EEh...Fly by wire system is have a effect from FFB base or not?
PIn principle, you wouldn't feel much on FBW stick, since it's completely disjoint mechanically from the actual control surfaces
PBut some airplanes have basically ffb system to feed back some of those effects into the stick, to give you another way of "feeling" the airplane
PStall shakers come to mind
PThough I think those were a thing even in pre-FBW era 
PSo, in essence, the amount and specific type of effects depends on airplane and model. For DCS purposes - owners can tell you more how it stacks up. I think there's very little if any effects in FBW modules.
PBut then you can add some through walmis' software, right?
Dyeah
Dworks as intended, thank you
Dif you decide to write a sub-program for it so we can tweak the settings, but that's not high on priority
D@magpiee this is a good program for you, no need for all the python stuff
Dnow you can finally enjoy all the extra effects with me 
MOh cool
SMeant to say it's perfectly fine* I don't have a pic right now, but here's a vid of me testing trimming on the huey. You can see the belt near my thigh, but in no way rubbing on it or getting caught
MUmmm what’s that on your thigh?
JLooks like a kneeboard with a gaming keypad
SIt's a razer taurus velcroed to my kneeboard. I have views, VR zoom, mouse buttons, george/petro/jester AI commands, scroll wheel, and other helpful stuff for vr, mapped to it
MVery cool idea
SThank you! Needed a solution to get all these extra commands, without having to waste buttons on my hotas or other switches.
WPushed v1.0.14 update 
MInvert and 4 way hats, legend!
PHow does the 4-way hat feature work?
WIt removes the diagonals
JGreat idea, I switched to a track ball mouse by the joystick after chasing too many mice onto the floor in VR. Tried a left handed one, didn't work with my right hand brain.
WSeveral unfortunately. But I do love being able to swap between helis, jets and GA. They are also very strong, so creating artificial endstops is quite convincing.
Pdo you get rudder stiffening in warbirds? Autopilot pedal movement in Mi24 (as an example):?
WLOL, I take offence at that! 
Maybe it's the angle, but they really aren't that bad. I would rather they were silver though, like their yoke.
Maybe it's the angle, but they really aren't that bad. I would rather they were silver though, like their yoke.
Pso you're saying you enjoy them
Afirmware update day! hype!
DCould I see side view pictures of a video of your chair and how you have it setup to the desk?
Looks like your setup is much closer to the way my is setup currently where you have the stick vice gripped to the desk.
I have mine currently mounted like their stock photo here from Foxx Mount
Note: quite honestly from your video, it seems if I really want to I can just put something to cover it if I really want, shouldn't be tough.
Looks like your setup is much closer to the way my is setup currently where you have the stick vice gripped to the desk.
I have mine currently mounted like their stock photo here from Foxx Mount
Note: quite honestly from your video, it seems if I really want to I can just put something to cover it if I really want, shouldn't be tough.
WFor the money, I have to!
Phaha, yeah, there's like two thousand reasons saying it's good, lol
M@walmis is the grip interface and your board able to process rotary encoder pulses as some of the allotted buttons? Would be pretty sweet to be able to natively use the Alps 'funky switch' or other encoders on grips
ROther than the F-16 with it’s load sensor fingertip side stick, all FBW has a control load feedback system. Heck hydraulically de-coupled systems like the F-14 even have them. Feel systems are vital to aircraft control. So stuff like the F/A-18 should have pitch load feedback. Heck they had to put the stick mount for the F-16 on rubber so it would have some give to it, because pilots found it way too weird that the stick had no movement at all.
MSo does the f18 have pitch load feedback? And should the stick move with the trim? Cos it doesn't in dcs
RYou’d have to check the NATOPS for what it should have. I’m a Tomcat only dork. Wagnermobile ain’t my thing.
MTell me more about tomcat stick feel
MHow's the decoupling work
RJust checked hornet just lists “spring load cartridges” and pitch center change in mechanical reversion. So They seem to just have progressive springs, not even a damper
RTomcat uses push rod linkage that runs from the stick to hydraulic control valves at the actuator.
RFeel is managed by a spring system a trim adjustment linkage, a feel system that varies loads on the push rod linkage, an eddy current damper to resist excessive sudden movement of the stick, and a bob weight that pulls the stick nose down the more g load you put on the plane.
MAh ok. Sometimes when I'm dogfighting I reach for a negative g roll. Sometimes when I push for negative g it feels like there's almost no force opposing the stick. Would that be the feel system?
RYes. Unloading the tomcat takes most of the loads off the control linkage it’s actually the recommended way to make quick actions. No energy wasted on lift so all of it can go to pitch roll and yaw changes
RYou still have the eddy current damper to prevent you from violently slamming the control valves and actuators around too hard.
RBut Bob weight is out of the picture on its negative G stops, and load system for pitch isn’t doing much full stick deflection forward.
RIt’s for fingertip precision flying not big movemrnts
RSo you’re just fighting spring tension and the blood trying to all escape out your head
RIt’s ergonomically a lot harder to push over than pull back.
MAh that explains it well, thanks
Yeah I saw him pushing the stick far forward and to the left in the speed and angels doco so the next time I was in the tomcat I tried that. It took a while to work out when it was useful but it's fun to do
Yeah I saw him pushing the stick far forward and to the left in the speed and angels doco so the next time I was in the tomcat I tried that. It took a while to work out when it was useful but it's fun to do