OpenGL is a lot better to use for a hobby project, but it's also slowly withering away and there is

OpenGL is a lot better to use for a hobby project, but it's also slowly withering away and there is no FOSS standard to replace it with equivalent ease-of-use yet

flyke•1/10/23, 12:13 PM

So if I want to make small home projects with 3d or 2d, GL is sufficient? No need to worry about Vulkan?

PerkseyOP•1/10/23, 12:13 PM

yep! GL will be around for a long time, and makes your life easier.

flyke•1/10/23, 1:09 PM

Do we have window event “OnResize”? To recalculate UI positions on screen.

Fflyke Do we have window event “OnResize”? To recalculate UI positions on screen.🤔

PerkseyOP•1/10/23, 1:17 PM

yes there's a Resize and FramebufferResize event

PerkseyOP•1/10/23, 1:17 PM

they are used in the examples

PerkseyOP•1/10/23, 1:18 PM

you should pretty much always prefer the latter, as that refers to the scaled size

PerkseyOP•1/10/23, 1:18 PM

e.g. you could have a 500x500 window size, but its actual render resolution could be 1000x1000 (you see this most frequently on retina displays)

flyke•1/10/23, 1:54 PM

Thanks for tips, so we should use not real pixels, but "resolution" pixels from "Framebuffer".

PPerksey OpenGL is a lot better to use for a hobby project, but it's also slowly witherin...

Kai•1/10/23, 2:00 PM

I think the expectation is that libraries built on vulkan / DX12 will slowly replace OpenGL. Plus translation layers ofc

PerkseyOP•1/10/23, 2:01 PM

yeah

PerkseyOP•1/10/23, 2:01 PM

i've been waiting for something like a high-level wrapper that is more akin to OpenGL (but Vulkan-style rather than with this horrible state machine bind crap) to come out for Vulkan

PerkseyOP•1/10/23, 2:01 PM

back when i had motivation i was originally going to make my own called Hulkan

Kai•1/10/23, 2:13 PM

Everytime I'm impressed with your naming skills

PerkseyOP•1/10/23, 2:14 PM

hahaha yes

PerkseyOP•1/10/23, 2:14 PM

I turned the V

PerkseyOP•1/10/23, 2:14 PM

INTO A H

PerkseyOP•1/10/23, 2:14 PM

Kai•1/10/23, 2:14 PM

but it sounds good

PerkseyOP•1/10/23, 2:14 PM

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-smash-loki-gif-11645588

Tenor

Kai•1/10/23, 2:14 PM

Iulkan

Kai•1/10/23, 2:14 PM

doesn't have the same ring to it

Kai•1/10/23, 2:14 PM

huh

Kai•1/10/23, 2:14 PM

Eulkan

PerkseyOP•1/10/23, 2:14 PM

haha

Kai•1/10/23, 2:14 PM

also terrible

PerkseyOP•1/10/23, 2:14 PM

feel free to use the name

Kai•1/10/23, 2:14 PM

once I invent the tech to have 48h in a day I'll steal the name

PerkseyOP•1/10/23, 2:15 PM

hah, can i borrow that tech?

Kai•1/10/23, 2:16 PM

once I invent it sure lol

PerkseyOP•1/10/23, 2:16 PM

excellent

PerkseyOP•1/10/23, 2:16 PM

good deals have been made today

Maslas•1/10/23, 5:01 PM

Well so far I managed to implement Silk with Vulkan into my application, the only pain is the memory allocation. Do we know when and if VMA will be supported, or if there is any other library for C# that could be integrated with Silk for that purpose?

Kai•1/10/23, 5:02 PM

There is https://github.com/sunkin351/VMASharp

Kai•1/10/23, 5:02 PM

which works decently

Kai•1/10/23, 5:03 PM

For compute, if you really care about perf, you should be able to handle it yourself

Maslas•1/10/23, 5:04 PM

Well I am thinking about it

Maslas•1/10/23, 5:04 PM

Thanks

flyke•1/10/23, 10:05 PM

Is it possible to find some premade shaders for GL? Like “lit/unlit material” same as we have in Unity shaders. Or some basic examples of materials, something to start from?

Fflyke Is it possible to find some premade shaders for GL? Like “lit/unlit material” sa...

ThomasMiz•1/10/23, 10:13 PM

You can probably look up PBR (Physically Based Rendering) implementation in OpenGL if that's what you're looking for. If you just want some simple shaders, TrippyGL has a a builder that allows making some basic shaders similar to MonoGame's BasicEffect: https://github.com/SilkCommunity/TrippyGL/blob/master/TrippyGL/SimpleShaderProgramBuilder.cs

GitHub

TrippyGL/SimpleShaderProgramBuilder.cs at master · SilkCommunity/Tr...

A simple, lightweight yet highly versatile OpenGL graphics library - TrippyGL/SimpleShaderProgramBuilder.cs at master · SilkCommunity/TrippyGL

ThomasMiz•1/10/23, 10:14 PM

You can definitely take some code from there and make it return just the GLSL code strings

flyke•1/10/23, 10:17 PM

Yes, PBR materials would be the best, because its standard for game assets.

flyke•1/10/23, 10:21 PM

Will look closely at that TrippyGL, I found it before but not quite understand what it doing, and Discord not very populated.

Furball•1/11/23, 7:41 PM

okay so

Furball•1/11/23, 7:41 PM

fun issue

Furball•1/11/23, 7:41 PM

glfwShowWindow is causing a access violation

Furball•1/11/23, 7:41 PM

assuming im reading the stack trace correctly

PerkseyOP•1/11/23, 7:41 PM

nope

PerkseyOP•1/11/23, 7:42 PM

I’m out

PerkseyOP•1/11/23, 7:42 PM

nope nope nopety nope

Furball•1/11/23, 7:42 PM

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