One parameter I know right away was missing especially in the Hornet was g loading on the stick. I'm

One parameter I know right away was missing especially in the Hornet was g loading on the stick. I'm sure there's a way to get it setup, but the more g you pull the heavier the stick should get. All fighters have that either physically or hydraulic

AndyHill•2/20/23, 12:11 PM

I want perfect realistic g-loading on my hornet, make it happen

gitbseOP•2/20/23, 12:17 PM

I'll need a centerfuge for that

AndyHill•2/20/23, 12:19 PM

cost doesn't matter as long as I don't have to pay for it

gitbseOP•2/20/23, 12:24 PM

Lol.

gitbseOP•2/20/23, 12:25 PM

I'm new to python and the programming side, but I work on aircraft IRL. I know my way around the systems and performance of the planes, just have to learn how to change things thru the telemetry software

Ggitbse One parameter I know right away was missing especially in the Hornet was g loadi...

walmis•2/20/23, 12:28 PM

also AoA - So we need to 3 parameters to play nice together - AoA, G and regular spring

AndyHill•2/20/23, 12:40 PM

It's ok if it's complicated as long as I don't have to do any of the problem solving

AndyHill•2/20/23, 12:41 PM

I just kind of feel that this would be a job for ED, though

gitbseOP•2/20/23, 12:52 PM

I'm going to start digging into the outputs after work tonight. I have alot to learn, but it's worth the time

gitbseOP•2/20/23, 1:02 PM

Is there any info on how to start? Should I look deeper back in this channel?

Wwalmis Can you post a screenshot of the telemetry window with that mod running?

PiNKSH!T•2/20/23, 1:19 PM

on Ground

PiNKSH!T•2/20/23, 1:19 PM

PiNKSH!T•2/20/23, 1:19 PM

paused in air

PiNKSH!T•2/20/23, 1:19 PM

PiNKSH!T•2/20/23, 1:19 PM

paused during flight

PiNKSH!T•2/20/23, 1:21 PM

also I'm using the loopback app, the keys on my stick bind to force trim ok, but I get no force trim in game with the Blackhawk mod heli

fastjet273•2/20/23, 8:26 PM

Hello everybody, is there any quick start guide for fs2020 with xpforce? I just bought the xp force licence but it doesn't generate any forces for the rhino. It detects it but it cannot control it. Any additional info is appreciated. Tnx

AndyHill•2/20/23, 10:53 PM

I have done a little bit of testing with it, but can't help much really

AndyHill•2/20/23, 10:53 PM

I think it comes with a reasonably ok manual, though

Ffastjet273 Hello everybody, is there any quick start guide for fs2020 with xpforce? I just ...

smitty•2/21/23, 3:31 AM

in your xpforce Config.xpfc i had to add the axes manually since it crashed anytime i tried to set them in the app. after that, it just works.

[VPforce Rhino FFB Joystick]
PitchAxis=Y Axis
RollAxis=X Axis
YawAxis=
SetTrimButton=
ClearTrimButton=
SetMasterButton=None

[VPforce Rhino FFB Joystick]
PitchAxis=Y Axis
RollAxis=X Axis
YawAxis=
SetTrimButton=
ClearTrimButton=
SetMasterButton=None

amadeus•2/21/23, 5:17 AM

Is it possible to mix in effects from the configuration software with existing ffb effects from say IL2?

amadeus•2/21/23, 5:18 AM

I.E. add a wee bit of friction

Aamadeus Is it possible to mix in effects from the configuration software with existing f...

walmis•2/21/23, 5:22 AM

Yup, you can mix in the settings for damper, inertia etc. into the game. Just set them in the configurator to your liking and they will be applied in game too.

amadeus•2/21/23, 5:24 AM

So if you want to keep the game’s effects clean, you should do which one?

1) uncheck all the effects
Or
2) turn all the general effect sliders to 0?

amadeus•2/21/23, 5:25 AM

(Trying to fully understand all the parts of the software

)

walmis•2/21/23, 5:28 AM

So in effects tab those are like augmented effects, that work if the game doesn't set them. And also additional stuff like endstops. In the settings tab, those sliders are global "volume" controls. So if the game has annoying rumble, etc, you can tune down those separately.

amadeus•2/21/23, 5:29 AM

Icic, so if IL2 sets friction, it would override mine? Or you fancy and mux?

walmis•2/21/23, 5:30 AM

So if you have damper at 100% in effects, and damper is 20% in settings, total damper output will be 20%

amadeus•2/21/23, 5:30 AM

Gotcha, makes sense

walmis•2/21/23, 5:30 AM

50% and 50% would be 25% etc

amadeus•2/21/23, 5:31 AM

I noticed be default, only spring was at 100%, probably best to have all those general sliders start at 100% right? And tune down if they feel wrong or off

amadeus•2/21/23, 5:33 AM

The other general thing I was wondering, has anyone created any interesting configs and shared them?

walmis•2/21/23, 5:34 AM

Try damper and inertia by increasing gradually, too much can cause instability or oscillations.

amadeus•2/21/23, 5:34 AM

I found friction at anything higher than 5-8% was causing oscillations

walmis•2/21/23, 5:34 AM

Yeah, I need to tune that a bit

amadeus•2/21/23, 5:34 AM

Which… felt wrong for friction? Maybe a bug?

walmis•2/21/23, 5:35 AM

It's hard to simulate friction with such a dynamic system

amadeus•2/21/23, 5:35 AM

Yeah, no doubt

amadeus•2/21/23, 5:36 AM

I’ve only really applied it to spring physics before

amadeus•2/21/23, 5:36 AM

Not as something wholly separate

walmis•2/21/23, 5:37 AM

I'll post a config for better friction tuning later

amadeus•2/21/23, 5:38 AM

I like it as a way to reduce oscillations

walmis•2/21/23, 5:40 AM

Damper is preferable to damp spring oscillations

ddrake1984•2/21/23, 5:44 AM

Could make a table for settings? Certain effects see section x and for certain (more specifica) effects see section x.y

amadeus•2/21/23, 5:45 AM

Oh one final question for now, after calibrating, and setting a spring, the joystick seems to return to center at 49% and 49%?

walmis•2/21/23, 5:48 AM

49? The best place to check is the telemetry data in the left side of VP configurator, it should come close to 0 for x and y

walmis•2/21/23, 5:49 AM

Also don't do windows calibration, reset to default if you did. That will definitely cause some strange issues down the road.

amadeus•2/21/23, 6:26 AM

Oh def did not do windows calibration, meant the rhino config app calibration

amadeus•2/21/23, 6:26 AM

The 49% I got from the VPC Joystick Tester tool

amadeus•2/21/23, 7:39 AM

What does Saturation pertain too in the different effects?

One parameter I know right away was missing especially in the Hornet was g loading on the stick. I'm

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