2 years ago or so when I started, it was a bit more painful, requiring some DLL overrides, modifying

2 years ago or so when I started, it was a bit more painful, requiring some DLL overrides, modifying some DCS LUAs for some patches etc. I have spent more time than I'd like to imagine debugging it but anything to avoid windows lolshiba

TheZoq2OP•7/16/22, 8:00 AM

https://github.com/thezoq2/dcs_on_linux

GitHub

GitHub - TheZoq2/dcs_on_linux: Instructions for running DCS World o...

Instructions for running DCS World on linux. Mostly extracted from https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/1722 - GitHub - TheZoq2/dcs_on_linux: Instructions for running DCS World on linux. ...

TheZoq2OP•7/16/22, 8:00 AM

That document is probably a bit out of date, not all steps are required anymore. The biggest remaining issues are some graphical glitches with smoke trails, some textures and such

TheZoq2OP•7/16/22, 8:00 AM

It even runs in VR :)

Deleted User•7/16/22, 8:01 AM

Whew! Now i only need to get good at making most pf my steam games run on linux and then i can finally make the switch forever

TheZoq2OP•7/16/22, 8:01 AM

TTheZoq2 That document is probably a bit out of date, not all steps are required anymore....

Deleted User•7/16/22, 8:01 AM

Any idea what could be causing that?

Deleted User•7/16/22, 8:02 AM

Or is that just the pain of building with windows dependencies

TheZoq2OP•7/16/22, 8:04 AM

The smoke trails seem to be related to tesselation, which I guess doesn't work the way DCS expects it to in wine. (The smoke trails are puffs at evenly spaced points rather than nice thick trails). The textures seem to be related to DCS using some encoding for some textures that isn't supported by wine. For most of the textures, you can open them up in gimp and just re-export them without changing anything.

The biggest problem is a similar bug on marianas which makes the ground pitch black. I think it might be related, but it seems like the textures for that map are compresed and/or encrypted so I haven't found a way to re-export them

Deleted User•7/16/22, 8:07 AM

Ah shit, maybe (however i doupt they'll care) we could bug them enough to fix that
But i doupt theyll care about just a few non-windows guys trying to play on whats simply just a better system than broken-windows

TheZoq2OP•7/16/22, 8:07 AM

Yeah, I've tried to get them interested in linux issues in the past with little success :D

TTheZoq2 Yeah, I've tried to get them interested in linux issues in the past with little ...

walmis•7/16/22, 8:13 AM

I've run DCS in wine with FFB a few years back, but something broke in FFB implementation in Wine recently.
fedit.exe also used to work, but now doesn't work anymore in Wine.

walmis•7/16/22, 8:13 AM

I do all my development in Linux btw

walmis•7/16/22, 8:15 AM

Linux ffb utilities do work however

walmis•7/16/22, 8:16 AM

WheelTest seems to work in Wine

walmis•7/16/22, 8:16 AM

TheZoq2OP•7/16/22, 8:22 AM

Ohh that's awesome!

roller25.•7/16/22, 10:39 AM

I made a post in the Hornet wishlist DCS forum about adding effects to the Hornet if any of you guys want to jump on the bandwagon..

Vulkan•7/16/22, 10:46 AM

Sounds like a good idea, how many bumps do the other ideas have?

WhereNoLarkFlew•7/16/22, 1:54 PM

For those that have used the system, is the 9 Nm strong enough force? Is that overkill? Could you use more/want to use more?

WWhereNoLarkFlew For those that have used the system, is the 9 Nm strong enough force? Is that ov...

Vulkan•7/16/22, 3:12 PM

9 is higher the almost every stick I know of

Flashgod_VR•7/16/22, 3:59 PM

you can also turn it down on the fly, if it's to much for you...

Flashgod_VR•7/16/22, 4:26 PM

@Roller25 maybe it's better to be more specific in your thread on the DCS forum. call the feature "FFB offset from center" and maybe provide some real world info and reference like "in the way like it's done in the F5E, A-10 and F-14... etc."

AndyHill•7/16/22, 6:13 PM

is there a link to the thread?

