To run DCS for the Hornet or Apache, what default settings should I be using in the Configurator too

To run DCS for the Hornet or Apache, what default settings should I be using in the Configurator tool? Under Effects, should I have Spring checked or Forced Effect? What is Forced Effect? I know from reading some posts yesterday that I should keep my FFB settings to default in DCS

SwiftVengeance•2/23/23, 3:52 AM

you got ffb to work in il2?

WWeaselGX To run DCS for the Hornet or Apache, what default settings should I be using in ...

PiNKSH!T•2/23/23, 3:53 AM

Forced effect will overwrite any of that effect in game. The Settings tab are the 'Master Settings" the Effects tab are for the effects felt in game, so if you set spring to 100% in settings tab then in effects tab you set it to 50% the game/sim will be able to use a total spring strength of 50%

SwiftVengeance•2/23/23, 3:53 AM

I tried il2 and ffb wasn't working with my msffb2 joystick

SSwiftVengeance I tried il2 and ffb wasn't working with my msffb2 joystick

PiNKSH!T•2/23/23, 3:53 AM

silly question but, did you have IL2 ffb setting on?

SwiftVengeance•2/23/23, 3:53 AM

yes

SwiftVengeance•2/23/23, 3:53 AM

Im testing it out again right now

SwiftVengeance•2/23/23, 3:54 AM

I was very disapointed in il2

PiNKSH!T•2/23/23, 3:54 AM

I tried my logitech 3d force a few years ago in IL2 & it didn't work either, I never tried again though

SwiftVengeance•2/23/23, 3:54 AM

Oh I have that one

SwiftVengeance•2/23/23, 3:55 AM

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SwiftVengeance•2/23/23, 3:55 AM

This one yeah?

SSwiftVengeance I was very disapointed in il2

PiNKSH!T•2/23/23, 3:55 AM

IL2 with the Rhino has been awesom! Stick shake/rumble on taxi & take-off, rumble with gear & flaps down, AoA buffeting, gun fire rumble, heaps of effects are simulated

WeaselGXOP•2/23/23, 3:55 AM

Should I have spring effect enabled or use pure in game centering forces?

SwiftVengeance•2/23/23, 3:55 AM

Wow

SSwiftVengeance Oh I have that one

PiNKSH!T•2/23/23, 3:56 AM

mine looks the same as the 3d Pro, but a blue base color

SwiftVengeance•2/23/23, 3:56 AM

That was my experience with the bf109 in dcs

WWeaselGX Should I have spring effect enabled or use pure in game centering forces?

SwiftVengeance•2/23/23, 3:56 AM

Pure game

WWeaselGX Should I have spring effect enabled or use pure in game centering forces?

PiNKSH!T•2/23/23, 3:56 AM

I can share my 'global' Warbird config if you like? then just tweak from there?

WWeaselGX Should I have spring effect enabled or use pure in game centering forces?

PiNKSH!T•2/23/23, 3:58 AM

yeah for warbirds I have the spring at like 95% in settings tab & 100% in effects tab, it gives the heavy feeling for the fly-by-actual-wire feel

PPiNKSH!T I can share my 'global' Warbird config if you like? then just tweak from there?

WeaselGXOP•2/23/23, 3:59 AM

That would be great! Thank you

WeaselGXOP•2/23/23, 3:59 AM

I’m brand new to this … just got it connected tonight

PiNKSH!T•2/23/23, 3:59 AM

Also this is from Walmis on Saturation setting in effects tab; walmis — 02/21/2023 6:54 PM
saturation limits max force with the same slope
saturation at 0 is disabled, 100% means limit force value at 100% motor power, 50% limits the force at 50% motor power - etc.
Generally you don't need to touch it, unless you know what you're doing

I've also moved some settings to "advanced" in the development version, since some of the options add more confusion, than usefulness.

WWeaselGX I’m brand new to this … just got it connected tonight

PiNKSH!T•2/23/23, 4:02 AM

all good, whenever you change a setting, change it one at a time then hit 'Send Config' & test it out, you can get some odd behavior sometimes & you just need to change the setting back & maybe unplug & replug in the Rhino, always rember to keep you finder or foot close to the "Stop" button on the base jic

WeaselGXOP•2/23/23, 4:03 AM

Haha just had it oscillate weirdly when messing with the end stops

WWeaselGX That would be great! Thank you

PiNKSH!T•2/23/23, 4:03 AM

Warbird_Global.vpconf5.86KB

WWeaselGX Haha just had it oscillate weirdly when messing with the end stops

PiNKSH!T•2/23/23, 4:04 AM

yeah Walmis is still working on the endstops, but a quick reset will usually fix things

PiNKSH!T•2/23/23, 4:05 AM

also in the effects tab the 'Constant Force' setting is for people will things like off set throttle adapters like VKB's OMNI throttle adapter or the Virpil Z-axis one

amadeus•2/23/23, 4:06 AM

i just downloaded the demo for xpforce, and when i start it up, it causes the stick to like, rumble, (no sim is even running, i even tried turning all the effects and settings in the app to 0, but it still just rumbles/jiggles)

amadeus•2/23/23, 4:06 AM

anyone else know what that's about?

Aamadeus i just downloaded the demo for xpforce, and when i start it up, it causes the st...

PiNKSH!T•2/23/23, 4:08 AM

Sorry I don't have alot of experience with xpforce, I have it & it's worked fine for me with msfs2020 but I haven't used it for a few weeks

amadeus•2/23/23, 4:08 AM

weird :X

PiNKSH!T•2/23/23, 4:08 AM

hang on I got a second to turn xpforce on

amadeus•2/23/23, 4:09 AM

wondering if maybe the demo is bugged? thonk

PiNKSH!T•2/23/23, 4:09 AM

dam it!

PiNKSH!T•2/23/23, 4:09 AM

lol

PiNKSH!T•2/23/23, 4:10 AM

I forgot it launches msfs!

amadeus•2/23/23, 4:10 AM

lol

amadeus•2/23/23, 4:10 AM

yeah, i disabled that right quick

amadeus•2/23/23, 4:10 AM

but it does it even with MSFS running or not, for me

PiNKSH!T•2/23/23, 4:10 AM

yeah I got no rumble

amadeus•2/23/23, 4:11 AM

it's like it makes the stick REALLY stiff, and it enters a bit of a somewhat unstable feedback loop thonk

PiNKSH!T•2/23/23, 4:11 AM

& now my msfs went from being on the wrong monitor my second, to being no where! lol it looks like it's opening on a 3rd monitor to the left that I don't have!

amadeus•2/23/23, 4:11 AM

can you maybe export your rhino config?

amadeus•2/23/23, 4:11 AM

maybe i have my sliders in an incompatible spot

Aamadeus can you maybe export your rhino config?

PiNKSH!T•2/23/23, 4:12 AM

my Warbird Global is up a lil bit

amadeus•2/23/23, 4:12 AM

ahh, kk, i'll try that

PiNKSH!T•2/23/23, 4:12 AM

basically what I use for GA too

PiNKSH!T•2/23/23, 4:14 AM

hmmmm

PiNKSH!T•2/23/23, 4:14 AM

now when I launched msfs without xpforce it's on the right window

amadeus•2/23/23, 4:17 AM

aha, i think i've figured it out

To run DCS for the Hornet or Apache, what default settings should I be using in the Configurator too

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