combined with the fully customizable behaviour with damping, friction and more, plus spring dynamics

combined with the fully customizable behaviour with damping, friction and more, plus spring dynamics and additional effects coming in in realtime from the game... a dream

FFlashgod_VR combined with the fully customizable behaviour with damping, friction and more, ...

Will3D•8/24/22, 7:54 AM

Thanks! What game are you getting feedback from ?

Flashgod_VROP•8/24/22, 9:56 AM

best is DCS. a lot of FFB support. helicopter trimming is the most useful feature. followed by positional stick trimming in cold era jets. you will also get stall shaking. in WW2 planes stick pressure...

Will3D•8/24/22, 9:59 AM

I heard DCS has ffb support but it’s rather aircraft dependent. Do you get any turbulence feedback?

Flashgod_VROP•8/24/22, 10:01 AM

for airframe effects get a jetpad or buttkicker with simshaker for aviators: https://forum.dcs.world/topic/147495-official-simshaker-for-aviators/

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[Official] SimShaker for Aviators

Ladies and gentlemen, I'm proud to reveal the secret project I was working on in the last weeks. I spent almost my entire free time and some days off work to push SimShaker to a new level. Thus, Andre and I can proudly announce SimShaker for Aviators. The new SSA v2 version is stable and Andre wa...

CapnFlint•8/24/22, 2:40 PM

IL2 is also quite good for FFB effects - stall shake and gun effects in every plane. It is great

Pfhoenix•8/24/22, 5:22 PM

@walmis you really ought to setup some kind of pre-order status counter or something

Wwalmis It's orange in this case 😄

mechsicko•8/24/22, 10:12 PM

Just like the black box is on rl aircraft :p

Deleted User•8/24/22, 10:14 PM

very black, but very boxy!
that's just the FDR, if we want to make the set complete we'll need the CVR too

Will3D•8/24/22, 11:49 PM

So looking at the VPforce software. What are "constant force" and "periodic effects gain" ? Or is there a manual anywhere ?

SwiftVengeance•8/24/22, 11:52 PM

can someone post a video of this thing in action

SwiftVengeance•8/24/22, 11:52 PM

I want to see the force feedback in a ww2 plane or f14 tomcat

BFGfreak•8/25/22, 1:07 AM

I'm curious, could the rhino work as a omni-throttle for Elite Dangerous, where the X axis is just damper and the Y is spring with maybe some psudo detents for marking the halfway point?

Pfhoenix•8/25/22, 1:22 AM

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

Tenor

PPfhoenix https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

mechsicko•8/25/22, 1:23 AM

To separate different functions to avoid crosstalk between axes you want to behave differently

Pfhoenix•8/25/22, 1:24 AM

that doesn't explain why

mechsicko•8/25/22, 1:26 AM

, though y axis being damped and x being sprung makes more sense since a throttle moves in y.

The 'why' is because you want a throttle to stay at whatever position you leave but roll or other directional inputs you operate briefly as proportional commands benefit from having a spring nudging input back to zero.

BAKE•8/25/22, 1:42 AM

Like, you plan on getting 2 for a HOSAS set up?

mechsicko•8/25/22, 1:48 AM

The question was if x and y axis can be set to different functions on the same stick, one being damper for throttle the other a sculped spring profile for a movement axis. No mention was made of how the other 4 axes are being dealt with.

mechsicko•8/25/22, 1:49 AM

It's not my questions or control scheme. Maybe @bfgfreak can elaborate on the goal here

WWill3D So looking at the VPforce software. What are "constant force" and "periodic effe...

walmis•8/25/22, 4:43 AM

A manual is definitely on my to-do list!

Constant force option in effects tab is an adjustable ... constant force (CF). It adds a certain amount of torque regardless of position. Useful as a counterbalance. Also there's CF in the FFB standard, which the game can send custom effects to the device by constantly changing the CF value. The master CF slider in settings adjusts such effects "volume"

Periodic effects (PE) are also in the FFB standard, these are predefined effects in the device, such as sine, square waves. The game can request the device to make vibrations with certain amplitude and frequency. The PE slider adjusts the "volume" of such effects.

BBFGfreak I'm curious, could the rhino work as a omni-throttle for Elite Dangerous, where ...

walmis•8/25/22, 4:45 AM

I think it should be possible to configure the axes that way, just no detents functionality is implemented yet.

Wwalmis A manual is definitely on my to-do list! Constant force option in effects tab ...

