Maybe the issue is the lab power supply. I know Chinese rebranded ones are very noisy. Maybe you can

Maybe the issue is the lab power supply. I know Chinese rebranded ones are very noisy. Maybe you can try a different one like a laptop power brick or one that uses a transformer. Worth a try?

SSwiftVengeance Maybe the issue is the lab power supply. I know Chinese rebranded ones are very ...

HomeOfMomo•12/14/22, 4:48 PM

I actually started out with a laptop power brick and noticed the issue. I thought it would be better by switching to a lab power supply but the problem persisted regardless of form of supply.

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/14/22, 5:14 PM

Have you tried a different computer?

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/14/22, 5:16 PM

try it on a laptop if you have one, run the same tests. It could be the usb controller if your on amd motherboard.

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/14/22, 5:17 PM

you can also try turning off all settings related to usb power savings/ standby/ sleep in windows and in bios.

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/14/22, 5:18 PM

SSwiftVengeance Have you tried a different computer?

HomeOfMomo•12/15/22, 2:12 AM

Thank you for your response! My motherboard is AMD based Asus Tuf Gaming X570 Pro WiFi. I finally had a chance to do the same test on my Intel based laptop and could not reproduce the issue. I updated BIOS and AMD's chipset driver for Windows 10 to the latest and turned off all USB power/standby/sleep/selective suspend settings as you suggested. I still see the same issue. Unfortunately, my laptop is not powerful enough for gaming so I'm pretty much stuck. Where did you hear about this USB thing with AMD motherboards? Is it something that people complained a lot in the past?

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/15/22, 2:13 AM

its a problem with other devices too

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/15/22, 2:14 AM

hp had to send me a special cable for my hp reverb g2 so it doesn't crash all the time specifically for amd motherboard

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/15/22, 2:16 AM

https://www.reddit.com/r/HPReverb/comments/oyk6xd/revision_2_of_the_reverb_g2_cable_and_all_the/

r/HPReverb - Revision 2 of the Reverb G2 Cable and all the Mysterie...

402 votes and 680 comments so far on Reddit

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/15/22, 2:17 AM

this is what they did to it so it can work with my motherboard

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/15/22, 2:17 AM

I have the asus strix x570i

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/15/22, 2:18 AM

So you can try a usb hub or pci usb hub, apparently that fixes the issue if you find a good one

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/15/22, 2:20 AM

apparently amd tried to fix it through bios updates multiple times and failed

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/15/22, 2:21 AM

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/kbr6zl/usb_issues_on_b550x570_motherboards

r/Amd - USB issues on B550/X570 Motherboards

261 votes and 568 comments so far on Reddit

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/15/22, 2:21 AM

you can read more about it here

PiNKSH!T•12/15/22, 2:23 AM

will someone be able to help me out soon to run through the initial set up of my Rhino?

SSwiftVengeance you can read more about it here

HomeOfMomo•12/15/22, 2:34 AM

Wow, I had no idea!

I've tried my USB hub to no avail. Maybe I can go get a PCIe USB card next... Thanks again for the enlightenment!

HHomeOfMomo Wow, I had no idea!😫 I've tried my USB hub to no avail. Maybe I can go get a P...

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/15/22, 3:35 AM

is the latest Ryzen chipset driver from AMD installed?

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/15/22, 3:36 AM

is Disable Global C-State in the BIOS enabled? if it is then disable it

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/15/22, 3:37 AM

can you run prime95 on you computer for a while?

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/15/22, 3:38 AM

or convert a video in handbrake

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/15/22, 3:40 AM

and see if your computer crashes

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/15/22, 3:47 AM

try out all the ports on the back of the motherboard, there are cpu ports and chipset ports. the faster ones like usb3.0 and usb c are generally the cpu ports, also the newer the port like if ts usb 3 gen 2 or somethingits more likelyto have better signal integrity then just a usb 3 or a usb 2. for some people this happens only cpu ports or mother board ports only and for others it happens on both

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/15/22, 3:54 AM

next step would be to buy a powered usb hub or powered pcie card

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/15/22, 3:54 AM

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B6ZCNGM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Inateck PCI-e to USB 3.0 (4 Ports) PCI Express Card and 15-Pin Powe...

Inateck PCI-e to USB 3.0 (4 Ports) PCI Express Card and 15-Pin Power Connector, Red (KT4001)

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/15/22, 3:54 AM

lots of people say this one worked

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/15/22, 3:56 AM

but if you find another cheaper where you live with sata power like this one then give it a try

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/15/22, 3:59 AM

also try plug in all other usbs in the usb hub and plug in the rhino one alone in the best usb port on the back of your motherboard like usb c or the turquoise ports, those should be the best

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/15/22, 4:00 AM

this might decrease the noise from the other usbs just enough for it to work

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/15/22, 4:02 AM

try multiple different usb hubs, 3.0, powered , non powered, pcie, etc to try and get the cleanest signal possible

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/15/22, 4:07 AM

oh one more is to try out pcie 3 in bios

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/15/22, 4:09 AM

here is another idea

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/15/22, 4:09 AM

use a really short usb cable from the rhino and plug it straight into a powered usb 3.0 hub with good quality thick shielded wire

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/15/22, 4:09 AM

then the usb hub into the computer

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/15/22, 4:12 AM

try adding a faraday cage or some kind shielding around the rhino logic board so it doesnt get affected by the magnetic currents from all the other components

SSwiftVengeance try adding a faraday cage or some kind shielding around the rhino logic board so...

HomeOfMomo•12/15/22, 4:35 AM

Wow, that's a lot to digest. I did update AMD's chipset driver to the latest and saw no improvement. I'll try one thing at a time as you suggested. I think it's pretty clear now that it has something to do with signal integrity.

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/15/22, 4:38 AM

Yeah I think so too. Basically try to get the best signal possible and do the settings changes.

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/15/22, 4:50 AM

https://www.usb.org/products

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/15/22, 4:50 AM

Use this website for anything you get

SwiftVengeanceOP•12/15/22, 4:51 AM

If the product your looking at is on here then its guaranteed to meet usb specifications

SSwiftVengeance If the product your looking at is on here then its guaranteed to meet usb specif...

HomeOfMomo•12/15/22, 5:10 AM

Roger, thanks!

PiNKSH!T•12/15/22, 9:11 AM

Hey sorry if I'm missing something obvious, but is there any documentation/tutorials of any kind to show me how to go about initial set up of the Rhino base?

walmis•12/15/22, 9:15 AM

Hey, there's the in-depth technical guide about the system: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNhRD2Bsb8o
This one was made for the kits, but applies to the Rhino too.

Grab the software here: https://vpforcecontrols.com/usb/rhino/

YouTubeValmantas Palikša

VPforce 'Rhino' FFB Kit Getting Started Guide

This is a first introduction of the Rhino FFB system that will be available soon for purchase as a DYI kit. This system will enable enthusiasts to build a plug-an-play FFB joysticks with custom mechanics. Contact me for details if interested.

Contacts:
VPforce Discord Channel: https://discord.gg/Y7YmFGHbee
DCS Forums: https://forum.dcs.world/p...