SI've been using the spitfire, huey, and f5 so far. I'm pretty sure I'm using the app incorrectly
A
spitfire def has some force feedback, but it was implemented pretty poorly from my tests. Screenshot of how you have things configured? The effects tab and the one with the sliders for effects
MWhat’s weird about the f5?
SOther things I've tried so far: move files to a folder rather than keeping it on the rar file, and running vpforce in admin mode
AWhy are all your buttons showing as activated at once?
ANot all, but a bunch anyways
SI'm not sure, it's the TM f18 grip
SI do use simshaker for my jetseat and buttkicker, not sure if that has anything to do with feedback not being received from dcs
AWtf, that screenshot didn’t work lol
AGrip Type — find your grip and set it there
SWill do! Just checked, just VPC grips are there, also ww adapter
SI'll try generic grip debug though
Swhen curves are applied, the center point of the stick is off
AYour stuff looks like it’s configured fine tho, the only thing I would probably go through is just like, disable all effects, crank all the sliders to 100, and test… for me tho, force feedback in DCS just worked
SAh ok! Like go to in effects and untick all the boxes? And also, the force effect 2nd box underneath, that's just for vpforce to override any game input, right? Thank you very much for the help and suggestions by the way!
LAlso check that you enabled Force Feedback in DCS
SYep, made sure it was on at first and then off, for the huey and f5 anyway. I'm about to try it with all the effects off
SWow I'm dumb, I didn't even know there was a ffb option in the option menu, I thought it was only through the special tab for individual modules. My old ffb stick, I used an app that would override dcs, figures. Thank you for making me double check my options 
SEverything works as it should now!!
Syes the gearboxes at 10:1 allow for much higher forces at the grip than the 5:1 (? not sure what exact pulley ratio is) belt system. 35deg full throw translates to 350 degrees of the motor is used. Any more and the encoder gets stupid and if you switch it on at the endpoint it will think its on the next rotation. so keeping it under 360 works great. these are ultra low backlash servo gearboxes, i tried some cheapo ones first and it jus felt sloppy. plus they have a beefy bearing in them to act as at least one of the gimbal axes. i dont have it fully built yet but just bench testing with the flight stick in one axis felt wonderful
YGearboxes without backlash would give a more precise feel than transferring through a rubber band. It's something the simracer guys have learned. They are more expensive and the sim has to provide enough detail for it to be worthwhile though.
I have high hopes for smitty's setup.
I have high hopes for smitty's setup.
Si wouldnt say belts are rubber bands haha they can be plenty stiff with kevlar reinforcements but the ratio im going for wouldnt be practical with pulleys
YI know. I was definitely exaggerating for effect. There is some belt play as shown by Walmis compensating for it.
I think the 10:1 ratio you are going for is possible with a belt but the pulley is getting really large at that point.
I think the 10:1 ratio you are going for is possible with a belt but the pulley is getting really large at that point.
FHey I got the vpforce with monsterech mount ; what fasteners do I want to attach the two?
WRegular M5 bolts will do the trick
FThanks 
PHey guys does anyone have experience with HID hide? I've hit the 8 peripheral limit in IL2 & I want to use the VPforce loopback app & HID hide to make my vkb grip & the Rhino base show as one & IL2 not to see my VKB independently. Any help would be great, cheers
AOk, interesting bug I came across -- in Team Speak -- I can't assign any rhino buttons to hotkeys. It's like they somehow don't register a press up event or something? hard for me to explain, but i basically can't setup any push to talk binds in team speak using joystick buttons attached to the rhino. When I press the button to record a press, the gray box appears, and when i press a button on the rhino, either one of two things will happen: nothing will register, or if something does register, it won't dismiss the dialog, requiring me to press another button (like mouse button or a keyboard button that then turns it into a combo
JHad you tried a workaround of setting the button in question to function as a key on your keyboard?
AMy current workaround has been to map it to a button on my virpil throttle for now
DMap to Voicattack and Map back
Mjust sent the !info to VPforcebot but it says my email cannot be found?
WI think you mistyped your email
MI did, thanks for pointing that out.
Syeh i tried it but turning it on/off was intrusive - instead i got a usb hub with a single on off switch and plugged my cougar flight panels and homemade arduino boxes into it. now before flying IL2, i can quickly and easily switch off a bunch of controllers
Pyeah only trouble is I have 9 thigs I want plugged in for IL2, so just want to couple the vkb grip with the Rhino then hide the grip from IL2 as a standalone grip
IHave you looked into using vJoy and Joystick Gremlin?
Pno I never really looked into them, can I use them to combine multiple peripherals into one?
II believe so yes.
IYouTubeRedLir Live
In this video we walk through the basic setup and configuration of Joystick Gremlin, including HidHide and VJOY. We'll give you the break down on how to hide physical joysticks from a game and consolidate them down to virtual joysticks, mouse & keyboard.
VJOY ► https://github.com/jshafer817/vJoy/releases
HIDHIDE► https://github.com/ViGEm/Hid...
VJOY ► https://github.com/jshafer817/vJoy/releases
HIDHIDE► https://github.com/ViGEm/Hid...
Ayes
Pwell it's almost 3am for me so I'm off to bed, but I'll check that out tomorrow & see if it's what I need, thanks heap
INo problem GL.
AWhat does this entail? Although of course, ideally, it's probably properly fixed with something in the Rhino firmware? It's weird cause no other game or app has any problem with the Rhino (TrackIR is fine, all the sims I've played are fine, Discord shortcut support with a controller works fine..., Joystick Gremlin works fine....)
(TrackIR is fine, all the sims I've played are fine, Discord shortcut support with a controller works fine..., Joystick Gremlin works fine....)S
fellow teamspeak userAbegrudging team speak user :p
Syep i do this too, make a vjoy device with all the axes and buttons, and then in gremlin you can map multiple physical devices to it. gremlin also has the HID hide thing built in so you can set it up in there.
SWe've got the superior audio codec, we've got that going for us bright side
bright side