question @thezoq2 im trying to install DCS through your tutorial, but on the manual installation im

question @thezoq2 im trying to install DCS through your tutorial, but on the manual installation im not entirely sure what you mean with

Start the game once first to create the prefix, then run

<tricks command> vcrun2019 corefonts xact d3dcompiler_43

This should be all it takes to get standalone working.

you want me to run winetricks first?
or do i need to run DCS first? in wine?

Deleted UserOP•8/31/22, 5:31 PM

nvm! seems to do something different on winetricks right now

Deleted UserOP•8/31/22, 5:37 PM

oh never mind that either, it's complaining about "blabla bla space in downloads (why? i told it to install it somewhere else!) but only x mb available)

BAKE•8/31/22, 7:16 PM

@walmis
Is there a limit stick deflection option?

I want a crisp 45° for both axis. But I'm designing this about 46°-47°

Can I limit it in your software?

BBAKE @walmis Is there a limit stick deflection option? I want a crisp 45° for both ...

walmis•8/31/22, 7:17 PM

Yeah, the software endstops feature is what you're looking for.

smitty•8/31/22, 7:21 PM

@walmis the other day you posted the drawing for the 86BLF, can you post the 57BLF? im planning on a 10:1 gearbox (on a 400mm stick, 30deg total travel) and recall one user saying the shaft is kinda long on the 57

walmis•8/31/22, 7:22 PM

Sure, I'll post it tomorrow, signing out for today

DDeleted User question @thezoq2 im trying to install DCS through your tutorial, but on the man...

TheZoq2•8/31/22, 7:41 PM

You need to run it once to get a prefix, then winetricks in that prefix

Wwalmis Yeah, the software endstops feature is what you're looking for.

BAKE•8/31/22, 7:58 PM

Perfect

TTheZoq2 You need to run it once to get a prefix, then winetricks in that prefix

Deleted UserOP•8/31/22, 8:04 PM

ah yeah it installed but it's all whack at the moment

Deleted UserOP•8/31/22, 10:47 PM

Managed to get it installing, took some extra help but on my way now!

TonyM•9/1/22, 1:56 AM

Is Force Feedback supported in MSFS?
or is Force Feedback only implemented so far in DCS and IL-2?

Tayga•9/1/22, 2:24 AM

MSFS doesn't support DX force feedback natively

Tayga•9/1/22, 2:24 AM

May need XPForce, but it isn't very flexible in its options

TTayga May need XPForce, but it isn't very flexible in its options

TonyM•9/1/22, 3:49 AM

Where can I find what DX and XPForce do and the differences between the 2?
I know only VPForce FFB
https://vpforcecontrols.com/usb/rhino/

TTonyM Where can I find what DX and XPForce do and the differences between the 2? I kn...

Deleted UserOP•9/1/22, 5:54 AM

I believe DX refers to DirectX which to my limited understanding has to do with controller support

Tayga•9/1/22, 7:50 AM

Yeah it doesn't have any DirectX effects

Tayga•9/1/22, 7:50 AM

It's just plain stick

Tayga•9/1/22, 7:51 AM

Unless VPForce is able to tap into SimVars and create effects in house

TTayga Unless VPForce is able to tap into SimVars and create effects in house

walmis•9/1/22, 8:40 AM

SimVars? I thought SimConnect is for MSFS

Tayga•9/1/22, 8:54 AM

Ye, we're discussing MSFS FFB

TonyM•9/1/22, 9:05 AM

ok, so it works fine with DCS and IL-2, but not really with MSFS. Got it!
(I originally thought it would also work with MSFS as I have a motion rig (SFX DIY hardware) that works with the telemetry (SRS software) out of DCS, IL-2 and MSFS)

walmis•9/1/22, 11:47 AM

If anyone get keybindings in DCS broken after update (because the VPforce device name got changed), you can run the following command in cmd to rename all the keybinding files in DCS Saved games directory Config/Input

for /r %x in (*9E573EDE-7734-11d2-8D4A-23903FB6BDF7*.diff.lua) do ren "%x" "VPforce Rhino FFB Joystick {9E573EDE-7734-11d2-8D4A-3903FB6BDF7}.diff.lua"

for /r %x in (*9E573EDE-7734-11d2-8D4A-23903FB6BDF7*.diff.lua) do ren "%x" "VPforce Rhino FFB Joystick {9E573EDE-7734-11d2-8D4A-3903FB6BDF7}.diff.lua"

Replace 9E573EDE-7734-11d2-8D4A-23903FB6BDF7 with your unique ID

Dddrake1984 there is an FFB option for rudders in DCS, but that could be for only selective ...

