I don’t have anything set up yet so I can’t check for myself, but Is it possible for one of the two

I don’t have anything set up yet so I can’t check for myself, but Is it possible for one of the two auxiliary potentiometer spots on the board be configured to an axis in the software?

TTheAmazinGreat I don’t have anything set up yet so I can’t check for myself, but Is it possible...

walmis•2/24/23, 1:11 PM

Yeah it's possible

TheAmazinGreatOP•2/24/23, 1:22 PM

Awesome! I’m working on a DIY grip and figured I could add a pot if that was the case using a 6 pin DIN cable. 5 pins used for the shift register and the 6th pin used for pot signal.

walmis•2/24/23, 1:32 PM

If your DIY grip has an arduino inside, you can transfer analog axis via the shift-register data also

TheAmazinGreatOP•2/24/23, 2:02 PM

That would be awesome. Where can I find info on transferring analog data this way?

TheAmazinGreatOP•2/24/23, 2:05 PM

I’ve looked but not sure I am searching the right things.

TheAmazinGreatOP•2/24/23, 2:08 PM

Do the analog axis input to the shift register or the Arduino? I could see where the Arduino acts as a way to combine analog input from the source and the digital input from the shift register into a single output to the VPForce board. But is it a different way?

walmis•2/24/23, 2:28 PM

Basically you would need to implement a SPI slave

walmis•2/24/23, 2:30 PM

You can then transfer buttons in the first 64bits and 4 axis in the higher 64bits, 4x16bit signed integers.

walmis•2/24/23, 2:31 PM

so 16 bytes in total

TheAmazinGreatOP•2/24/23, 2:35 PM

Thanks! I will look into that some more and appreciate the help!

TheAmazinGreatOP•2/24/23, 2:37 PM

I’ve never done anything with SPI before, do I need to worry about breaking or frying anything on the VPForce board if I give it the wrong SPI signals? (Assuming V+ and GND are properly connected)

walmis•2/24/23, 2:41 PM

nope

walmis•2/24/23, 2:41 PM

You have the kit, right? I'll make you a FFB owner

walmis•2/24/23, 2:43 PM

https://gist.github.com/chrismeyersfsu/3317769

Gist

Arduino SPI Slave

Arduino SPI Slave. GitHub Gist: instantly share code, notes, and snippets.

gitbse•2/24/23, 2:48 PM

What are the three pin connectors on the pcb board called? I'm adding pots to my build but need to order the connectors.

gitbse•2/24/23, 2:48 PM

Are they jst's?

TheAmazinGreatOP•2/24/23, 2:49 PM

Yep, got my kit yesterday! Super impressed with everything! Thank you so much for all the help!!

Ggitbse Are they jst's?

walmis•2/24/23, 2:50 PM

yep, jst-xh

gitbse•2/24/23, 11:44 PM

@smitty#5756 hey, I was looking at those gear reduction planetaries you listed. Is there a huge benefit to using those? I would imagine it allows the motors to spin alot further for the same amount of stick deflection.

gitbse•2/24/23, 11:44 PM

Does that allow different force outputs? Or maybe a more "accurate" force?

RustBelt•2/25/23, 1:35 AM

I think they up torque motor spins faster producing more total power, gear reduction slows the rotation down so power equation result raises the torque.

skyPickle•2/25/23, 1:14 PM

I made a first effort on the manual. Have a look and add what you can. Btw, what are the four empty boxes around the trim setting for?

SskyPickle I made a first effort on the manual. Have a look and add what you can. Btw, what...

walmis•2/25/23, 1:53 PM

Thanks.
In case you haven't discovered yet, if you hover mouse on some controls you will get a tooltip.

walmis•2/25/23, 1:54 PM

Currently also working on documenting stuff in the app itself, for example:

skyPickle•2/25/23, 5:08 PM

is there a place we could list the dcs bugs that give weird FFB behavior? For example, curves applied to pitch and roll give weird behavior in the Huey and the F5E

Wwalmis Currently also working on documenting stuff in the app itself, for example:

amadeus•2/25/23, 5:31 PM

Hype! New update sneak peak! How’s it deal with belt stretch with higher forces?

Aamadeus Hype! New update sneak peak! How’s it deal with belt stretch with higher forces?

walmis•2/25/23, 5:32 PM

Not an issue any more

amadeus•2/25/23, 5:33 PM

Oh I was curious if it’s a setting you have to configure. Either way tho, can’t wait for the update!

walmis•2/25/23, 5:34 PM

Yeah it's configurable, but I have rough default values for Rhino

walmis•2/25/23, 5:34 PM

Kit owners will have different settings for their mechanics

amadeus•2/25/23, 5:34 PM

Like you do a calibrate axis with some constant forces applied?

amadeus•2/25/23, 5:35 PM

Then it can figure out deltas mathematically?

walmis•2/25/23, 5:36 PM

It's a bit more crude for the initial release

walmis•2/25/23, 5:37 PM

You basically calibrate as usual and then increase the compensation value until it reaches the logical axis edge while under spring force

amadeus•2/25/23, 5:38 PM

Ahh

walmis•2/25/23, 5:39 PM

but works great!

amadeus•2/25/23, 5:44 PM

Yee! Hopefully release soon?

happy to beta test if you need anyone too

amadeus•2/25/23, 5:48 PM

i've noticed every time i plug in the rhino, a little interesting notification appears, is there a way to disable that? i've had windows derp and sometimes get it stuck, and i can't dismiss it

walmis•2/25/23, 5:58 PM

Webusb notification?

amadeus•2/25/23, 5:59 PM

yeah that might be it

walmis•2/25/23, 5:59 PM

It's from the browser - Edge, Chrome?

amadeus•2/25/23, 6:05 PM

Stoned Kakapo•2/25/23, 7:50 PM

Stupid question, but how do you get DCS to send input to vp force app? I was looking on the debug loaded effects but nothing shows up. So not receiving any shaking effects or trim. Vpforce app works just fine though on its own (loving the motors)

amadeus•2/25/23, 8:21 PM

Miiight depend on the module you’re using?

Aamadeus Miiight depend on the module you’re using?

Stoned Kakapo•2/25/23, 8:23 PM

I've been using the spitfire, huey, and f5 so far. I'm pretty sure I'm using the app incorrectly

amadeus•2/25/23, 8:26 PM

spitfire def has some force feedback, but it was implemented pretty poorly from my tests. Screenshot of how you have things configured? The effects tab and the one with the sliders for effects

SskyPickle is there a place we could list the dcs bugs that give weird FFB behavior? For ex...

Magpie•2/25/23, 8:37 PM

What’s weird about the f5?

Aamadeus <a:thonk:975806299335983177> spitfire def has some force feedback, but it was im...

Stoned Kakapo•2/25/23, 8:41 PM

Stoned Kakapo•2/25/23, 8:42 PM

Other things I've tried so far: move files to a folder rather than keeping it on the rar file, and running vpforce in admin mode

amadeus•2/25/23, 8:43 PM

Why are all your buttons showing as activated at once?

I don’t have anything set up yet so I can’t check for myself, but Is it possible for one of the two

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