just have to say this after getting to test the rhino for an hour today after getting it last week:

just have to say this after getting to test the rhino for an hour today after getting it last week: no idea how realistic my settings are, but having to use both hands to pull up a plane in msfs in certain situations is just awesome, great immersion

Troll 🇸🇪 🇳🇴•4/23/23, 6:54 AM

Is anybody using their Rhino with the Next Level Boeing flightsim cockpit? Interested to see how you mounted it…

Will3D•4/23/23, 8:51 AM

Been away for a while. is there any update on the telemetry for MSFS ? cheers

Bboss808450 just have to say this after getting to test the rhino for an hour today after ge...

superbird1011•4/23/23, 11:52 AM

I only worry that itll make my Honeycomb yoke feel like a toy!

Ssuperbird1011 I only worry that itll make my Honeycomb yoke feel like a toy!

PiNKSH!T•4/23/23, 1:29 PM

funny you say that, mine has taken a backseat since getting the Rhino

PiNKSH!T•4/23/23, 1:29 PM

I'm guessing it'll end up becoming a ffb yoke with a VPforce kit eventually

WWill3D Been away for a while. is there any update on the telemetry for MSFS ? cheers

leninjahd•4/23/23, 1:54 PM

walmis is working on it

TonyM•4/23/23, 4:30 PM

Anyone with feedback on the Brunner FFB pedals?
Thinking of these pedals together with the Rhino.

TTonyM Anyone with feedback on the Brunner FFB pedals? Thinking of these pedals togethe...

Will3D•4/23/23, 6:24 PM

What do you want to know ? Mine work great and very strong. But sadly no feedback of course. More likely to get feedback from Walmis' telemetry hacks in the future with a home built pedal than for Brunner to implement something. But they are built well and work well.

WWill3D What do you want to know ? Mine work great and very strong. But sadly no feedbac...

TonyM•4/23/23, 6:32 PM

What do you mean no FFB? I thought that the Brunner pedals were giving FFB…like for their flight stick.

TTonyM What do you mean no FFB? I thought that the Brunner pedals were giving FFB…like ...

Will3D•4/23/23, 6:33 PM

What I mean is nothing from any games.

Will3D•4/23/23, 6:34 PM

If the information was there it would be different. Hence my comment about Walmis' telemetry hack. But it's only for the joystick at this time. But I'm sure it could incorporate yaw effects in the future.

WWill3D If the information was there it would be different. Hence my comment about Walmi...

TonyM•4/23/23, 6:40 PM

Wow, …I almost ordered the Brunner pedals and also given their price I would have been mad to see that they are not giving any FFB from the rudder etc…

In that case I will keep my MFG Crosswinds w/ damper and the Buttkicker Advance that I have attached to it…..and hopefully in the future we will have some FFB pedals from Walmis or some hack from his software for the Brunner pedals….

Thanks for the info!!!

TTonyM Wow, …I almost ordered the Brunner pedals and also given their price I would hav...

Will3D•4/23/23, 7:12 PM

Yes, I was disappointed at the lack of feedback also. They aren't cheap. But I feel it is just a software limitation. I think in the future a DIY solution could easily surpass them.

WWill3D Yes, I was disappointed at the lack of feedback also. They aren't cheap. But I f...

TonyM•4/23/23, 7:57 PM

yes maybe send email and emails and emails etc…to Brunner…At this price point they should implement the FFB in their pedals. But having lived and worked in Switzerland I know how fast they implement changes unfortunately. Their business is also more B2B oriented as B2C so that their business customers are more important to them. Anyway I hope they will implement the FFB in their pedals or even better Walmis makes a hack for these.

TTonyM Wow, …I almost ordered the Brunner pedals and also given their price I would hav...

kingjamez•4/24/23, 1:22 AM

I’m really hoping for a clever Walmis motor to crosswinds adapter. I can’t figure it out yet, but that would be a very quick path to an amazing system. Overall I prefer the form factor of a TPR but the crosswinds offers such excellent value mechanically, if a way to retro fit with a motor could be made it would be super slick.

Kkingjamez I’m really hoping for a clever Walmis motor to crosswinds adapter. I can’t figur...

TonyM•4/24/23, 2:04 AM

Yes 1000% correct!

Kkingjamez I’m really hoping for a clever Walmis motor to crosswinds adapter. I can’t figur...

smitty•4/24/23, 2:33 AM

Cables!

VPforceBot•4/24/23, 6:34 AM

:package:

RHINO #0083 Has Shipped!

Ssmitty Cables!

TonyM•4/24/23, 6:50 AM

Great idea!
How do you control the FFB on your pedals?

Ssmitty Cables!

PiNKSH!T•4/24/23, 6:51 AM

Dude wtf! Talk to me mighty one, tell me of your wisdom!

PiNKSH!T•4/24/23, 6:51 AM

are toe brakes possible too?

PiNKSH!T•4/24/23, 7:08 AM

I wonder if it could be done, if load cells on the toe brakes would be just as good as ffb? even a cheap dampener mod would make these feel better.

