Question about the Vulkan APIs. Many of the capability queries are performed by first asking how man

Question about the Vulkan APIs. Many of the capability queries are performed by first asking how many things there are, and then stackallocing a span, and asking for the things. Silk.NET is rather 1:1, but does there happen to be helpers for those cases? Or any other helpers like the Chains?

Supine•5/21/22, 8:25 AM

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Kai•5/21/22, 8:32 AM

For the queries there isn't right now, because there is no way to return stackalloced memory, and we don't want performance to suffer.
There are chain helpers though, they are behind <RootStructure>. Chain<RootStructure>. Chain see https://github.com/dotnet/Silk.NET/tree/main/documentation%2Fstructure-chaining for details.

VazdeOP•5/21/22, 8:55 AM

Okay, thanks. I kinda remembered the same thing after asking. Of the chains I knew of, hence why I mentioned them. But does there happen to be any other helpers beside them? I don't have the need for them, but would be nice to be aware of what's available, while I'm learning about Vulkan in general.

Kai•5/21/22, 8:58 AM

I guess extensions are also neatly packaged into classes, other then that we don't have anything quite that high level.
Feel free to post ideas / problems / whatever here https://github.com/dotnet/Silk.NET/issues/887

GitHub

Tracking Issue for Bindings Generation & Improvements · Issue #887 ...

TODO We truly invite everyone to send us reports of any place where our bindings are not ideal. This issue will serve as a list of things we should fix in 3.0.

VazdeOP•5/21/22, 9:04 AM

I'll try if I get any ideas :) I wasn't really expecting there to be anything too high-level, but the chains were a welcome surprise, so wanted to make sure I hadn't missed anything else.

Kai•5/21/22, 9:43 AM

The chains were an amazing contribution, I'm hoping to build more things like them into 3.0

Lyris the Kitori•5/22/22, 5:53 PM

not directly silk related, but how would i get a DllImportDllImport asking for d3d11.dlld3d11.dll to pick up a native linux library version? ive tried naming the file libd3d11.dll.solibd3d11.dll.so d3d11.sod3d11.so libd3d11.solibd3d11.so d3d11.dlld3d11.dll and it always just says "failed to find native library 'd3d11.dll'

Lyris the Kitori•5/22/22, 5:53 PM

LLyris the Kitori not directly silk related, but how would i get a `DllImport` asking for `d3d11.d...

Perksey•5/22/22, 5:54 PM

just do d3d11d3d11

Perksey•5/22/22, 5:54 PM

as the import name

Lyris the Kitori•5/22/22, 5:54 PM

ill have to figure out how to compile vortice from source on linux then

Lyris the Kitori•5/22/22, 5:54 PM

hmm

Perksey•5/22/22, 5:55 PM

alternatively you can do a

NativeLibrary

NativeLibrary

hook

Lyris the Kitori•5/22/22, 5:55 PM

how would i go about doing that?

Lyris the Kitori•5/22/22, 5:56 PM

NativeLibrary

NativeLibrary

doesnt seem to be a class anywhere, atleast rider isnt picking it up

Perksey•5/22/22, 5:56 PM

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.runtime.interopservices.nativelibrary

NativeLibrary Class (System.Runtime.InteropServices)

Provides APIs for managing native libraries.

Lyris the Kitori•5/22/22, 5:56 PM

ah its core only, so i need to put this code somewhere else

Perksey•5/22/22, 5:57 PM

yep

Perksey•5/22/22, 5:57 PM

though at this point i don't think there's any point targeting under 6 imho

Lyris the Kitori•5/22/22, 5:57 PM

we just do netstandard 2.1 just incase someone needs framework support

Perksey•5/22/22, 5:57 PM

lol

Lyris the Kitori•5/22/22, 5:58 PM

it does mean we can run our engine on vista though

Lyris the Kitori•5/22/22, 5:58 PM

which is

Lyris the Kitori•5/22/22, 5:58 PM

cool i guess

Perksey•5/22/22, 5:58 PM

sure

Lyris the Kitori•5/22/22, 5:58 PM

this? https://i.beyleyisnot.moe/qTTGgN0.png

Perksey•5/22/22, 5:59 PM

yep

Lyris the Kitori•5/22/22, 6:00 PM

so i need to do something to get an intptr, im guess that would be dlopen on linux

Volte•5/22/22, 6:00 PM

Perksey#6579

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.runtime.interopservices.nativelibrary

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LLyris the Kitori we just do netstandard 2.1 just incase someone *needs* framework support

Redhacker2•5/22/22, 6:00 PM

I could have swore framework only supported 2.0

Perksey•5/22/22, 6:00 PM

this is true

Lyris the Kitori•5/22/22, 6:00 PM

oh im on 2.0 then

Lyris the Kitori•5/22/22, 6:01 PM

misremembered

Lyris the Kitori•5/22/22, 6:01 PM

2.0 is the one that goes back to 4.6.1

Lyris the Kitori•5/22/22, 6:18 PM

wh
what https://i.beyleyisnot.moe/Nl7Vqig.png

Lyris the Kitori•5/22/22, 6:21 PM

you dont say? https://i.beyleyisnot.moe/udDKNss.png

Lyris the Kitori•5/22/22, 6:23 PM

this is all inside of a try catch too

Aqua•5/22/22, 6:25 PM

i don't think try catch catches CLR errors
i've never had any successfully catch any CLR errors lol

Lyris the Kitori•5/22/22, 6:26 PM

weird that the error is at a return though

Perksey•5/22/22, 6:26 PM

in any case i'm sure there are plentiful resources for vortice support

Lyris the Kitori•5/22/22, 6:29 PM

surprisingly i cant really find anything other then github issues, so i guess ill open one there

Aqua•5/22/22, 6:30 PM

wouldn't the error be caused by the fact that you are trying to run DX on linux?
or are you using DXVK or something like that

Aqua•5/22/22, 6:30 PM

orrrr am i misunderstanding what you're trying to do

Lyris the Kitori•5/22/22, 6:30 PM

DXVK-native

Aqua•5/22/22, 6:30 PM

i see

Lyris the Kitori•5/22/22, 6:31 PM

its why i needed to do a nativelibrary hook, to redirect vortices import of d3d11.dll to /usr/lib/libd3d11.so

Opcode_•5/22/22, 11:07 PM

Hi all, I'm looking to do some C# development with OpenXR and found the Silk.NET library as a convenient way to get started with this. However, I'm having some trouble finding good documentation for getting started with it. The pages at https://dotnet.github.io/Silk.NET/docs/ are basically just placeholders at this point in time. Can anyone point me in the right direction maybe with some examples as well? My eventual goal is just to use this app to drive various OpenXR haptic devices, so I don't really need a renderer or window

Silk.NET - High-Speed & Advanced .NET Graphics & Compute

Documentation

OOpcode_Hi all, I'm looking to do some C# development with OpenXR and found the Silk.NET...

Lyris the Kitori•5/22/22, 11:52 PM

it should work about the same as using OpenXR in C, so look for C docs

Lyris the Kitori•5/22/22, 11:52 PM

you can get the OpenXR API using XR.GetApiXR.GetApi i believe

Opcode_•5/23/22, 12:05 AM

okay, so basically it should be pretty 1 to 1 with the OpenXR api spec, just in C#

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