@andyhill Andy, Could you post some of the pictures of your VPforce stick? I saw your reviews, and
@andyhill Andy, Could you post some of the pictures of your VPforce stick? I saw your reviews, and It's growing on me.
DTake the plunge 
DGauranteed to help you beat FALCO 
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V:package: RHINO #0045 Has Shipped!
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VHey @kruger1775,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0045 on 2023-02-13
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 122 days, median is 118 days, max is 209 days
43 Rhinos are shipped in total
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0045 on 2023-02-13
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 122 days, median is 118 days, max is 209 days
43 Rhinos are shipped in total
V:package: RHINO #0046 Has Shipped!
T<5 hours between shipments 
AIs there something specific you'd like to see? Mine is kind of hidden inside the pit and I'm terrible at taking pictures, if you just want to see pics of the Rhino Walmis has a lot better ones: https://imgur.com/gallery/Do6Jr0T
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-@andyhill I'd like to see the total length of yours
AIt's kind of hard to get a completely accurate measurement since the system is buried pretty deep in stuff, but it's something like 53-54cm
Awith the MCGU and adapter
SYou’re mean
DI definitely want this thing :)
DSeveral questions though:
1) how loud is it? There are several fans for cooling and I guess it's completely fine if it's something like 40mm or 50mm 2000rpm - but would be quite annoying if it's something like 40mm 4000rpm
2) I guess since US shipping is available - no issues with power cords? Asking because EU and US/Japan sockets are different.
3) Any recommendations how to use it if I don't want to build a cockpit? Based on size of this thing - it's definitely not table-top friendly, probably it should either go on some kind of chair mount or maybe floor with grip extender and some kind of heavy base?
1) how loud is it? There are several fans for cooling and I guess it's completely fine if it's something like 40mm or 50mm 2000rpm - but would be quite annoying if it's something like 40mm 4000rpm
2) I guess since US shipping is available - no issues with power cords? Asking because EU and US/Japan sockets are different.
3) Any recommendations how to use it if I don't want to build a cockpit? Based on size of this thing - it's definitely not table-top friendly, probably it should either go on some kind of chair mount or maybe floor with grip extender and some kind of heavy base?
P1) I play with a headset on so I haven't heard a single noise from it so far. Walmis might be best to answer the specs about the fans
2) I'm in Australia & got the right plug on my power pack so I'm guessing US would be same?
3) If you wanted to mount this on a chair mount it would need to be a decent mount, the RHINO doesn't weigh a massive amount but it does have some heft. I have mine floor mounted with a 200mm extension. My temporary solution for floor mounting was to get a length of checker plate metal (I had this lying around you could use a sheet of plywood) that goes from under my chair to under my rudder pedals I have the RHINO center mounted & my rudder pedals & chair keep it all in place.
2) I'm in Australia & got the right plug on my power pack so I'm guessing US would be same?
3) If you wanted to mount this on a chair mount it would need to be a decent mount, the RHINO doesn't weigh a massive amount but it does have some heft. I have mine floor mounted with a 200mm extension. My temporary solution for floor mounting was to get a length of checker plate metal (I had this lying around you could use a sheet of plywood) that goes from under my chair to under my rudder pedals I have the RHINO center mounted & my rudder pedals & chair keep it all in place.
Pany other questions feel free to ask m8
Dwarthog / f/a-18 grips from thrustmaster are supported natively, right?
DThat's great.
Also little bit curious with all that patent troll thing - since this device support direct input ffb - how this question is solved?
Also little bit curious with all that patent troll thing - since this device support direct input ffb - how this question is solved?
PF**k patent trolls
Ddoes this device use existing pcb of some joystick like g940/ms ffb2 or do we simply rely on small amount of production currently?
MPretty sure the patent troll thing was made up in someone's head and repeated online until it became accepted legend. Either way there is no such problem now
MBoard is made for this thank goodness, because it has a bunch of useful stuff combined into a single tiny unit!
M@walmis where does the estop go or does it just interrupt the psu? If it's turning off the psu, do the encoders lose power too? How about the grip/spi?
Someone asked if the axes still track when the motors are powered down and I've wondered since.
Someone asked if the axes still track when the motors are powered down and I've wondered since.
Dhm, so it's definitely not existing pcb.
though thinking of it - in any case it's a bit sad news. I believe in any case you can't just copy someone's pcb and number of existing pcb are quite limited, so you can't use that approach to solve troll issue
though thinking of it - in any case it's a bit sad news. I believe in any case you can't just copy someone's pcb and number of existing pcb are quite limited, so you can't use that approach to solve troll issue
MI have no idea what that means but there is no patent troll thing and people are free to use DirectInput
Dwell, in that case VKB would build their ffb base long time ago
DI think these assholes even sue people for vibro feedback in controllers
Dyeah, nintendo are actually paying them for the fact that switch vibrates when you use touch screen.......
Dthat is such a bullshit...
Dthough I also heard some news that these patents were expired recently... like this summer or something
D
WThey're building their TECS though
WYeah, it cuts power positive wire going to the motors. Position feedback will not work, but usb powered stuff like Grip will continue to work.
WTo answer 1) It's silent, unless you're dogfighting and motors go above 50degC, fans are 60mm ones, not super loud.
Duhm... throttle with ffb?
I'm looking at it but it seems nothing related to ffb at all.
I'm looking at it but it seems nothing related to ffb at all.
D(pedals with ffb when btw lol)
WYou could implement the motor kit into existing pedals though 
Dyeah, maybe in the future because pedals with trimming would be fantastic
WIt's more like haptic throttle with electronic detents, auto movement, etc. Basically subset of FFB.
Dhm, interesting. But I guess no sims supports that and try to move your throttle
Dhm, but still that's cool
D"moving throttle" is one thing and possibly useless, at least for military planes. But having the same device that works differently and for example on one aircraft provides smooth 0-100% while on the other aircraft provides smooth 0-80% and then tactile "bump" for afterburner...
Dor even larger "bump" to simulate breaking wire for WEP or something
Ddamn
WYeah, once you have the actuators in, you can make it work anyhow you want via software.
WFor example it could be possible to make a Rhino into a gear shifter lol.
D"shut up and take my money wait I don't have such amount of money for everything"
Ppretty sure there's a video out there (quick search & I can't find the forum it's on) but basically someone is trying to get the vkb owner to understand the need/benefits of ffb & they even take him on a flight, at the end of the video he still doesn't change his mind on ffb joysticks being a benefit for immersion etc.