Hi Walming, Can I purchase the Rhino MT Plate and have it shipped to me now? This way I can weld my

Hi Walming, Can I purchase the Rhino MT Plate and have it shipped to me now? This way I can weld my MT Quick Release plate to it and have it ready for when my Rhino Arrives. I will pay for expedited shipping. Thank you

BB9 Hi Walming, Can I purchase the Rhino MT Plate and have it shipped to me now? Th...

walmis•6/16/23, 5:56 AM

Sure, you can place an order http://order.vpforce.eu

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Order request for VPforce products.
Please note: to reserve a VPforce RHINO FFB base, please use reservation form here.

Once the order is ready to be fulfilled an invoice will be sent to the provided email address.

B9OP•6/16/23, 9:13 AM

Hi Walmis, After the order is placed how long will it take to ship the VPforce RHINO FFB base?

BB9 Hi Walmis, After the order is placed how long will it take to ship the VPforce R...

Bob Bushman•6/16/23, 9:14 AM

Im currently 370 or something in line and I'm hoping for end of January 2025

B9OP•6/16/23, 9:15 AM

What is the expected date my Rhino purchase being shipped to me?

AndyHill•6/16/23, 11:09 AM

if you are on the list you can ask the bot

kingjamez•6/17/23, 2:32 AM

If I put a motor on a belt driven axis for a yoke that requires ~20 turns of the motor for full travel, could the VPForce software handle that during calibration? I know you'd need to always start on the same revolution or you'd need to do a limit switch find. Essentially, I would like to do a 3D Printer type belt driven linear rail.

smitty•6/17/23, 2:43 AM

whats the stroke length? why not keep it simple and make it so stroke = 1 rotation? it would be very hard to find that perfect 1/20th spot for recentering. for 200mm travel youd only need a ~65mm pulley diameter.

smitty•6/17/23, 2:45 AM

also with the force cranked up it will be extremely hard to move the yoke with that 20:1 reduction.

kingjamez•6/17/23, 2:45 AM

I'd be very easy to find home with an LED connected to an optical or mechanical switch.

kingjamez•6/17/23, 2:46 AM

It's not "really" a 20:1 reduction, it's a 16t pinion on an open ended belt.

kingjamez•6/17/23, 2:46 AM

200mm total movement linearly.

kingjamez•6/17/23, 2:47 AM

Just like an ender 3 X-axis

smitty•6/17/23, 2:48 AM

right but what's the radius of a 16t pulley? pretty small, so 1.6Nm / radius in meters is the force youre going to be pushing. and its going to be significant

kingjamez•6/17/23, 2:51 AM

don't get carried away with 20:1.... I can make that gear any size I want but 1:1 isn't reasonable. I'll worry with the mechanics, I'm asking about the software's capability of doing multiple turns.

smitty•6/17/23, 2:53 AM

as far as i know, i have gone beyond the 1 rotation and its worked fine. my endpoint numbers were in the 6000 range. i haven done 20x though. do you have the motors already? put in some numbers manually in the limits like +/-40000 and see if it works

Number481•6/17/23, 2:53 AM

I was told by walmis that it’s “unlimited” with the restriction you already mentioned.

Number481•6/17/23, 2:54 AM

Watch his diy get started video he makes an axis with 3 or 4 revolutions I think.

NNumber481 Watch his diy get started video he makes an axis with 3 or 4 revolutions I think...

kingjamez•6/17/23, 2:57 AM

Ah! I didn't remember that being in the video. I just ordered a 2nd set of motors and am too lazy to squeeze under the chair, take off the belt, and reinstall to try it on my working stick. Thanks! I'd guess if it can do 2, it could do as many as needed so long as I home it before turning it on.

kingjamez•6/17/23, 2:59 AM

I'm adding FFB yoke to my long list of VPForce projects... sometime after pedals but before collective.

Kkingjamez I'm adding FFB yoke to my long list of VPForce projects... sometime after pedals...

Number481•6/17/23, 3:00 AM

I’ve eyed my honeycomb alpha more than once wondering if I could hack some motors in there.

Number481•6/17/23, 3:00 AM

A bit $$ to just start pulling apart and tinkering though!

NNumber481 I’ve eyed my honeycomb alpha more than once wondering if I could hack some motor...

kingjamez•6/17/23, 3:00 AM

I own one... but the case looks too small to even fit the smal motors.

kingjamez•6/17/23, 3:01 AM

moving to general with an idea.....

NNumber481 Watch his diy get started video he makes an axis with 3 or 4 revolutions I think...

kingjamez•6/17/23, 3:28 AM

Bingo at 3:10 in the intro video he does exactly this... excellent memory.