Will3D•8/25/22, 4:50 AM

Ok thanks for clarifying. Probably best to actually have something on the bench to experience the different settings. Is there any “break out force” option planned? Or force curves?

walmis•8/25/22, 4:52 AM

Force curves are in already, breakout force is currently in my head, need to put it in code lol

misoswan•8/25/22, 8:03 AM

hello can someone tell me what the price will be. thx

Mmisoswan hello can someone tell me what the price will be. thx

TheZoq2•8/25/22, 8:05 AM

Check #

faq

misoswan•8/25/22, 8:10 AM

not bad price thx

Mmisoswan not bad price thx

Will3D•8/25/22, 9:44 AM

Hey misoswan. Nice to see you here! How’s your rig going?

WWill3D Hey misoswan. Nice to see you here! How’s your rig going?

misoswan•8/25/22, 9:46 AM

Hi mate all works well

thx

Will3D•8/25/22, 9:48 AM

Awesome to hear! Whole new journey here.

SwiftVengeance•8/27/22, 6:09 AM

Hi, I am interested in getting this but I would like to see it in action

SwiftVengeance•8/27/22, 6:10 AM

can someone that has it make a short video of it during stall maneuvers etc.

Salter•8/27/22, 7:13 PM

Really interesting product. I'm bashing my brains with the AH-64's current trim model and standard Virpil based. And this is looking simply fantastic. The reduced work load on the pilot should be a game changer. Anyone here is flying the Apache with this beauty?

Will3D•8/27/22, 7:20 PM

Anyone have a supplier for 12.7mm bore pulleys?

SSwiftVengeance can someone that has it make a short video of it during stall maneuvers etc.

Frenchy•8/27/22, 7:24 PM

I can try tomorrow unless someone else does. TF51 okay?

WWill3D Anyone have a supplier for 12.7mm bore pulleys?

William Oakes•8/27/22, 7:26 PM

I bought 20T 15mm 12,7 mm bore from Amazon.se

William Oakes•8/27/22, 7:29 PM

https://www.amazon.com/Timing-Pulley-20Teeth-Bore-12-7mm/dp/B09YD9J2GR

1PCS HTD 5M 20T Timing Pulley 20Teeth 5M-20T Belt Pulley,Belt Width...

Material:Alloy Number of Teeth:20 Model Number:5M-20T Picth:5mm Outside Diameter:30.69mm Screw Hole:2*M4 Flange:Double Flange

FFrenchy I can try tomorrow unless someone else does. TF51 okay?

SwiftVengeance•8/27/22, 7:30 PM

Ok!

WWilliam Oakes https://www.amazon.com/Timing-Pulley-20Teeth-Bore-12-7mm/dp/B09YD9J2GR

Will3D•8/27/22, 10:47 PM

Thanks. Does it really matter the pulley is 15mm wide. Can you still run a 10mm belt, or just go to 15mm?

WWill3D Anyone have a supplier for 12.7mm bore pulleys?

Speegles•8/27/22, 11:20 PM

FYI, 12.7mm is 0.5 inches. It's those freedom units haha

SSpeegles FYI, 12.7mm is 0.5 inches. It's those freedom units haha

Will3D•8/28/22, 12:10 AM

What's that in buttons then?

Pfhoenix•8/28/22, 12:31 AM

@walmis Virpil just released their Constellation Alpha Prime grip and their new CM3 base

SSalter Really interesting product. I'm bashing my brains with the AH-64's current trim ...

C6_lefuneste•8/28/22, 7:03 AM

I used my Rhino DIY with the Apache. It's really great (even if the last beta introduce some issues with SAS)

WWill3D Thanks. Does it really matter the pulley is 15mm wide. Can you still run a 10mm ...

roller25.•8/28/22, 7:11 AM

I use 15mm belts but I'm sure 10mm is fine.. @walmis can confirm.

WWill3D Anyone have a supplier for 12.7mm bore pulleys?

walmis•8/28/22, 7:17 AM

There's plenty on AliExpess too

WWill3D Thanks. Does it really matter the pulley is 15mm wide. Can you still run a 10mm ...

walmis•8/28/22, 7:18 AM

10mm belt on 15mm is fine (that's what I use on Rhino)

PPfhoenix @walmis Virpil just released their Constellation Alpha Prime grip and their new ...

walmis•8/28/22, 7:18 AM

Nice! But still no FFB

walmis•8/28/22, 7:42 AM

Added support for multiple Rhino USB device instances in the upcoming version. Here's an FFB rudder instance for example.
Windows has a shortcoming when multiple game controllers with the same VID/PID cannot have different names in the device list. So I had to implement ability to change the USB productID.

walmis•8/28/22, 7:43 AM

ddrake1984•8/28/22, 11:13 AM

Are you going to make FFB rudders?

walmis•8/28/22, 11:25 AM

Not yet, this is more for FFB kit applications currently

combined with the fully customizable behaviour with damping, friction and more, plus spring dynamics

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