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The_Last_Raposa ∞
there's like 200 total words and everything is done by combining them
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's like 200 total words and everything is done by combining them
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N
Nova
•
4/27/23, 6:46 PM
i should mayhaps learn about this
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
there's like 200 total words and everything is done by combining them
N
Nova
•
4/27/23, 6:46 PM
OOH that
's very little words
N
Nova
•
4/27/23, 6:46 PM
i heard you need like 10k of other languages to speak well
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 6:46 PM
i say like 200
, the smallest number of some dictionaries is 120
N
Nova
•
4/27/23, 6:46 PM
:0
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 6:47 PM
but can be up to 300 that would be recogniseable to most speakers
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 6:47 PM
but only 120 are considered
"essential
"
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 6:47 PM
actually its a thing that how someone says something can vary
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 6:48 PM
so you could call a computer
"art box
" but someone else could call it
"confusion box
"
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 6:48 PM
and both be meaning computer
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 6:50 PM
or depending on who
's talking alcohol is often either
"strange liquid
" or
"strong liquid
"
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 6:50 PM
etc
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 6:52 PM
mi toki toki pona tawa jan nopa a
!
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 6:52 PM
(im speaking toki pona to the person nova
!
)
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 6:55 PM
i can 100
% talk your ear off about this language its one of my big obsessions
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
(im speaking toki pona to the person nova!)
N
Nova
•
4/27/23, 7:00 PM
i don
't see nova in that sentence
N
Nova
•
4/27/23, 7:00 PM
did you use the
word
nova and not the name
?
N
Nova
•
4/27/23, 7:01 PM
:p
N
Nova
i'd prefer a language where words were consistently made from base parts
M
missionz3r0
•
4/27/23, 7:06 PM
Hungarian does that too
N
Nova
i don't see nova in that sentence
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 7:12 PM
toki pona doesnt have a
"v
" sound
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 7:12 PM
i was debating if i shouldve said nopa or nowa
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 7:13 PM
the rule is to
"tokiponise
" the word
, say it as close as you can using the sounds that exist in the language
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 7:13 PM
another example is the name of the country spain
"espania
" in toki pona is
"epana
"
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 7:14 PM
britain is
"pitan
"
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 7:14 PM
etc
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 7:14 PM
mitchel is
"misali
"
S
Saphira Kai
•
4/27/23, 7:15 PM
aren
't you supposed to keep the spelling and pronounciation of names from the language the name originates from
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 7:15 PM
sorta like hawaiian does famously resulting in the phrase
"merry christmas
" being translated into hawaiian as
"mele kalikimaka
"
M
missionz3r0
•
4/27/23, 7:16 PM
Though I
'm advocating for Hungarian
, I only know one word from the language
.
M
missionz3r0
•
4/27/23, 7:16 PM
"Alma
"
M
missionz3r0
"Alma"
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 7:16 PM
nope thats an import word from the slavs
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 7:16 PM
comes from kazakh originally
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 7:17 PM
there
's a big kazakh city called alma
S
Saphira Kai
aren't you supposed to keep the spelling and pronounciation of names from the la...
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 7:17 PM
in most cases yea
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 7:17 PM
but in toki pona circles you are supposed to transliterate names
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 7:17 PM
toki pona
's alphabet just omits the existence of letters it doesnt use
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 7:18 PM
there is no way to write v or z in toki pona
S
Saphira Kai
•
4/27/23, 7:18 PM
right
S
Saphira Kai
•
4/27/23, 7:19 PM
i mean i just semi
-frequently see like
, Chinese text referring to e
.g
. an American company name by using the Latin alphabet
S
Saphira Kai
i mean i just semi-frequently see like, Chinese text referring to e.g. an Ameri...
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 7:20 PM
yea toki pona
technically
doesnt use the latin alphabet
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 7:20 PM
it has a 14 letter alphabet based on latin
S
Saphira Kai
•
4/27/23, 7:20 PM
ik
, that
's why i picked an example using two different writing systems
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 7:21 PM
p
, t
, k
, s
, m
, n
, l
, j
, w
, a
, e
, i
, o
, u
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 7:21 PM
thats it
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 7:22 PM
its basically a technicality but theyre not supposed to be latin script theyre supposed to be IPA script
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 7:22 PM
cos its a pronunciation system
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 7:23 PM
toki pona actually because it has so few words usually uses a system called
"sitelen
" which is like heiroglyphs or chinese glyphs
, where each word has its own symbol and you can combine them
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
OP
•
4/27/23, 7:24 PM
the english looking letters are a pronunciation guide basically
T
The_Last_Raposa ∞
i was debating if i shouldve said nopa or nowa
N
Nova
•
4/27/23, 7:24 PM
nowa definitely
N
Nova
•
4/27/23, 7:24 PM
uwufy is the correct way to do things
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