PPiNKSH!T 🤔 I wonder if it could be done, if load cells on the toe brakes would be just ...

aniron•4/24/23, 11:09 AM

Hegykc of Replika gear used to sell these kits.

Kkingjamez I’m really hoping for a clever Walmis motor to crosswinds adapter. I can’t figur...

aniron•4/24/23, 11:16 AM

3d printed pulley in place of damper mount, attached with the same screws as the damper adapter, perhaps?

Motor front or aft of the fulcrum as required.

TTonyM Great idea! How do you control the FFB on your pedals?

smitty•4/24/23, 11:30 AM

currently with xpforce but looking forward to the msfs version of telemFFB

PPiNKSH!T Dude wtf! Talk to me mighty one, tell me of your wisdom!

smitty•4/24/23, 12:09 PM

i posted a short video and parts list a ways back here https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/972180323787997255/1054645204931588177
toe brakes are still handled by the pedals usb/springs/pots

Ssmitty i posted a short video and parts list a ways back here https://discord.com/chann...

PiNKSH!T•4/24/23, 12:15 PM

oh yeah sorry forgot about that, this is so really very tempting, is it running on it's own as a separate device or is it connected to the a joystick base?

smitty•4/24/23, 12:17 PM

i use the rhino ffb for pedal position, the original pedal usb i ignore the position and just map the brakes in game.

smitty•4/24/23, 12:17 PM

so 2 usb wires going to them

PiNKSH!T•4/24/23, 12:17 PM

ah ok so the pedals ffb is going to it's own usb card

smitty•4/24/23, 12:18 PM

yep, the kit card. if you got fancy you could use the 2 pot inputs for the toe brakes but would lose possible gain/other adjustment knobs

PiNKSH!T•4/24/23, 12:18 PM

I think the Rhino base has one axis unused on it

smitty•4/24/23, 12:19 PM

it shows 6 axes in SPAD.. rx ry rz slider etc but theres no physical interface for them other than the 2 pot inputs

Ssmitty it shows 6 axes in SPAD.. rx ry rz slider etc but theres no physical interface f...

PiNKSH!T•4/24/23, 12:21 PM

oh bugger, I was imagining having the rudder pedals plug into the base for their ffb & the old usb to pc for toe brakes

PiNKSH!T•4/24/23, 12:22 PM

& how do they run on the PC, just like any other kit or the Rhino? just using the VPforce software?

smitty•4/24/23, 12:23 PM

i only got the kits, not the full rhino base. the joystick is 1 card+2 motors the pedal is 1 card+1motor. they use the vpforce software.

PiNKSH!T•4/24/23, 12:24 PM

ok this just gets better & better, dam it, I'm not going to stop thinking of this now

PiNKSH!T•4/24/23, 12:25 PM

I must have ffb pedals, I must

smitty•4/24/23, 12:25 PM

and im making this for when i upgrade to tpr's

PiNKSH!T•4/24/23, 12:27 PM

Yeah I'm not sure when I upgrade if I'll want the TPR, Virpil or the MFG?

smitty•4/24/23, 12:27 PM

the cable-pull design would probably work on all of em, its just bracketry that would change

PiNKSH!T•4/24/23, 12:28 PM

just need a way to make my honeycomb yoke ffb too

nairb121•4/24/23, 6:45 PM

@walmis Question on the WinWing adapter - can it be used with other TM/Virpil-style bases to allow use of a WinWing grip? Or does it specifically need to be running your firmware to make sense of it? (Apologies if this has been asked before, I searched briefly but didn't find anything)

walmis•4/24/23, 6:48 PM

It should work, but limited to 24-32 buttons and no analog axis support

nairb121•4/24/23, 6:58 PM

Good enough for me, thanks!

Jon (Bounty_V)•4/24/23, 7:09 PM

i agree 100% if there was a way to replace the crosswind damper with rhino ffb as a proper kit that would be amazing

Jon (Bounty_V)•4/24/23, 7:10 PM

crosswind is what i'll be buying as you said it just makes the most sense for the value

kingjamez•4/25/23, 12:13 AM

I got my motors hooked up today just to test out. Such an amazingly simple process. I think I'm probably capable of building most of this on my own but @walmis has done such an excellent job from motor tuning, PCB design, and now I can see that the software side is equally as impressive. There is ~ZERO~ reason to try to redo anything he has done, it's just really well executed.

kingjamez•4/25/23, 12:15 AM

On to build a super simple gimbal just to have something to jerk around while I build the high end system. The laser cutter and 3D printers are going to get well used over the next week.

kingjamez•4/25/23, 12:17 AM

I don't see an "off topic" but if you are looking for a laser that can cut an enclosure for your DIY Rhino, this on kickstarter is a good deal for the 20W version: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/elegooofficial/elegoo-phecda-laser-engraver-and-cutter?ref=user_menu . Of course kickstarters can always fail, but Elegoo is established. I'll be using the Creality Falcon 10W until the above arrives and while slow it should still be able to cut ply thick enough for a decent base.

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just have to say this after getting to test the rhino for an hour today after getting it last week:

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