Althou I read back drivable somewhere
Althou I read back drivable somewhere
SThere is also irreversible hydraulic control which is basically power boosted but you cant feel anything
SSo those side stick helos are deflection or force sensing?
原deflection
SSo is the rhino pretty much plug and play or is there some setup required. And if so is it significant or fairly easy to do?
SIf you get the one thats fully built it should be plug and play
SWhat do you mean fully built?
SPlug the stick in, power it on. Start the game, bind the axis and buttons and your good to go
SThere is different versions walis is selling, there is fully built ones and ones that only have the motors and electronics
原here is a glance on what's inside a bell 525 cyclic and so on. It's a FBW side cyclichttps://youtu.be/Tn9fpgblUtU?t=379
SSo in the faq there is a 800 price and then further down is a price based on motor
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SThese are only for the motors and usb micro controller
原might be the 777. I'm quite sure it's the word they've used on the 777
SYou might be right actually
SI did read about the max
SSo the 800 is the fully built one then.
SYup
WI’m assuming the 800 full build is using the most powerful motors he has listed?
SWeakest*
SAny reason why?
S
原oh actually the length of the arm of the Bell525 side cyclic is kinda similar to an airbus sidestick. only military jet fighters use small travel force sensing sidesticks. On the civilian side, all the sidesticks used are in principle similar to the larger travel desktop joystick but with much more stick force and better damper. And the newest ones even use motor driven FFB "Active" sidestick
SProbably because they are different size and the dificulty of dealing with multiple size joysticks and cost
SThe ones it comes with are still powerfull though
原iirc Walmis once said that metal gimbal is probably required for bigger motors
SMy issue with getting something like a virpil or vkb is I feel its too limp feeling
SBut maybe that’s what it feels like irl
SIf you want more power but dont want to have to manufacture and design your own joystick then you can go for laser wing ffb joystick. Its about the same size but it uses robot actuators that will split your nuts in half if you let go
SI feel like a virpil cm3 with an extension and a controller on it will just be too easy to move around. I want more force required
原yeah earlier chat in this channel suggest even the Rhino "feels" stiffer than the spring bases on their heaviest spring
SOk good. I like a stiffer feel
SThey have no where near the streght of ffb joysticks but they are totaly usable.
SWhat ffb joystick allows you to do is fly with an extension.
原no it's not. for example, even the airbus side stick requires about 22lb force for max deflection on pitch axis, and 7~9lb max for rolling
SThat give you the best accuracy and more realistic
SCouldn’t find a laser wing ffb online
SJust to see what you meant
SIf you put a extension on virpil or winwing I would bet it feels like a limp pipi
SSLmao. I had a vkb on max strength as a desktop stick that felt limp and that’s not even with an extension
原F-16 sidestick requires 25~30lbs-ish on pitch, can't remember the number tho. high 1x lb for rolling
SYea. The real sim fssb maxes at like 13 pounds I think
原affirm. and that's not even close for the real number for pitch
SI still felt like I was cranking on it though before it started to beep at me
原F18EFG
SThe guy from laser wing sayd he had his stick at 2% force and it was stronger then the rhino if im not mistaken
SWhat’s the price on those?
SI didn’t see one listed on the site
SBut yea that sounds hella strong
SThe motors cost like 400 each if im not mistaken
