Thanks for all the replies guys! I'm regretting having that virpil extension on back order since Jan
Thanks for all the replies guys! I'm regretting having that virpil extension on back order since January now 
Pno need to regret it m8, I use the 200mm extension & I still feel enough force from it & still haven't put the master gain up past 90%. I can get the stick feeling really stiff for flying warbirds, of course without the extra leverage you'll feel a bit more, but I don't think it's enough of a difference to worry about m8
RI’ll be using a 35cm curbed extension for a helo sim pit. I know I’ll have plenty of throw. Only issue I see is wearing out belt and motors earlier.
JWhy would that wear out the belt and motor faster?
Phey m8, from what I understand the motors have no contacting parts & therefore should be extremely resistant to wear. Also with the size of the RHINO itself & the fact it's already pretty much got a small extension, maybe only like 50mm or so I'd be surprised if you needed a 35cm extension or that it could even be too high for your seat. Obviously you know more about your set up than me though 
Pmaybe thinking that having the extra leverage might give more potential for pulling too hard against the ffb
JWell, the force and therefore the wear on the belt is limited by the resistance the motor can put up, and that is limited by the Nm it can produce. That force does not change with a bigger extension.
Pright, well there you go nothing to worry about with wearing the motors any extra
Awell you might get away with lower settings and thus less stress if you had less leverage
Sif you dont mind me asking, which extension is this?
ReBay curved special.
RThe 35cm will be needed. Below the virpil base is a few inches and I’ll need to floor mount it. I may need to cut off an inch or less. Just need the rhino here to test fit. 
RYes aggressive movements are made when flying helicopters noe and during combat. So I don’t want to over stress the motors and belts etc when pushing against trim or ffb.
LThanks this was something I had not thought of. I pondered this all day; the curved shaft looks so cool, I need all the accuracy I can get if I'm ever going to succeed in aerial refueling and also my chair is an Ikea so I do need a bend. Buttkicker broke a metal part in the chair on Friday - my second chair destroyed by BK - so I could get a different one which I could modify. But then I would also have to redesign my K-51 collective mounting 
I mean I love building my cockpit but there is just too much going on rn 
. I think I'll make the front panel distance adjustable now. I can pull it back closer if I give up the extension later.
I mean I love building my cockpit but there is just too much going on rn . I think I'll make the front panel distance adjustable now. I can pull it back closer if I give up the extension later.
MYou're welcome. There's some great discussion on this above, like the bit with the F18. Deflections are measured in grip displacement, not angular displacement and it has half the forward travel as back. You can set the digital endstops wherever you like so you can properly tailor the throw to any setup.
High deflection angles also get challenging with grip angle, at the extents the ergonomy of button reaches is different than neutral. This is all stuff rl designers have to wrestle with.. the panel needs to be within reach when strapped in so controls geometry is chosen accordingly. This is why many planes have a notch cutout on the front of the seat, offset shafts etc.
High deflection angles also get challenging with grip angle, at the extents the ergonomy of button reaches is different than neutral. This is all stuff rl designers have to wrestle with.. the panel needs to be within reach when strapped in so controls geometry is chosen accordingly. This is why many planes have a notch cutout on the front of the seat, offset shafts etc.
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VHey @admiralnomura,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0052 on 2023-02-17
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 132 days, median is 138 days, max is 209 days
49 Rhinos are shipped in total
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0052 on 2023-02-17
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 132 days, median is 138 days, max is 209 days
49 Rhinos are shipped in total
Dhey does anyone else have issues with IL2 dropping FFB sometimes?
Dit just goes slack on me with the MSFFB2 Im running
WProbably overworking it
Dnot likely, it goes in DCS for hours without issue
Dits an il2 issue
Dil2 box*
V:package: RHINO #0053 Has Shipped! 
V:package: 
RHINO #0054 Has Shipped!
RHINO #0054 Has Shipped!
H1 more to go!
B10 Rhinos in 30 days now, impressive.
TAnd about 2 per day on weekdays the past week I think
TVery nice
V:package: 
RHINO #0055 Has Shipped!
RHINO #0055 Has Shipped!
VWith this pace, might even get to my number this year 
SHoly shit 1 more 
HHaha I even noticed days earlier reading thru these posts you were next!
SDid you order yours with a plate by any chance?
AShit, at this rate I’ll have to come up with those €800 much sooner than I’d have expected
HNah just all the adapters. I already had a monstertech plate made up beforehand.
B130 to go, lol
Ji think walmis said a lot of rhinos were waiting on an extra part he didn't have in stock, like the monstertech plate or grip specific adapter, which made them seem to fly off the shelf
VSo after clicking rescale axis I didnt notice a change in DCS and I also went into windows game controller settings but it still takes full deflection on X + Y to reach the end. The "endstops" feature where it creates force seems to be working however, just not the axis rescale... did I do anything wrong?
Vmashed send / store config 500 times
DAre there part files/BOM for those of us way down the list that might want to try our hands at building out own from the kit?
WIf it reaches the end of axis then it means working like it's supposed to 
WNew additional axis scaling will be in the next version
DCan you make the motors have a hard stop at a certain point? Or is that unachievable
DI.e. cannot go further even with force
WNope, that's not possible with motors, they have limited torque and limited control bandwidth (magnetic flux doesn't energize and dissipate instantly) so you can only come close to true hardware end stops.
DOk, thats what I had thought
V:package: 
RHINO #0056 Has Shipped!
RHINO #0056 Has Shipped!
KNow waiting for the other half til mine will be on its way 
AWas just about to say the same. Halfway there! 
TUnder half-way for me! I'm excited
