Open Brush, Open Blocks, Icosa Gallery•4y ago

Yesterday i told on ot support and bugs channel that i made a list of all OB versions i have with st

Yesterday i told on ot support and bugs channel that i made a list of all OB versions i have with statistics of number of features for myself. You asked if i can share this, so i organized it google sheets and this version is the last there..yet

VVasso Yesterday i told on ot support and bugs channel that i made a list of all OB ver...

andybak•10/6/22, 2:20 PM

Ah yes! I didn't realise that was also you.

andybak•10/6/22, 2:21 PM

I have a short memory on Discord

andybak•10/6/22, 2:21 PM

in fact - I need to reply to your last comment there...

jin•10/7/22, 2:46 PM

gltf import would be nice, is there a reason why model-import is limited to obj only?

Jjin gltf import would be nice, is there a reason why model-import is limited to obj ...

andybak•10/7/22, 3:37 PM

It's not:

andybak•10/7/22, 3:38 PM

Although the current GLTF importer is quite limited we've got a replacement in progress. You can try a test build: https://github.com/icosa-gallery/open-brush/actions/runs/3135128090

GitHub

Feature/gltfast · icosa-gallery/open-brush@a938abd

Open Brush is the FREE community led evolution of Tilt Brush! - Feature/gltfast · icosa-gallery/open-brush@a938abd

jin•10/7/22, 3:56 PM

will do, thx!

AncientWorlds•10/8/22, 5:50 AM

Unless I'm the only one with this problem, I would like to see a better way to unpin things. Very hard to get rid of them sometimes, especially if the pin fades in and out. Maybe if the cancel pin intersects with the object/group that's pinned, rather than whatever it does now?

Sean Rodrigo•10/14/22, 1:04 PM

@andybak not sure if youve seen this for multiplayer https://normcore.io/

Normcore | Normcore. Seamless multiplayer for Unity.

The best multiplayer plugin for Unity. Add multiplayer to any Unity app, scale automatically.

mikesky•10/14/22, 1:05 PM

As it's closed source, we can't use it unfortunately

Sean Rodrigo•10/15/22, 3:47 PM

I think ive mentioned this to @andybak before but would be amazing to consider if openbrush can incorporate some more cinematography features into the camera tool. This would mean we can offer film makers the option to use open brush as a previs tool - heres a unity blog with some points https://www.vfxvoice.com/instant-feedback-expozure-expands-its-virtual-toolset/

VFX Voice Magazineadmin

Instant Feedback: Expozure Expands its Virtual Toolset

Unity Technologies' Digital Monarch Media on their Virtual Film Tools suite tool Expozure VFT

Sean Rodrigo•10/15/22, 3:49 PM

A tool i think has done an amazing job is 'Dreamz' - heres a great glimpse into what their UI and camera system looks like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ShlowOA3Rg

YouTubeSakku's Mind

How To: Create Cutscenes & Use Cameras in Dreams PS4 | Sakku's Guid...

In today's tutorial I'm showing you the options of the camera gadget and how to create a cutscene, camera paths or dollyshot in Dreams on a Playstation 4! In this I'll also explain some logic and give you some tips and tricks on the way as always.
A lot of effort went into this video so I would be thankful for any kind of support, share it with ...

Sean Rodrigo•10/15/22, 3:52 PM

Doesnt have to be over complicated - simple steps like being able to change Focus, fov and scene brightness.

SSean Rodrigo A tool i think has done an amazing job is 'Dreamz' - heres a great glimpse into ...

andybak•10/15/22, 5:32 PM

Dreams is incredible (I bought a PSVR just to play with it!)

andybak•10/15/22, 5:32 PM

But I find the UI really overwhelming.

Aandybak But I find the UI *really* overwhelming.

Sean Rodrigo•10/15/22, 5:48 PM

I agree, same with Quill and AnimVR - Not a case study in UI but more of a example of cinematic camera moves

AncientWorlds•10/20/22, 9:20 AM

Ability to bundle supporting elements (photos and videos) so they stay with the piece, maybe in a second folder where they can manually added or

Zandy•10/20/22, 11:24 AM

Just requested this recently as well. Would be super helpful for models as well. Once they are deleted from the folder their gone from the painting.

andybak•10/20/22, 11:31 AM

Yep. I agree this is a useful feature. Probably do this in two stages:
Step 1: The option to copy models to a subfolder of the sketch
Step 2: Add the option to embed the models in the .tilt file itself.

andybak•10/20/22, 11:32 AM

Wondering if these options are common enough to need to be in the UI - or whether adding a config file setting is enough?

andybak•10/20/22, 11:32 AM

(bearing in mind we eventually want all config file settings to be available in the UI)

Zandy•10/20/22, 11:33 AM

Honestly think a lot of people would use this! The UI integration would be amazing.