AndyHill•7/16/22, 6:13 PM

My roughish measurements on my VKB GF3 give me about 35N at 0.28m as the very maximum

AndyHill•7/16/22, 6:13 PM

that's roughly in the ballpark

AndyHill•7/16/22, 6:14 PM

for me that's easily enough for anything, but if you're looking for realistic amounts of resistance you might need more strength

AndyHill•7/16/22, 6:17 PM

so basically I haven't tried the Rhino myself, but I feel pretty confident that 9Nm would be enough for me

sliphavoc•7/16/22, 9:35 PM

@andyhill Looks like this is probably the thread: https://forum.dcs.world/topic/304852-ffb-support/

ED Forums

FFB support

Any chance we could get some force feedback effects added to the Hornet?

FFlashgod_VR @Roller25 maybe it's better to be more specific in your thread on the DCS forum....

roller25.•7/16/22, 11:19 PM

I thought about being more specific, but I thought I'd just post something brief just to get the conversation going for now...

Flashgod_VR•7/17/22, 6:34 AM

this was in 2017: https://forum.dcs.world/topic/165964-fa-18-c-force-feedback/

ED Forums

F/A-18 C Force feedback

Please can we have force feedback implemented in DCS: F/A-18C Hornet module? Thanks

roller25.•7/17/22, 6:41 AM

Maybe we should bump that thread then..??

Flashgod_VR•7/17/22, 6:48 AM

usually you need specific technical and rl SME info to tickle ED's "as realistic as possible" brain stem

Vladinsky•7/17/22, 8:21 AM

Yeah I think you'll struggle to convince ED, I know from experience just how reluctant they can be to implement unrealistic but gameplay enhancing features

roller25.•7/17/22, 9:42 AM

Force based on g load isn't unrealistic though. Its definitely not based on g at the moment. 4g at say 250kts at the moment feels much lighter than 4g at 400kts.

Flashgod_VR•7/17/22, 9:49 AM

someday, ED needs to get hands on a Rhino

Flashgod_VR•7/17/22, 9:56 AM

maybe our community here can collect a donation, to finance a Rhino base for ED. i already started with a Virpil Constellation Alpha grip so we only need a base.

roller25.•7/17/22, 9:57 AM

I'd chip in if it meant guaranteed ffb development from ED.

TTheZoq2 2 years ago or so when I started, it was a bit more painful, requiring some DLL ...

Cpt_Adhesive•7/17/22, 9:59 AM

And I thought DCS in linux is dead after my rookie attempt at making a linux distro my daily driver

Cpt_Adhesive•7/17/22, 9:59 AM

Glad to know DCS actually works for people these days!

Rroller25.I'd chip in if it meant guaranteed ffb development from ED.

Flashgod_VR•7/17/22, 10:01 AM

well, they never dropped it since 2009

Flashgod_VR•7/17/22, 10:02 AM

even the new Mirage F1 by Aerges will feature FFB

FFlashgod_VR even the new Mirage F1 by Aerges will feature FFB

roller25.•7/17/22, 10:12 AM

Seems only 3rd party developers implement it properly

Deleted User•7/17/22, 10:13 AM

well if any developer, i definitely hold Aegres up to their standard, they're pretty good at what they do
i hope the Mirage's launch will go well for them :) as next to nobody flies the C101 (except for me ofcourse)

Vladinsky•7/17/22, 10:14 AM

Does razbam do FFB? that's my only real concern

Rroller25.Seems only 3rd party developers implement it properly

Flashgod_VR•7/17/22, 10:16 AM

oh no, look at helicopters and warbirds from ED...

Vladinsky•7/17/22, 10:18 AM

Yeah I'm not aware of any incorrect ffb implementation by ED, but all I have to go by is the description of other people using it

VVladinsky Does razbam do FFB? that's my only real concern

Deleted User•7/17/22, 10:21 AM

maybe, i wouldn't count on it

Deleted User•7/17/22, 10:22 AM

i mean what does Razbam do? other than pasting GPS images on a few polygons and calling that a map we've all been waiting for...
or (insert literally anything here that didn't go well)

Vladinsky•7/17/22, 10:24 AM

They do have the best radar simulation by far

Flashgod_VR•7/17/22, 10:26 AM

yeah, and the Mirage 2000C did a big jump lately. people tend to think such undertakings are quickly done

2 years ago or so when I started, it was a bit more painful, requiring some DLL overrides, modifying

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