i am experiencing a problem running the wgpu examples at https://github.com/dotnet/Silk.NET/tree/mai

i am experiencing a problem running the wgpu examples at https://github.com/dotnet/Silk.NET/tree/main/src/Lab/Experiments

the

libwgpu_native.so

libwgpu_native.so

libwgpu_native.so

libwgpu_native.so file is copied to the

runtimes/*/libwgpu_native.so

runtimes/*/libwgpu_native.so

runtimes/*/libwgpu_native.so

runtimes/*/libwgpu_native.so folder, but the webgpu backend can only find it if i copy it manually to the root of the build folder

errore for reference:

Unhandled exception. System.IO.FileNotFoundException: Could not load from any of the possible library names! Please make sure that the library is installed and in the right place!
   at Silk.NET.WebGPU.WebGPU.CreateDefaultContext(String[] n)
   at Silk.NET.WebGPU.WebGPU.GetApi()

Unhandled exception. System.IO.FileNotFoundException: Could not load from any of the possible library names! Please make sure that the library is installed and in the right place!
   at Silk.NET.WebGPU.WebGPU.CreateDefaultContext(String[] n)
   at Silk.NET.WebGPU.WebGPU.GetApi()

Unhandled exception. System.IO.FileNotFoundException: Could not load from any of the possible library names! Please make sure that the library is installed and in the right place!
   at Silk.NET.WebGPU.WebGPU.CreateDefaultContext(String[] n)
   at Silk.NET.WebGPU.WebGPU.GetApi()

Unhandled exception. System.IO.FileNotFoundException: Could not load from any of the possible library names! Please make sure that the library is installed and in the right place!
   at Silk.NET.WebGPU.WebGPU.CreateDefaultContext(String[] n)
   at Silk.NET.WebGPU.WebGPU.GetApi()

GitHub

Silk.NET/src/Lab/Experiments at main · dotnet/Silk.NET

The high-speed OpenGL, OpenCL, OpenAL, OpenXR, GLFW, SDL, Vulkan, Assimp, WebGPU, and DirectX bindings library your mother warned you about. - Silk.NET/src/Lab/Experiments at main · dotnet/Silk.NET

Lyris the Kitori•4/10/23, 7:14 AM

when building projects that reference other projects by files, libs arent copied around properly

Lyris the Kitori•4/10/23, 7:14 AM

its a dotnet thing

Lyris the Kitori•4/10/23, 7:14 AM

theres no fix

Lyris the Kitori•4/10/23, 7:14 AM

just copy it manually

cucumisOP•4/10/23, 7:14 AM

ok :/

cucumisOP•4/10/23, 7:14 AM

thanks

Ccucumis i am experiencing a problem running the wgpu examples at https://github.com/dotn...

Lyris the Kitori•4/10/23, 7:23 AM

also those arent examples, if you read the README file in src/Lab/

Lyris the Kitori•4/10/23, 7:23 AM

those arent examples

cucumisOP•4/10/23, 7:24 AM

oops my bad

Lyris the Kitori•4/10/23, 7:24 AM

we dont have dedicated WebGPU examples/tutorials at the moment

cucumisOP•4/10/23, 7:25 AM

i already know wgpu from rust so i wanted to look around to see how it looks in silk.net

Lyris the Kitori•4/10/23, 7:26 AM

https://github.com/Beyley/CubeTest
i have a small 3d rendering project here you can take a look at

GitHub

GitHub - Beyley/CubeTest: lil 3d rendering test in WebGPU with Silk...

lil 3d rendering test in WebGPU with Silk.NET. Contribute to Beyley/CubeTest development by creating an account on GitHub.

cucumisOP•4/10/23, 7:26 AM

(i dont really like rust that much i'd rather use c#)

Lyris the Kitori•4/10/23, 7:26 AM

https://github.com/Beyley/CubeTest/blob/master/CubeTest/World/WorldGraphics.cs
this is where most of the magic happens

cucumisOP•4/10/23, 7:27 AM

you truly are the GOAT thank you

Aurumaker72•4/10/23, 8:50 AM

Hi, the deltaTimedeltaTime values received in the silk window's RenderRender event are abnormally low

Aurumaker72•4/10/23, 8:50 AM

I might be misinterpreting what the double provided by the RenderRender event actually is, but it does seem to be t/s since last frame

Aurumaker72•4/10/23, 8:53 AM

Nope, nevermind. It's in milliseconds, alright.

Perksey•4/10/23, 9:20 AM

I swear they’re definitely in seconds

Perksey•4/10/23, 9:22 AM

Yep definitely seconds

Cchairclr this seems to be an issue with your vertex normals..? being incorrect? thats my ...

