I strongly recommend consulting an attorney. UDRP takedowns through ICANN are specifically for trademark violations. Copyright takedowns, on the other hand, only apply in very rare cases where website content is stolen such as logos, media, or software.
ἔρως
ἔρως5mo ago
that is very us-centric he's not in usa
Mortal
Mortal5mo ago
ICANN is a US organization so ICANN's policies as a whole are very US-centric. I am not an IP attorney but I studied business law in the US for years in university. I'm happy to steer you in the right direction if you would like to consult with an IP attorney.
ἔρως
ἔρως5mo ago
that sounds like solicitation to get a consultation that is against the #📝rules - specifically #7 im not saying it is solicitation, but it meows like one
Mortal
Mortal5mo ago
Respectfully I didn't solicit you, I'm not here to argue. I'm just saying don't spread misinformation.
ἔρως
ἔρως5mo ago
and yes, you are right, but that's not his concert if it was about the us, maybe some european countries, i would agree with you but it's not and i didnt say you solicited me: but said that it dues meows like a duck his concerns can be resumed to this: - abc.com exists, he wants abc.ir - is that ok for seo? - is having xyz.ir bad for seo? - should he buy xyz.com too?
Kevin Powell
Kevin Powell5mo ago
The main thing I'd worry about is if there is an existing .com (or whatever) that is the same or similar, and it is the same field, you'll have an issue. If it's not the same field, it probably will never matter. kevinpowell.com used to be a use car salesman (not it redirects to a ford dealership), kevinpowell.net is an author and activist (who's website is very broken). I was fine going with kevinpowell.co - but I probably wouldn't have taken it if I was in a different field, and I'm sure some people still go to .com instead of .co, but whatever. I'm not worried about SEO, because I'm worried about CSS results, not people looking up my name (and if they are looking for me, they often write kevin powell css, in which case, I should easily be the first result). domain name is such a small part of SEO. Quality links and content are so much more important, and SEO is probably less important now than ever anyway

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