@walmis how much can be controlled in terms of fx if the developer hasn't implemented all the bells
@walmis how much can be controlled in terms of fx if the developer hasn't implemented all the bells and whistles their end ? just out of interest ??
WYou mean via telemetry? Almost everything, there's full access to the hardware FFB features
MWhat is telemetry?
WDCS World Wiki - Hoggitworld.com
WWe can use this to add additional FFB effects
Pgreat stuff, thanks
MAh cool. I wonder if it adds any lag or stuttering
Wnope, it runs in a separate process
V:package: RHINO #0042 Has Shipped!
BOnly 130 to go before I get mine. 
TOnly 61 here
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VI have tried the telemetry app...well it has a lot of potential...and in complement with simshaker it is really something
Magree really enjoying this, for me the aoa buffeting really helps in the F18 to get a good feel for the best turn perf
WDo share your changes, I'll integrate into the main branch 
PWould something like this be possible for other games? msfs2020 is the main one I'm thinking of?
Wyeah, the same framework can be used to integrate SimConnect telemetry also
VI did not dig into it yet, but it is possible to implement moving trim for modules which should have and doesn't support it (like the harrier and the mig-19...yes all by razbam)
WI haven't figured out yet how to get trim values from DCS export.lua, not sure if at all possible.
VWell I think maybe you should get in contact with razbam as my IFE friends showed me it's easy to implement moving trim...with the 339 they did just in one hour work
WBut that's internal to the module
WI imagine it would be tricky to control trim externally
PRAZBAM, I asked them on their Discord about what FFB the F-15 E will come out with, his reply gave me no hope, he wasn't even sure if the F-15 was fly-by-wire or not, it's not only the newest Saudi version is. When I told him it wasn't fly-by-wire he informed me I should do the research of what effects the pilot would of felt by asking people in their discord, yeah so very low expectations from Razbam. Although now that Walmis has made this awesome DCS telemetry effects app I guess it doesn't matter what they do or don't add
VI know
VBut no one is asking them fancy effects
VFor that we can use telemetry
VBut the basics....the moving trim is essential
WYeah, they could implement this even with an old MSFF2
Dthe fact you can get the telem for most aircraft is really cool
V:package: RHINO #0043 Has Shipped!
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AThese things flyin off the shelves
RCould there be a solution like how XPForce implements trim for MSFS2020 maybe?
NFor A/C where trim works by moving the stick could we eliminate the game entirely and just bind the trim keys and use that to move the virtual center point?
NThen we could use something like the spring effect to give more force needed for greater deflections and still “feel” trim by moving the neutral position
NOnly major downside is we would need a reset button to for respawn
SI noticed the Apache is missing from the TelemFFB config.ini. Is this intentional?
Wno, it needs to be populated. As it's open source patches are welcome 
Sok, where does on find the necessary arguments to put in the 'get_argument_value' call?
Sfor example , where did you find them for the Dora?
Wthis is an entire can of worms - you have to search through module lua files: for example cockpit arguments are listed in (for mig-21) "DCS World\Mods\aircraft\MIG-21bis\Cockpit\mainpanel_init.lua"
SOMG. you are a hero for doing the planes you already did. I have written some lua files for the streamdeck plugin CTytler made (This allows a streamdeck to receive data from the module in DCS , display the state of the control in DCS, as well as send data back to DCS to change the state of the control - like flaps, gear, etc). I can look at what you did and reverse engineer the source. There are several identifiers a button can have so it's not always straightforward.
RJust asked a trim question on the Razbam F15E discord (seems have a few tossers over there).. so apparently the stick has autotrim, but also moves with trim input...
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VHey @.flatspin,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0043 on 2023-01-31
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 116 days, median is 116 days, max is 196 days
40 Rhinos are shipped in total
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0043 on 2023-01-31
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 116 days, median is 116 days, max is 196 days
40 Rhinos are shipped in total
Sso the apache is weird. Whereas the Dora has a ton of exportable values, the Apache only has these:
S[arg] = "%0.4f", -- gauge
[50] = "%0.4f", -- Operator_Body
[181] = "%0.4f", -- Canopy
[905] = "%0.4f", -- CanopyDamages
[798] = "%0.4f", -- canopy
[635] = "%0.4f", -- mirror_fake
[50] = "%0.4f", -- Operator_Body
[181] = "%0.4f", -- Canopy
[905] = "%0.4f", -- CanopyDamages
[798] = "%0.4f", -- canopy
[635] = "%0.4f", -- mirror_fake
Sthe number in the brackets is the DCS ID