Kkingjamez Bingo at 3:10 in the intro video he does exactly this... excellent memory.

Number481•6/17/23, 3:29 AM

Well, I only remember it because I asked him a bunch of questions, which he answered. And then later watched the video and realized it would have answered the questions I had if I had watched it first

Will3D•6/17/23, 7:55 AM

@walmis is there any way to make the stick looser? Is the neutral dampening compensation at the max at 25% or is there a way to get

WWill3D @walmis is there any way to make the stick looser? Is the neutral dampening comp...

walmis•6/17/23, 8:12 AM

Try playing with negative damping, though increase in small amounts

Wwalmis Try playing with negative damping, though increase in small amounts

Will3D•6/17/23, 9:10 AM

Ok will try. Thx

AsBurli•6/17/23, 6:35 PM

When I use the TM F/A-18 grip, buttons 25 through 32 are shown as active. Is this correct? Otherwise everything works as it should.

kingjamez•6/18/23, 12:45 AM

I have the Thrustmaster A-10 grip and it doesn't behave that way. Do any of the buttons on your grip not work because of this?

kingjamez•6/18/23, 12:46 AM

What happens when you change the Grip Type to VPC T-50CM2? What happens when you take the stick off?

AAsBurli When I use the TM F/A-18 grip, buttons 25 through 32 are shown as active. Is thi...

walmis•6/18/23, 4:20 AM

Yeah that's normal for some TM grips, but I'll probably need to address this in the future releases

Wwalmis Try playing with negative damping, though increase in small amounts

Will3D•6/18/23, 7:38 AM

Works a little, but hard to make it feel good. Wants to "run away". I'll be using a slightly longer extension, so that will help some. Is there any more adjustment in the system for dampening compensation ? That makes the biggest difference by a large amount.

Will3D•6/18/23, 7:38 AM

Maybe going to a steel extension in stead of aluminium might help also. Although it might impact on smaller vibrations?

goosemanha•6/18/23, 10:13 PM

if i payed 1600-2000 for a unit can i get priority shiping?

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/18/23, 11:23 PM

he doesnt have such an option available (i assume ur asking "if i pay x amount can i cut in line to the front") but could see if any existing owner is willing to sell or something

idk the outcome but thats what was discussed between a couple of people in the past

ottokar•6/19/23, 11:41 AM

Very nice my Rhino is ready to order, can anyone tell me if I need the MonsterTech mounting plate to secure the base to a flat surface?

Oottokar Very nice my Rhino is ready to order, can anyone tell me if I need the MonsterTe...

Reed•6/19/23, 12:12 PM

This using the monster tech mount

Oottokar Very nice my Rhino is ready to order, can anyone tell me if I need the MonsterTe...

kingjamez•6/19/23, 2:52 PM

The base has 4 holes in it. You can use those if you can bolt/screw into your flat surface. Or you can do as @reed showed and use the monstertech plate to secure to some structure of your simpit. I mounted mine on aluminum extrusion via the 4 holes in the base.

Oottokar Very nice my Rhino is ready to order, can anyone tell me if I need the MonsterTe...

kingjamez•6/19/23, 3:39 PM

The faq has this message with a pdf of the mounting dimensions: https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/986474224241741884/987268082219253770

ottokar•6/19/23, 4:12 PM

zbyte•6/19/23, 11:27 PM

Hi @walmis, thank you for the Rhino. Mounted it on the monstertech with the adapter, very easy, installed the limiters very easy. When attaching the virpil 200mm extension I can't get it properly seated, is there a specific trick to accomplish this? It should be simple but after several tries I believe the treading on the rhino could be worned out after all tries

zbyte•6/19/23, 11:27 PM

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TrigaNZ•6/19/23, 11:38 PM

PM him perhaps.

zbyte•6/19/23, 11:47 PM

Thanks, I was able to get it in

zbyte•6/19/23, 11:48 PM

I wonder if that specific piece can be printed

zbyte•6/19/23, 11:48 PM

The attachment

gcze•6/21/23, 5:15 PM

Does swapping the axis have a negative impact on performance, functionality ffb? I swapped engines, roll motor to pitch, pitch motor to roll.

Ggcze Does swapping the axis have a negative impact on performance, functionality ffb?...

Number481•6/21/23, 5:34 PM

the Rhino is functionally equivalent on both axis'. You could turn the base 90 degrees and use roll as pitch and pitch as roll like you said. As long as it's bound properly in the sim.

Number481•6/21/23, 5:35 PM

Just if you need to invert an axis because of the orientation of the base, do it in the base configuration software, not in the sim. Some modules (in DCS) don't respect the in-sim invert axis and the FFB effects would be opposite.

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