Silk.NET•3y ago

winforms

ritchie ❤OP•1/16/23, 10:43 PM

NNitrous what I meant was anything written is bound to be used for ASP.NET

Aqua•1/16/23, 10:43 PM

ah
i see what you mean
in that case
yes

Lyris the Kitori•1/16/23, 10:43 PM

winforms is fine to work with tbh

Lyris the Kitori•1/16/23, 10:44 PM

aside from Mono's shit cross-platform impl of it

Rritchie ❤winforms

Aqua•1/16/23, 10:44 PM

windows forms is the only GUI library in C# that i genuinely like
ETO is okay and i live with it because of that but windows forms is decent

Aqua•1/16/23, 10:44 PM

plus

ritchie ❤OP•1/16/23, 10:44 PM

ohhhkay

Aqua•1/16/23, 10:44 PM

you can make a damn table with it

Lyris the Kitori•1/16/23, 10:44 PM

like from a developers perspective winforms is simple

ritchie ❤OP•1/16/23, 10:44 PM

winforms is fine

ritchie ❤OP•1/16/23, 10:44 PM

if you use it in C#

ritchie ❤OP•1/16/23, 10:44 PM

but

ritchie ❤OP•1/16/23, 10:44 PM

winforms + VB

Aqua•1/16/23, 10:44 PM

why is it so hard to make a damn table in other libraries

Aqua•1/16/23, 10:44 PM

EWWWW VB

Rritchie ❤winforms + VB

Nitrous•1/16/23, 10:44 PM

visual basic is generally bad

Lyris the Kitori•1/16/23, 10:44 PM

for audio i just use the really nice ManagedBass bindings

ritchie ❤OP•1/16/23, 10:45 PM

but WinForms + VB is especially bad

LLyris the Kitori for audio i just use the really nice ManagedBass bindings

Lyris the Kitori•1/16/23, 10:45 PM

im not commertial so i can use it for freeeee

ritchie ❤OP•1/16/23, 10:45 PM

because the VB compiler turns all WinForms forms into singletons

Nitrous•1/16/23, 10:45 PM

managedbass is actually really good but my goal is to not use restrictive licenses

Rritchie ❤but WinForms + VB is especially bad

Aqua•1/16/23, 10:45 PM

~~but WinForms +~~ VB is especially bad

fixed the sentence for you

Nitrous•1/16/23, 10:45 PM

unfortunately im writing for commercial use

Lyris the Kitori•1/16/23, 10:45 PM

all the good easy audio libraries are paid pretty much

Lyris the Kitori•1/16/23, 10:45 PM

at least for C#

Nitrous•1/16/23, 10:46 PM

openal seems okay-ish

Aqua•1/16/23, 10:46 PM

~~mixr will be free~~

Nitrous•1/16/23, 10:46 PM

but then you have to supply your own audio file readers

Lyris the Kitori•1/16/23, 10:46 PM

OpenAL doesnt handle file loading

Lyris the Kitori•1/16/23, 10:46 PM

yeah

ritchie ❤OP•1/16/23, 10:46 PM

Honestly I just stick to vorbis and WAV for my in-game audio

ritchie ❤OP•1/16/23, 10:46 PM

Only two file formats I need

Nitrous•1/16/23, 10:46 PM

I'm looking into supporting just wav, mp3 and vorbis

Nitrous•1/16/23, 10:46 PM

since those are the most commonly used

Lyris the Kitori•1/16/23, 10:46 PM

i cant do that, i have to support a multitude of file formats that the user shoves in

ritchie ❤OP•1/16/23, 10:46 PM

Which means it's trivial to use a vorbis library and a simple custom-written WAV importer

Nitrous•1/16/23, 10:47 PM

aac, aiff, wma

Nitrous•1/16/23, 10:47 PM

don't forget every audiophile's favorite

Nitrous•1/16/23, 10:47 PM

flac

ritchie ❤OP•1/16/23, 10:47 PM

m4a

Aqua•1/16/23, 10:48 PM

flac has good reason to exist

ritchie ❤OP•1/16/23, 10:48 PM

at3

ritchie ❤OP•1/16/23, 10:48 PM

because sony

Nitrous•1/16/23, 10:48 PM

there's no reason to support flac inside a game engine tbh

Nitrous•1/16/23, 10:49 PM

you just get better sounding audio but at the cost that its probably more costly to decode that format

Aqua•1/16/23, 10:49 PM

flac will sound no different to wav

ritchie ❤OP•1/16/23, 10:49 PM

A lot of the big engines are just going to decode and re-encode into an optimized format anyway

ritchie ❤OP•1/16/23, 10:49 PM

In some cases they'll even compress it

Aqua•1/16/23, 10:49 PM

it just uses less space
at the cost of the decoding requirements which frankly isn't much

ritchie ❤OP•1/16/23, 10:50 PM

I know one of the big features I want to add into Sparky is built-in audio system integration for the shader pipeline

winforms

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