Flashgod_VR•9/1/22, 12:28 PM

okay, i just tested to use the x axis of my rhino as rudder and chose pedals trimmer mode "INSTANT TRIM (FFB FRIENDLY)"... well, sadly it doesn't work. what works is the removal of spring force during holding down the trimmer button. but after release the stick snaps back to center and doesn't hold the intended position. i guess we need ED for built-in support here. because the lack of existing FFB pedals this might take a while

Flashgod_VR•9/1/22, 12:30 PM

or some magic mojo via FFB pedal firmware if someone ever builds a set of pedals with a DIY kit.

ddrake1984•9/1/22, 12:38 PM

thanks for trying

Flashgod_VR•9/1/22, 12:45 PM

well, it could work by going the dirty hack way that Brunner is doing. trimming from the "outside" of DCS. but only for the pedals, since for a cyclic it works superb in DCS.

Flashgod_VR•9/1/22, 12:46 PM

basically forcing and holding the position, just for the pedal device.

skeleton•9/2/22, 8:41 PM

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoggit/comments/x45xgb/c130j_ffb_support_send_dev_a_ffb_stick/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
The C-130 devs need a FFB base

r/hoggit - C-130J FFB Support? - Send Dev a FFB stick

41 votes and 12 comments so far on Reddit

Cpt_Adhesive•9/2/22, 8:52 PM

Hold up

Cpt_Adhesive•9/2/22, 8:52 PM

Walmis is from Lithuania?

Cpt_Adhesive•9/2/22, 8:53 PM

Holy jesus why was I always thinking he is czech

CCpt_Adhesive Walmis is from Lithuania?

walmis•9/3/22, 6:56 AM

Yep yep

Cpt_Adhesive•9/3/22, 6:59 AM

brain fart moment

Ye Old Grog•9/3/22, 7:53 AM

The gimbal on the rhino is 3d printed, correct?
Are there any concerns of someone (not I I swear) getting to enthusiastic?

Deleted UserOP•9/3/22, 8:12 AM

ram jam and mashing the stick? i hope not

Ye Old Grog•9/3/22, 8:37 AM

I don't normally fly that way but mistakes happen

Deleted UserOP•9/3/22, 8:42 AM

yeah don't worry, it just reminds me to a kid at this one aviation museum mashing the pedals and stick as if he was making wine or something

Deleted UserOP•9/3/22, 8:42 AM

poor demonstrator :(

C6_lefuneste•9/5/22, 10:47 AM

Hello, I tested il Il2 the new "HW trim" mapped to a potentiometer : it worked great. Many thanks !

Hardo•9/5/22, 3:10 PM

This question might have been asked before, but if so I couldn't find it. How useful would a ffb stick be for a fly-by-wire plane, e.g F/A-8 of F-16?

Deleted UserOP•9/5/22, 3:17 PM

AFAIK, however - im not sure how far this is implemented in DCS
but most Aircraft, FBW included - would have a system in place that would artificially restrain the controls using springs or some kind of computer, so the pilot isn't just yanking a dead piece of metal around while the plane flies all over the place... (except for F-16's ofcourse, that's force sensing!)
if it's enabled in DCS, you could try it in the harrier and manually disable the artificial feel system (i believe i saw a switch for that atleast)

Deleted UserOP•9/5/22, 3:17 PM

but again, no idea if it's at all implemented

Cpt_Adhesive•9/5/22, 3:30 PM

Even if there would be no good FFB in a module I suppose you can turn the base into a normal spring stick (that's just my rough guess, not really sure how does all of that work, really

)

Deleted UserOP•9/5/22, 3:31 PM

or use the new trim function to - well... trim things!

Pfhoenix•9/5/22, 3:38 PM

@walmis do you plan on shipping some more Rhinos this week?

CCpt_Adhesive Even if there would be no good FFB in a module I suppose you can turn the base i...

skeleton•9/5/22, 3:46 PM

^ this

Idk for sure but I think DCS itself handles spring and damper if there's no special FFB implementation in the module. I should try the Harrier again...
For other software (like MSFS because it doesn't support FFB (yet

) and in my opinion XPForce is really not good in MSFS) you can set the stock parameters in the Rhino Software like spring, damper, friction, ...

Cpt_Adhesive•9/5/22, 3:48 PM

that itself already sounds so much better than having a regular spring base...dampers

AndyHill•9/5/22, 3:52 PM

Ideally (I don't own the Rhino so can't tell from experience) you can use an FFB stick just like a regular stick with incredible amount of adjustability

AndyHill•9/5/22, 3:53 PM

Or you can use it to replicate the specific feel of any given stick, for example different amount of travel or resistance on elevator / aileron, different kinds of centering feels etc.

AndyHill•9/5/22, 3:54 PM

It's of course entirely up to the stick and its software just how well that's going to work and like I said I don't have the Rhino so I just don't know

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