you have your friction percentage at 10%, if you crank that to 100%, and send to the device, you'll
you have your friction percentage at 10%, if you crank that to 100%, and send to the device, you'll get the same issue i have (i think)
Athis goes back to an earlier issue i had -- where setting a very high friction cause a bit of stable instability wobble
A(like it won't get out of control, but it'll be consistent
Pso was it better with my 10% friction config or worse?
Aif you lower or turn off friction completely, it fixes the problem -- it's cause vpforce applies a bit of friction itself, that i think triggers the issue
Pahh ok, I'll se how I got, I might jump on msfs later & see how everything is
WYep this is a known issue. This is due to mechanical elasticity of the gimbal, belt tension etc. And I've added parameters to compensate this effect. I hope to get a new sw release out soon.
WYep friction default settings are not quite optimal and do cause some oscillations. I'll work on this too for the next release.
Ahappy to beta test any firmwares that look into fixing the belt expansion stuff 
SIt worked
SWhat the heck
Pwhat your ffb in IL2?
SYeah
SMaybe they updated the game. I didnt change anything from last time I tested.
SI literally just hopped in and it was working
SMy only issue now is for some reason the plane is following me around in vr
SLike im moving my head forward and the whole plane moves forward
Pyou can fly the plane with your head 
Pdoes roll work?
WVR Tracking not working perhaps?
Por working too good
SIt fixed itself
PGotta love computers
Sso forced effect on all settings is equal to disabling ffb in dcs?
PWalmis would be better to answer this, but from my understanding the Effects tab settings are going to augment the native ffb & if you check forced effect it will overwrite the native ffb, so to answer your question, maybe. Sorry I'm still unclear myself on a few of the details
WYeah, Forced means it will use spring/etc settings from VPforce settings, and won't let the game override them.
The idea was to have hardware force trim and prevent the game from taking over the spring settings. i.e. firmware controls the virtual center (trim) instead of the game.
The idea was to have hardware force trim and prevent the game from taking over the spring settings. i.e. firmware controls the virtual center (trim) instead of the game.
WI'm thinking of renaming this option to "sticky" perhaps.
WHere's a diagram of the data flow: 
L@walmis do i need the powersupply to drive a fan, or is the USB enough?
WFans are driven from external power
Si really like the idea of a diagram but it would be nice to make the labels more noob friendly. Are internal effects what comes from the forced checkbox? where does the game telemetry enter-is it dynamic device? and why is that a pool? why is sine wave in dynamic device? there is also a checkbox for periodic effects in vpconfigurator-does this digram mean there are two sources of sine wave-the game and the firmware?
WIt would also be helpful to have the explanations as a pop up when hovering over the setting. Fortunately I think the default settings work great out of box for DCS.
WAlso is my understanding right that if I use just the Config tool and DCS, the only FFB effects I would get would be based on the FFB programmed into the particular aircraft — hence better FFB for F-14 vs the Hornet. If I want more FFB, I would need to use some telemetry export to convert that to FFB to the stick?
AThe way I understand it: internal effects are what you configure in the rhino app, dynamic are what come from the game. When they are greyed out, it’s because dynamic, by default, overrides internal. Therefore it means in this example, spring and damper come from the game and therefore ignore the internal setup effects. The forced enabled would basically stop this override from happening
AInertia and friction aren’t being applied from the game, so they continue to exist as configured in the rhino app
APeriodic effects are effects are like Sine — currently they can only come from the game
WThank you @amadeus … very clear explanations
ANpnp! We are all learning together 
WThe feel of the stick with FFB is quite a game changer. I love how there almost no stick pressure on the runway in the P51 but it becomes harder to move control surfaces when you pick up speed.
WI also liked how this works pretty much out of the box for Apache and Huey
WThe Configurator tool is pretty intimidating but I appreciate the flexibility
Sthat diagram needs to go in the manual google doc!
Sthe bf109k4 also feels great on the runway
KIs there a way to get the stick to fall forward realistically when you're just on the runway? For me, the stick just stays put whereever I move it (but still gets loading from propwash and on takeoff
RThat’s on the game simulating the weight of the elevators or any down spring in the linkage. Most aren’t doing that.
KThis is a competing product, but the presenter is saying that this is the game actually doing this - shown for both DCS and IL-2
https://youtu.be/jQm2SC3fW5g?t=390
I only have spring and damper enabled as per Walmis's set up.
I wonder if it is the damper preventing the stick from falling forward
https://youtu.be/jQm2SC3fW5g?t=390
I only have spring and damper enabled as per Walmis's set up.
I wonder if it is the damper preventing the stick from falling forward
YouTubeJust Fly It
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В этом ролике рассказываю вам о прототипе джойстика с обратной связью от Романа (Propeller). А также о том, что может нам дать фидбек в симуляторах и как с этим обстоит дело сейчас!
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В этом ролике рассказываю вам о прототипе джойстика с обратной связью от Романа (Propeller). А также о том, что может нам дать фидбек в симуляторах и как с этим обстоит дело сейчас!
Отдельное спасибо Роману за возможность быть первым "испытателем" его устройства!
Ktimestamped btw
RI mean, that just looks like stick weight pulling it forward.
RWhen I put my warthog F-16 on my Sidewinder rig it does that.
Kcheck at 7:35, it will fall forward even if he pulls it back first
Kmaking me think that it isn't just the weight