PI tried my logitech 3d force a few years ago in IL2 & it didn't work either, I never tried again though
SOh I have that one
S
SThis one yeah?
PIL2 with the Rhino has been awesom! Stick shake/rumble on taxi & take-off, rumble with gear & flaps down, AoA buffeting, gun fire rumble, heaps of effects are simulated
WShould I have spring effect enabled or use pure in game centering forces?
SWow
Pmine looks the same as the 3d Pro, but a blue base color
SThat was my experience with the bf109 in dcs
SPure game
PI can share my 'global' Warbird config if you like? then just tweak from there?
Pyeah for warbirds I have the spring at like 95% in settings tab & 100% in effects tab, it gives the heavy feeling for the fly-by-actual-wire feel
WThat would be great! Thank you
WI’m brand new to this … just got it connected tonight
PAlso this is from Walmis on Saturation setting in effects tab; walmis — 02/21/2023 6:54 PM
saturation limits max force with the same slope
saturation at 0 is disabled, 100% means limit force value at 100% motor power, 50% limits the force at 50% motor power - etc.
Generally you don't need to touch it, unless you know what you're doing
I've also moved some settings to "advanced" in the development version, since some of the options add more confusion, than usefulness.
saturation limits max force with the same slope
saturation at 0 is disabled, 100% means limit force value at 100% motor power, 50% limits the force at 50% motor power - etc.
Generally you don't need to touch it, unless you know what you're doing
I've also moved some settings to "advanced" in the development version, since some of the options add more confusion, than usefulness.
Pall good, whenever you change a setting, change it one at a time then hit 'Send Config' & test it out, you can get some odd behavior sometimes & you just need to change the setting back & maybe unplug & replug in the Rhino, always rember to keep you finder or foot close to the "Stop" button on the base jic
WHaha just had it oscillate weirdly when messing with the end stops
PWarbird_Global.vpconf5.86KB
Pyeah Walmis is still working on the endstops, but a quick reset will usually fix things
Palso in the effects tab the 'Constant Force' setting is for people will things like off set throttle adapters like VKB's OMNI throttle adapter or the Virpil Z-axis one
Ai just downloaded the demo for xpforce, and when i start it up, it causes the stick to like, rumble, (no sim is even running, i even tried turning all the effects and settings in the app to 0, but it still just rumbles/jiggles)
Aanyone else know what that's about?
PSorry I don't have alot of experience with xpforce, I have it & it's worked fine for me with msfs2020 but I haven't used it for a few weeks
Aweird :X
Phang on I got a second to turn xpforce on
Awondering if maybe the demo is bugged? 
Pdam it!
Plol
PI forgot it launches msfs!
Alol
Ayeah, i disabled that right quick
Abut it does it even with MSFS running or not, for me
Pyeah I got no rumble
Ait's like it makes the stick REALLY stiff, and it enters a bit of a somewhat unstable feedback loop
P& now my msfs went from being on the wrong monitor my second, to being no where! lol it looks like it's opening on a 3rd monitor to the left that I don't have!
Acan you maybe export your rhino config?
Amaybe i have my sliders in an incompatible spot
Pmy Warbird Global is up a lil bit
Aahh, kk, i'll try that
Pbasically what I use for GA too
Phmmmm 
Pnow when I launched msfs without xpforce it's on the right window
Aaha, i think i've figured it out
Ayou have your friction percentage at 10%, if you crank that to 100%, and send to the device, you'll get the same issue i have (i think)
Athis goes back to an earlier issue i had -- where setting a very high friction cause a bit of stable instability wobble
A(like it won't get out of control, but it'll be consistent
Pso was it better with my 10% friction config or worse?
Aif you lower or turn off friction completely, it fixes the problem -- it's cause vpforce applies a bit of friction itself, that i think triggers the issue
Pahh ok, I'll se how I got, I might jump on msfs later & see how everything is
WYep this is a known issue. This is due to mechanical elasticity of the gimbal, belt tension etc. And I've added parameters to compensate this effect. I hope to get a new sw release out soon.