Something like Veldrid that let you get to the raw silk API bindings if you wanted would be pretty c

Something like Veldrid that let you get to the raw silk API bindings if you wanted would be pretty cool. Forking/porting Veldrid kind of feels rude to me though.

Ddfkeenan🍍🍕Something like Veldrid that let you get to the raw silk API bindings if you want...

Supine•2/26/22, 7:33 AM

@techpizza 's fork :P

dfkeenan🍍🍕OP•2/26/22, 7:34 AM

Yeah, i know. But they only did vulkan bit right?

Supine•2/26/22, 7:34 AM

Idk

Supine•2/26/22, 7:34 AM

I work on vulkan startup utilities for SilkNet

dfkeenan🍍🍕OP•2/26/22, 7:37 AM

i had a look around the d3d backend it is using vortice

dfkeenan🍍🍕OP•2/26/22, 7:40 AM

hmm, i am looking in master vulkan using terrafx

dfkeenan🍍🍕OP•2/26/22, 7:40 AM

maybe silk stuff in a diff branch

dfkeenan🍍🍕OP•2/26/22, 7:42 AM

i can't see silk.net anywhere. maybe they changed their mind??

dfkeenan🍍🍕OP•2/26/22, 8:36 AM

hmm, vs2022 has some problems

dfkeenan🍍🍕OP•2/26/22, 8:37 AM

Add new class did this. D:

SSupine `Console.WriteLine` is slow

Redhacker2•2/26/22, 10:16 AM

Oh meant to reply to this, yes it is slow, meant more for debugging purposes right now than actual use

Redhacker2•2/26/22, 10:17 AM

I am verifying the outputs make actual sense instead of like 1.07686E39 or something that implies I fucked up actually reading the data

Redhacker2•2/26/22, 10:18 AM

also so is using

string.Contains()

string.Contains()

everywhere

Supine•2/26/22, 10:21 AM

From my experience 1.0463829es aren't fucked up values

Redhacker2•2/26/22, 10:22 AM

read the value I sent again

Redhacker2•2/26/22, 10:22 AM

1.07686E39

Redhacker2•2/26/22, 10:22 AM

or something like that is what I ended up getting at one point

Redhacker2•2/26/22, 10:23 AM

which is 1.07686*10^39

Redhacker2•2/26/22, 10:23 AM

it was obviously incorrect when wanting a normalized value between zero and one for color....

Redhacker2•2/26/22, 10:25 AM

Should be fixed now with me using the assimp Querying APIs directly as fiddling with pointers is still something I am not good at :p

Redhacker2•2/26/22, 10:27 AM

also, considering the model I am loading takes 30 seconds to a minute for ASSIMP native code to process directly, it is by far not the slowest thing in this ugly monster of a 250 line long function of crust

Redhacker2•2/26/22, 10:28 AM

This mess totally needs cleaned up

Supine•2/26/22, 10:38 AM

@redhacker2 how many polygons?

Redhacker2•2/26/22, 10:38 AM

Uhh well it is the Bistro outdoor scene

Redhacker2•2/26/22, 10:38 AM

Redhacker2•2/26/22, 10:46 AM

The point is I am working more on getting it running at all, then I will clean it up and remove some of the messy and slow stuff

dfkeenan🍍🍕OP•2/26/22, 11:21 AM

That "add class" issue I mention has been reported multiple times. Apparently fixed in some upcoming update.

Ddfkeenan🍍🍕Yeah, i know. But they only did vulkan bit right?

TechPizza•2/26/22, 11:26 AM

i moved the vulkan backend to terrafx.interop.vulkan and now it works on android

TechPizza•2/26/22, 11:27 AM

i also improved opengl buffer mapping and reduced overhead for enqueing work

TechPizza•2/26/22, 11:27 AM

and i plan to add dx12 some time in the future (i don't have free time at the moment)

TTechPizza i moved the vulkan backend to terrafx.interop.vulkan and now it works on android

Supine•2/26/22, 11:28 AM

Why?

Supine•2/26/22, 11:29 AM

To your possible answer "android support": shouldn't silknet work on android too?

TechPizza•2/26/22, 11:31 AM

it did, but i was not satisfied with having to pass a Vk instance around everywhere

TechPizza•2/26/22, 11:31 AM

or that types were not prefixed with Vk

TTechPizza i moved the vulkan backend to terrafx.interop.vulkan and now it works on android

dfkeenan🍍🍕OP•2/26/22, 11:35 AM

Perksey•2/26/22, 1:12 PM

I do get a little salty when people complain about types not starting with Vk

Perksey•2/26/22, 1:13 PM

primarily because this is exactly what namespaces are for

Perksey•2/26/22, 1:13 PM

Use the language properly.

Perksey•2/26/22, 1:13 PM

That being said, it’ll probably change in 3.0

dfkeenan🍍🍕OP•2/26/22, 1:29 PM

all the vulkan implementation classes in veldrid are prefixed with Vk and some have name clashes with the vulkan bindings it uses. so if i was going to port "all" of veldrid to silk I would probably prefer the silk types weren't prefixed.

Redhacker2•2/26/22, 1:31 PM

yeah

Redhacker2•2/26/22, 1:31 PM

Kinda with him on that front

Redhacker2•2/26/22, 1:32 PM

the passing around a VK instance around everywhere I could see as being slightly annoying though

Redhacker2•2/26/22, 1:32 PM

but not sure how else you would do it either

Lyris the Kitori•2/26/22, 1:33 PM

if you wanna be kinda unclean you could static import a class everywhere

Redhacker2•2/26/22, 1:33 PM

i.. eww

dfkeenan🍍🍕OP•2/26/22, 1:33 PM

i had a look around the code base, everything keeps a ref to the "graphics device" which has the VkInstance as a member.

Ddfkeenan🍍🍕i had a look around the code base, everything keeps a ref to the "graphics devic...

Redhacker2•2/26/22, 1:33 PM

kinda how I figured they would

Ddfkeenan🍍🍕i had a look around the code base, everything keeps a ref to the "graphics devic...

TechPizza•2/26/22, 1:33 PM

ah yes. _gd.Vk.callwhatever, no thanks

TTechPizza ah yes. _gd.Vk.callwhatever, no thanks

Redhacker2•2/26/22, 1:35 PM

I mean... you have to have some form of class to access it, you could I guess wrap the instance into a static class that would hide the API instance I guess?