iirc i think it is yeah, reverse engineering code even clean room isnt really considered legal, as y

iirc i think it is yeah, reverse engineering code even clean room isnt really considered legal, as you dont own rights to said software to do so, but im no legal expert, ive just heard stories of people being arrested for this

Supine•2/22/22, 5:08 PM

Company gave you assembly.

Supine•2/22/22, 5:08 PM

It's your choice to run it, or read it.

Perksey•2/22/22, 5:09 PM

reading assembly is fine

Perksey•2/22/22, 5:09 PM

but in almost every case you don't have a license to transform it

Perksey•2/22/22, 5:10 PM

so you don't have a license to turn IL to C# (unless you do obviously, as is the case for open source)

Perksey•2/22/22, 5:10 PM

etc

ChickenSystems•2/22/22, 10:51 PM

Nobody even has to read assembly with (like probably 2009 and up) tools.

ChickenSystems•2/22/22, 10:52 PM

IDA and Ghidra can both decompile (not just disassemble) binaries of nearly all flavor.

ChickenSystems•2/22/22, 10:54 PM

C/C++ vs C# for RE protection is largely just people squabbling over semantics in my opinion (as someone who did a ton of old Xbox/Xbox 360 RE and has experience in other RE projects).

LLyris the Kitori iirc i think it is yeah, reverse engineering code even clean room isnt really co...

ChickenSystems•2/22/22, 10:56 PM

Clean room is explicitly legal in most places. ReactOS and Wine would have been squashed by Microsoft had any part of their operations been illegal. :)

Lyris the KitoriOP•2/22/22, 10:57 PM

keyword most

Lyris the KitoriOP•2/22/22, 10:57 PM

i meant some countries

Lyris the KitoriOP•2/22/22, 10:57 PM

as said in my first message

ChickenSystems•2/22/22, 11:01 PM

I guess some random country might present a legal issue.

ChickenSystems•2/22/22, 11:01 PM

But we are all likely outside their jurisdiction. :))

ChickenSystems•2/22/22, 11:02 PM

So long as you do not distribute their code in any form, only send patches or use clean room documentation you are pretty much clear. Your own patches are your own IP.

PPerksey you shouldn't care about your game being turned back to source. anyone passionat...

Hanprogramer•2/23/22, 2:34 AM

True. Which is why i'm using C# even though I know it's super easily decompiled or even turned back to source

Supine•2/23/22, 10:18 AM

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Perksey•2/23/22, 10:20 AM

yes it's not published yet

Perksey•2/23/22, 10:20 AM

you have to build it yourself for now

Redhacker2•2/24/22, 4:25 PM

Redhacker2•2/24/22, 4:25 PM

it aint pretty but this is my current work on reading material data from ASSIMP

Supine•2/24/22, 4:53 PM

Console.WriteLine

Console.WriteLine

is slow

Supine•2/25/22, 5:58 AM

How much PGO adds performance?

ChickenSystems•2/25/22, 6:19 AM

Depends heavily on the workload.

ChickenSystems•2/25/22, 6:19 AM

What are you doing with it right now?

Supine•2/25/22, 6:36 AM

Vulkan

Supine•2/25/22, 6:36 AM

And is set globally

ChickenSystems•2/25/22, 7:54 AM

Rendering a single triangle in a loop is not really going to be helped by PGO much.

ChickenSystems•2/25/22, 7:54 AM

So just using Vulkan is not really enough information. :)

TechPizza•2/25/22, 12:32 PM

PGO is more for object-oriented parts of c# programming

Perksey•2/25/22, 12:33 PM

very helpful with s

TechPizza•2/25/22, 12:34 PM

yeah increasing devirtualization and such,
but it can help in not spending too much JIT time on cold paths and spending more time on hot paths

TechPizza•2/25/22, 12:34 PM

reordering branches was interesting as well

Supine•2/25/22, 4:36 PM

Rate https://github.com/SupinePandora43/TechDemo

Perksey•2/25/22, 4:36 PM

i don't think there's a lot of people who would do that for free

Lyris the KitoriOP•2/25/22, 4:37 PM

bad commit names, 0/10

Perksey•2/25/22, 4:37 PM

i mean... my commit names aren't any better lol

Lyris the KitoriOP•2/25/22, 4:38 PM

i saw the SerenityOS commit structure and ive been hooked with writing actually good commit messages ever since https://i.beyleyisnot.moe/RFtcckc.png

Perksey•2/25/22, 4:38 PM

thargy had a good commit structure as well

Perksey•2/25/22, 4:39 PM

https://github.com/dotnet/Silk.NET/pull/706/commits

Lyris the KitoriOP•2/25/22, 4:40 PM

look at that: useful names
https://i.beyleyisnot.moe/tyiu4Hs.png

Lyris the KitoriOP•2/25/22, 4:40 PM

i put the commit guidelines in the contributing.md

Lyris the KitoriOP•2/25/22, 4:40 PM

so that everyone has to follow them

Perksey•2/25/22, 4:40 PM

it doesn't matter for silk because we squash anyway, so it just ends up being whatever the PR title is

Lyris the KitoriOP•2/25/22, 4:41 PM

im too lazy to PR in constantly for my personal projects so i commit everything directly to master so like all my projects have a TON of commits

Lyris the KitoriOP•2/25/22, 4:41 PM

i also make sure all my commits are small and relavent, so i try to avoid commits like "rewrite everything"

Perksey•2/25/22, 4:42 PM

in the early days of silk we committed straight to master and just merged everything

Perksey•2/25/22, 4:42 PM

these days us maintainers don't even have permission to main unless we really want to

Lyris the KitoriOP•2/25/22, 4:44 PM

i would try to get eevee to disable pushing to main on our engine but i dont think they would really wanna go through the effort of PRing everything, seeing as they already dont really care for the commit guidelines