Zandy•10/20/22, 11:34 AM

Along with the ability to name and retake picture for the sketch file (please.

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mikesky•10/20/22, 12:01 PM

I think @Tim A was super interested in seeing this too - it’ll also be important when we have custom brushes

Mmikesky I think @Tim A was super interested in seeing this too - it’ll also be important...

andybak•10/20/22, 12:02 PM

Initially this would just be Media Library stuff - nothing to do with brushes

mikesky•10/20/22, 12:04 PM

I know, but Tim’s idea discussed those as well - hermetic files I believe he called them! It’s on our unused Trello

Aandybak (bearing in mind we eventually want all config file settings to be available in ...

AncientWorlds•10/23/22, 12:18 PM

Ya, UI integration would be great. Bundling models and assets is pretty valuable for portability.
Internal linking works as long as things are on the local system, then you upload and the model's gone.
Been fighting with these quirks for the last couple of days

Zandy•10/24/22, 5:02 PM

Would love to have the ability to see the picture of the sketch in the folder as an icon and the ability to retake the shot.

Zandy•10/24/22, 5:03 PM

A lot of times you do the quick save and the initial picture isnt a true final representation of the piece itself.

Zandy•10/24/22, 5:04 PM

It would also be a great option to help us rename the file directly on the desktop too.

ZZandy It would also be a great option to help us rename the file directly on the deskt...

andybak•10/24/22, 8:10 PM

You're on Mac, right? I've got a vague idea how to do today on PC via installing a shell extension but not sure what the Mac equivalent would be

andybak•10/24/22, 8:11 PM

We'd need someone with MacOS dev experience most likely and they are thin on the ground round these parts.

andybak•10/24/22, 8:12 PM

(this is about the desktop icon part of your suggestion)

Zandy•10/24/22, 8:55 PM

Hi Andy! I have a Mac but use the pc for VR

Zandy•10/24/22, 8:56 PM

I can help with anything mac if you need testing. Have an iMac 3.6 ghz 8 core i9 72g ram. Running Radeon Pro Vega 48 8gb

Zandy•10/24/22, 8:57 PM

The exe for mac is dmg

mikeage•10/25/22, 2:15 AM

Remember that we also disabled the Mac build with OpenXR because of the lack of monoscopic mode.

We could probably do a separate app for preview purposes, though

andybak•10/25/22, 8:45 AM

I guess the "Preview Icons for the Mac" use-case is either "browsing the Quest's sketches when it's connected to a Mac via USB" or "browsing sketches that have been copied over to the Mac". I suspect there's no way to show icons for the former unless we built our own equivalent to https://www.android.com/filetransfer/

andybak•10/25/22, 8:46 AM

For the latter - we'd still need to have a stub app on the Mac to implement this: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/quicklookthumbnailing/providing_thumbnails_of_your_custom_file_types

andybak•10/25/22, 8:47 AM

So @Zandy - in either case - the issue is that none of us know much about native Mac app development.

andybak•10/25/22, 8:47 AM

We'd need a kindly volunteer to wander past and offer to work on this.

andybak•10/25/22, 8:48 AM

I guess another option is a pseudo-native Unity app. But building a file browser in Unity wouldn't be fun. (ok. it would be. But building a good file browser in Android would be a lot tougher)

andybak•10/25/22, 8:49 AM

Because people have lots of experience using file browsers, any bespoke non-native alternative is going to seem really clunky.

andybak•10/25/22, 8:50 AM

But maybe it would be better than nothing. This relates to the "companion app" we've discussed in the past which could take various features that don't necessarily suit VR - or which complement VR. Sketch viewing, navigating, file-management, renaming etc.

Zandy•10/25/22, 12:21 PM

Got ya re Mac but if the icons could show even if it pulls the preview pic it would be very cool and helpful.

ZZandy Got ya re Mac but if the icons could show even if it pulls the preview pic it wo...

andybak•10/25/22, 12:28 PM

Not sure what you mean?

andybak•10/25/22, 12:28 PM

the preview pic is where the thumbnail would come from - but getting it to display in a normal Finder window isn't easy.

andybak•10/25/22, 12:28 PM

One hacky solution that @AncientWorlds suggested. Always save the thumbnail as a separate file with the same name as the sketch

andybak•10/25/22, 12:29 PM

that would display a thumbnail as it's just a normal png

Zandy•10/25/22, 12:29 PM

Oh?