AI’m guessing it’s just down to the costs of running a business in Western Europe/America as opposed to Eastern Europe/China
AAnd garage operations obv don’t really get enough orders to benefit from mass production
Poh cool, been wondering when they'd release one, I was starting to wonder if Winwing might get around to making one before Virpil
MThis and it's also expensive as hell to buy as well as to manufacture
SSave money and use super taurus as main throttle 
TECS looks like a toy kind of like the virpil throttles, and that tiny travel distance
TECS looks like a toy kind of like the virpil throttles, and that tiny travel distance
DHeard winwing's Button quality is not good compared to vkb and virpil
SVery minor differences, not enough to really matter I feel (have virpil and vkb products). The super taurus buttons and switches feel pretty solid. Had the throttle since early 2020 and haven't had any issues
JI'd say the key differences lay in customer service and shipping. Much cheaper, depending on where you are geographically, to ship something from VKB or Virpil than WinWing. All of WinWing products ship from China, so even something basic you're looking at over $100 usd for shipping. Also if your order is over $800 usd you get to pay some nice additional fees (import tariffs etc.).
While I'm sure the majority of people have great experiences with customer service, I've seen a lot of complaints in the r/hotas discord about poor customer service experiences that essentially boiled down to having to self repair, or just outright buy another product and not being provided anything even though things were under warranty.
That being said, WinWing offers a lot of things no one else does, and they do a good job with those things only they offer. Just doesn't hurt to do some research into all of them and weigh the pros and cons before deciding what you get.
While I'm sure the majority of people have great experiences with customer service, I've seen a lot of complaints in the r/hotas discord about poor customer service experiences that essentially boiled down to having to self repair, or just outright buy another product and not being provided anything even though things were under warranty.
That being said, WinWing offers a lot of things no one else does, and they do a good job with those things only they offer. Just doesn't hurt to do some research into all of them and weigh the pros and cons before deciding what you get.
JI personally want to get their big MFD panel combo one day. The one with all 3, the UFC, and the screens.
IThe virpil throttle has about the same travel as the jet I fly in real life… I don’t find it lacking one bit.
DYup, r/hotas is a spot for complaints all right.
lots of people think that self repair is too much work, while others prefer it. Honestly, if self repair is beyond someone, then maybe they need to factor that in when purchasing. Maybe a cheaper product with ability to throw in the bin is better.
Not having a dig, just my view of what I see
lots of people think that self repair is too much work, while others prefer it. Honestly, if self repair is beyond someone, then maybe they need to factor that in when purchasing. Maybe a cheaper product with ability to throw in the bin is better.
Not having a dig, just my view of what I see
DDont believe subjective opinions, some of these people who talk to such things don’t own a WW product and I see this alot, people echo chamber opinions over facts.
DSome even downright are abusive to Chinese products purely because of where they are manufactured
DI don’t agree with the government, but that doesn’t mean all their products are shit
PI own the VKB MCGU, KG12 grips & Gunfighter 3 base plus NXT & EVO's with space grips I will say VKB feels really well made & very nice quality, however I also own the Winwing Orion 2 f18 throttle & the switches & buttons feel really nice, the 5 way hat switches on the throttle grip are some of the nicest feeling & high quality HAT's I've used. I think the quality of Winwing is extremely good at least with the Orion 2 throttle, hopefully I'll have the WW F-18 stick grip soon too.
DThat's why I said I Heard and not i think
DOh, sorry, I didn’t mean to come across rough 
DI didn't take the message badly, I was just saying... In my broken English which must have implied
V:package: RHINO #0047 Has Shipped!
DOh dang!!! 3 to go
DHow long does it take to ship to Australia?
Phey m8 I can't quite remember but it was maybe 2 weeks or so, it wasn't like months or anything like that
D2 weeks sounds about normal
Pyeah it might of been a bit longer but it wasn't anything crazy
WShould take about 1-2 business days longer than US
WTo US if I ship on monday, it arrives on friday/saturday
WIf customs doesn't get in the way that is 
(very, very rare case)
(very, very rare case)DS’all good, if its less than 4 weeks
Pjust had a look mine took about 1 week
A
AYeah, that’s the obvious downside of them. Good range of products, but the custom service is severely lacking if something goes wrong
V:package: RHINO #0048 Has Shipped!
AIf you spend hundreds of dollars on high end products, “fix it yourself” should never be the reply you get from them when they’ve shipped you a broken product
DOh damn!!!
D2 to go
Awhile in principle i don't disagree, in practice, a lot of these companies that make high end artisanal stuff, are small, and then if you factor having to ship it back to them to fix, it's never going to be as seamless or fast as a major/global company, so having the ability to fix it yourself does make a big difference
WYeah, in my case, in EU it's no problem to get Rhino shipped back and forth to fix something, however for US, AUS for example it's best to supply the spare parts and support.
D100% agree
DThere is no way either of us are gonna wanna ship something, the more times a product travels, there are factors that could either damage or even lose the item
V:package: RHINO #0049 Has Shipped!
YRollin Rollin rawhide
AIt’s definitely mass production we’re talking about though. Shipping something with broken cables already from the factory is poor quality control, telling customers to fix products that are broken on delivery just isn’t on
SCan't believe I'm filling out rhino order form already 
K!stats
VHey @kruger1775,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0049 on 2023-02-15
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 129 days, median is 119 days, max is 209 days
47 Rhinos are shipped in total
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0049 on 2023-02-15
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 129 days, median is 119 days, max is 209 days
47 Rhinos are shipped in total
D1 to go 
IAlright, can anyone tell me the price of this thing with the bigger motors, because the FAQ is borderline unintelligible
Iedit; the section for kits and the section for a complete set is confusing as hell
Ifigured it out
TMine!