Machinarius•4/10/23, 1:00 PM

You were right. I was using a mesh with UV data instead of normal data. Late-night coding is one hell of a drug

malstraem•4/10/23, 3:30 PM

does anyone have experience successfully separating rendering and presentation in vulkan? i want to render to a single framebuffer and copy the rendered image to another acquired from swapchain. Is it possible?

Hololula•4/11/23, 9:05 AM

Is it possible to create Vulkan viewport on MAUI Panel?

CeSun•4/11/23, 11:41 AM

wait for webgl~

CeSun•4/11/23, 11:46 AM

Are there any experts on opengl es for android？

CeSun•4/11/23, 11:47 AM

I ported my pc-side renderer to the Android platform, and encountered a problem: the screen is completely black. I tried to use renderdoc to capture the frame and found that the output vertex data of the vertex shader could not be obtained.

CeSun•4/11/23, 11:48 AM

CeSun•4/11/23, 11:48 AM

CeSun•4/11/23, 11:48 AM

shader and vertex

Filiph Siitam Sandström•4/13/23, 12:38 PM

Any good high-level graphics libraries to recommend? Even as a kernel developer this is just way too low level.
Like if I want to draw a cube it should be a simple as api.DrawCube(size, pos, texture)api.DrawCube(size, pos, texture), things like vertices, indices should just be abstracted away

Furball•4/13/23, 2:53 PM

monogame or something

Furball•4/13/23, 2:53 PM

opengl isnt that low level tbh

Furball•4/13/23, 2:53 PM

shouldve seen vulkan

FFiliph Siitam Sandström Any good high-level graphics libraries to recommend? Even as a kernel developer ...

KinsonDigital•4/13/23, 3:32 PM

https://www.monogame.net/ for 3D and 2D and https://github.com/KinsonDigital/Velaptor for 2D are great options.

Though of course it sounds like you are only doing 3D

GitHub

GitHub - KinsonDigital/Velaptor: 2D game and media application deve...

2D game and media application development framework - GitHub - KinsonDigital/Velaptor: 2D game and media application development framework

KinsonDigital•4/13/23, 3:32 PM

shameless plug LOL

KinsonDigital•4/13/23, 3:33 PM

monogame is great though

FFurball opengl isnt that low level tbh

Filiph Siitam Sandström•4/13/23, 3:36 PM

I mean it's low level in terms of math. Development shouldn't usually require a vast understanding of trigonometry etc. Then again I'm coming from this with the perspective of a software engineer and not a game developer

KKinsonDigital https://www.monogame.net/ for 3D and 2D and https://github.com/KinsonDigital/Vel...

Filiph Siitam Sandström•4/13/23, 3:37 PM

Adorable mascot

Furball•4/13/23, 3:40 PM

yeah in game dev it is definetly used more

KinsonDigital•4/13/23, 3:44 PM

yeah...monogame has been around for a very long time

KinsonDigital•4/13/23, 3:44 PM

velaptor is in preview and still has work to do. You can totally build games with it but there are some tools to create and make things a little easier and it is not fully cross platform yet

KinsonDigital•4/13/23, 3:45 PM

but it is very active since I work on it full time

FFiliph Siitam Sandström Any good high-level graphics libraries to recommend? Even as a kernel developer ...

Lyris the Kitori•4/13/23, 7:07 PM

theres surprisingly little in terms of stuff like "draw cube here" due to how 3d rendering works, even high level abstractions like monogame still require you to manage verts and indices for 3d

Howie•4/13/23, 7:08 PM

If you don't mind Javscript/Typescript, Three.JS and Babylon.JS are both pretty cool

Howie•4/13/23, 7:08 PM

They are really high level

FFiliph Siitam Sandström I mean it's low level in terms of math. Development shouldn't usually require a ...

Lyris the Kitori•4/13/23, 7:09 PM

you dont need to truly understand the complexities of the math to use them to draw models and stuff (god knows i dont, i just know the bare minimum, and i can get by)

HHowie If you don't mind Javscript/Typescript, Three.JS and Babylon.JS are both pretty ...

Lyris the Kitori•4/13/23, 7:11 PM

but yeah for stuff that high level, JS libs, and large engines like unity are where youll find that

Howie•4/13/23, 7:12 PM

It's pretty rewarding to make your own cube close to the metal, though!

khitiara•4/13/23, 7:14 PM

aye

khitiara•4/13/23, 7:14 PM

and yeah if you want to just go draw a cube here youll probably need either unity, unreal, or some javascript thing

i am experiencing a problem running the wgpu examples at https://github.com/dotnet/Silk.NET/tree/mai

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