MAh don't worry I worked out the F5, I'd picked the ffb option in special but linear seems more accurate
Psorry I was playing with the stick like a child lol, the bases' is v1.0.12 looks like the current is v1.0.2-4 is that right?
WNo need to update, you have the latest 
Poh yeah that's the web version build number I was looking at oops. That's just another goal mate, coming shipped with the latest firmware & my PC picked up the stick & told me to go to the web page & connect etc. nice work Walmis!
PHey walmis are you around? just needed an explanation on the endstops, I'm a little unsure on what to change in the settings. Thanks m8
WSo max position is the amount of travel the endstop will engage at, and max power is the amount of power the motors will resist at, you can try 50% power and 50% Max Pos. It should reduce the travel by 5o%
WRescale axes - this will remap axes so that when you reach the endstop, the game/OS will see full travel
Pahh cool, just wasn't sure, yeah looking at it again I see it now, green & red are the + & - % limits & the power is how much power/torque will be used to hold it from 'breaking' through the endstop limit?
Pcheers m8
Wthose fields are X positive, X negative, Y positive, Y negative. So you can change the endstops based on direction (or quadrant of movement). So for example you can limit pitch down to 50% and have a full pitch-up range.
Pahh I remember seeing this be requested
Pthen the firmware/config was updated like only a day or so later! lol good job
WYeah, I have a big update in the works
Pis the power setting related to max gain or max spring setting?
Wno it's separate, the endstop once enabled is always running.
Pahh ok so it's % of the max motor power to hold?
Wyeah
Pso just set to 100% then? I just need the throw in general to be a little less
Psorry to pest you too 
WYeah, 100% is fine, but in the current version it could start to jump around between endstops if no damping is enabled
WEndstops should feel much improved in the next version
Pso if I have damper, spring etc. set to values on the "Settings" tab what do I need to do with those same settings in the "Effects" tab?
PI have 25% damper set in Settings tab
WIn the Settings those sliders adjust the global gains for that effect class, and in the effects you create an "instance" of that effect, similar how DirectX creates effects in DCS for example.
Pso for my 'global' settings to work I don't need to check the box in the related Effects tab? are totally separate? Sorry I also don't understand what you mean by an 'instance' of the effect, does this mean how much of those effects you will feel from the base when it's told to do so by the game?
Pfeel free to just point me to a google search to explain things not directly related to your software
WSo yeah, the game can create those effects and Rhino can create them internally too, the sliders in Settings adjust the global "volume" of those effects.
Wso for example if spring in Effects is at 100%, and Spring is zero in settings, then the output will be zero
Pso they need to match in both tabs? settings & effects? other wise settinsg is letting it go to say 30% damper but in tab it's set to 0% so you get no damper effect?
Pso your software reads the game to know when to do these effects?
WIt's all done in hardware
Pok, sorry my tiny chimp brain at 1:20am isn't understanding how it can know when to do these awesome things, but you know what? it doesn't matter how it does it I can just enjoy that it does! thanks again walmis.
WHere's a quick diagram of the data flow to conceptualize better. I'll expand this graph in time
PCheers m8
MAnyone want to share the setting profiles they use for say a mi8 or the f18 or warbirds? I've got a lot of reading of old threads to do!
Swhat kind of settings?
Phere's mine (for warbirds):
PThe 'inertia' + damper effect gives it a feeling of some weight in the controls (weight of the actual control surfaces). And once the in-game spring effect kicks in everything feels like I "think" is should feel ... :)) I never flew any airplanes so my 'feeling' can be totally off, but nevertheless I enjoy what I have :))
MHaha yeah I their l threw everything onto 40 percent last night including friction and constant
MI'll watch the video tonight and try to work it out
MInterested to see others as well
MI tried this with the warbirds, it was nice
MThen I tried it with the mig15 and the stick kept beeping and breaking
Swhat are p effects
Pperiodic effects
Pnot sure exactaly how it works but that's the name
Sdoes the spring effect the spring strength coming from dcs
Sor is it an extra spring on top
Pthe spring settings in the 'Settings' tab is the overall spring setting, so from what I understand it gives dcs acess to the % of spring effect you set
Sso then that means that the other sliders basically dont do anything ?