walmis offers a vkb adapter that plugs into the black box
walmis offers a vkb adapter that plugs into the black box
WExcuse my ignorance, but what is the black box?
VThat's what the VKB stick base plugs into
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WIt's orange in this case 
WRight. So this sends the button controls. And the rhino sends x and y? So requires 2 usb then?
VHaha yeah, I think the new plastic one is actually black?
VYou would need two USB slots yeah
WYes mine is black
WOk more questions. What belts are being used? T5? How long? Guess it depends on gearing but say 90t 15t
WRhino uses HTD5M belts with 12T/75T pulleys
WOk thank you. Assume 10mm width. What length? Depends on design I guess.
WYep 10mm, length depends on design
WDifferent question. What positional accuracy do you get with the steppers?
WThese are not steppers, but position feedback resolution is 4096 counts/rev
WThanks. Oh are these closed loop servos?
WYeah
DElectroengineering has never been my thing
WDo the drivers give out any emi?
WI have had a few issues with my motion rig.
WThey are quite clean EMI wise, I was afraid at first that motors could cause USB noise/resets but no such problems
WOk that is good to know. I'm sure they would be better than the controllers on motion rigs.
F@will3d just to add about precision, the Rhino is the most precise piece of input controller i ever had in 30 years.
Fcombined with the fully customizable behaviour with damping, friction and more, plus spring dynamics and additional effects coming in in realtime from the game... a dream 
WThanks! What game are you getting feedback from ?
Fbest is DCS. a lot of FFB support. helicopter trimming is the most useful feature. followed by positional stick trimming in cold era jets. you will also get stall shaking. in WW2 planes stick pressure...
WI heard DCS has ffb support but it’s rather aircraft dependent. Do you get any turbulence feedback?
Ffor airframe effects get a jetpad or buttkicker with simshaker for aviators: https://forum.dcs.world/topic/147495-official-simshaker-for-aviators/
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CIL2 is also quite good for FFB effects - stall shake and gun effects in every plane. It is great
P@walmis you really ought to setup some kind of pre-order status counter or something
MJust like the black box is on rl aircraft :p
Dvery black, but very boxy!
that's just the FDR, if we want to make the set complete we'll need the CVR too
that's just the FDR, if we want to make the set complete we'll need the CVR too
WSo looking at the VPforce software. What are "constant force" and "periodic effects gain" ? Or is there a manual anywhere ?
Scan someone post a video of this thing in action
SI want to see the force feedback in a ww2 plane or f14 tomcat
BI'm curious, could the rhino work as a omni-throttle for Elite Dangerous, where the X axis is just damper and the Y is spring with maybe some psudo detents for marking the halfway point?
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MTo separate different functions to avoid crosstalk between axes you want to behave differently
Pthat doesn't explain why
M, though y axis being damped and x being sprung makes more sense since a throttle moves in y.
The 'why' is because you want a throttle to stay at whatever position you leave but roll or other directional inputs you operate briefly as proportional commands benefit from having a spring nudging input back to zero.
The 'why' is because you want a throttle to stay at whatever position you leave but roll or other directional inputs you operate briefly as proportional commands benefit from having a spring nudging input back to zero.
BLike, you plan on getting 2 for a HOSAS set up?
MThe question was if x and y axis can be set to different functions on the same stick, one being damper for throttle the other a sculped spring profile for a movement axis. No mention was made of how the other 4 axes are being dealt with.
MIt's not my questions or control scheme. Maybe @bfgfreak can elaborate on the goal here
WA manual is definitely on my to-do list!
Constant force option in effects tab is an adjustable ... constant force (CF). It adds a certain amount of torque regardless of position. Useful as a counterbalance. Also there's CF in the FFB standard, which the game can send custom effects to the device by constantly changing the CF value. The master CF slider in settings adjusts such effects "volume"
Periodic effects (PE) are also in the FFB standard, these are predefined effects in the device, such as sine, square waves. The game can request the device to make vibrations with certain amplitude and frequency. The PE slider adjusts the "volume" of such effects.
Constant force option in effects tab is an adjustable ... constant force (CF). It adds a certain amount of torque regardless of position. Useful as a counterbalance. Also there's CF in the FFB standard, which the game can send custom effects to the device by constantly changing the CF value. The master CF slider in settings adjusts such effects "volume"
Periodic effects (PE) are also in the FFB standard, these are predefined effects in the device, such as sine, square waves. The game can request the device to make vibrations with certain amplitude and frequency. The PE slider adjusts the "volume" of such effects.
WI think it should be possible to configure the axes that way, just no detents functionality is implemented yet.
WOk thanks for clarifying. Probably best to actually have something on the bench to experience the different settings. Is there any “break out force” option planned? Or force curves?
WForce curves are in already, breakout force is currently in my head, need to put it in code lol
Mhello can someone tell me what the price will be. thx
