@walmis I fear I'm having the same issue here. For a little background I had a WW adapter that the p

@walmis I fear I'm having the same issue here. For a little background I had a WW adapter that the pins got bent on that came with my VP Rhino delivery so I ordered a new one, however, despite ensuring good contact and proper pin seating I'm unable to detect any input from WW F16/EX Grip in Rhino config tool

My Setup:
Rhino -> Virpil Z-Extension -> WW Adapter -> F16EX Grip

What I have tried:

Rhino -> Thrustmaster WH Joystick Grip

Rhino -> Virpil Z-Extension -> Thrustmaster WH Joystick Grip

WW Orion 2 Base -> WW F16EX Grip

Rhino -> Virpil Z-Extension -> WW Adapter -> F16EX Grip

Rhino -> WW Adapter -> F16EX Grip

At this point I know the Z-Extension works because it worked with my Warthog Joystick, but nothing I plug into the WW adapter seems to work despite the grip working it's own WW Orion 2 Base

PPhantom do I need to change to that, then power off, close program, restart etc before t...

Spanner•7/27/23, 3:01 AM

@walmis i have this exact view and it just says the following when i set the grip type to debug... do you know what should i do?

FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 00 08 00 08 00 08 00 08

FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 00 08 00 08 00 08 00 08

Spanner•7/27/23, 3:03 AM

it also appears to be "loose"

Spanner•7/27/23, 3:03 AM

but applying pressure doesn't make input appear

SSpanner @walmis i have this exact view and it just says the following when i set the gri...

CudaOP•7/27/23, 3:16 AM

Same...

PPhantom do you want a short vid clip of what i mean ?

Spanner•7/27/23, 3:37 AM

If you could send a short video that would be great

CCuda @walmis I fear I'm having the same issue here. For a little background I had a W...

papiplanes•7/27/23, 3:51 AM

I had a similar issue, but when I started up DCS I saw the binds working. Ensure you have the proper grip type in VP Config tool, and test the changes in dcs. For some reason windows game control window did not see the buttons on the F-16EX

SSpanner @walmis i have this exact view and it just says the following when i set the gri...

walmis•7/27/23, 4:26 AM

Looks like Rhino is able to read the adapter, the other end didn't mate properly. I've found you might need to push the 6 pin WW connector harder into the adapter socket.

Wwalmis Looks like Rhino is able to read the adapter, the other end didn't mate properly...

Spanner•7/27/23, 4:43 AM

I tried really hard but no dice… I have a WW base with me and it does work

Spanner•7/27/23, 4:43 AM

Anything else comes to mind? I tried to take it apart but wasn’t successful

walmis•7/27/23, 4:48 AM

D'oh, I'll probably mail you a new one

Spanner•7/27/23, 5:10 AM

If there’s anything I can do so that you don’t have to mail me a new one I’d like to try that… but if not, I’d appreciate a replacement

walmis•7/27/23, 5:32 AM

There's a hack you could try, but that involves a soldering iron

Let me know if you want to try.

CudaOP•7/27/23, 5:34 AM

I'm willing to try if the alternative is mailing it back and waiting for another again

Wwalmis There's a hack you could try, but that involves a soldering iron 🙂 Let me know ...

Spanner•7/27/23, 5:35 AM

Same - I do have a soldering iron (or two), would love to avoid waiting for another

Spanner•7/27/23, 5:35 AM

But I could probably use some instructions

walmis•7/27/23, 5:36 AM

okay, I'll try to make a short vid

walmis•7/27/23, 5:55 AM

https://photos.app.goo.gl/um8ZC7NgLJRGkY5U7

Google Photos

2 new items by Valmantas Palikša

walmis•7/27/23, 5:55 AM

The idea is to push the pins in without creating solder bridges, only 3 pins labeled DATA GND and 3.3V are necessary, the others are NoConnect

walmis•7/27/23, 5:56 AM

To disassemble the plastic parts, mount it on the Rhino and then you can unscrew the 4 bolts holding it together

CudaOP•7/27/23, 6:10 AM

ok I see! I will give this a shot in the morning. Thank you @walmis !

Spanner•7/27/23, 12:40 PM

@walmis I unscrewed the 4 screws, what do I do now?

walmis•7/27/23, 12:41 PM

pull out the top part

Spanner•7/27/23, 12:41 PM

with force?

Spanner•7/27/23, 12:41 PM

ah, indeed

Spanner•7/27/23, 12:47 PM

it looks like this, I’m going to try pushing it in

Spanner•7/27/23, 12:52 PM

Spanner•7/27/23, 12:53 PM

Pushed them in a good amount

walmis•7/27/23, 1:01 PM

let's hope it works

Spanner•7/27/23, 1:04 PM

Spanner•7/27/23, 1:04 PM

it does!!!

Spanner•7/27/23, 1:05 PM

thank you!!! @walmis

Spanner•7/27/23, 1:06 PM

there are 3 axis on this grip though - any way for me to use those axis?

walmis•7/27/23, 1:20 PM

yeah, select WinWing adapter profile, axes should show up in windows controller settings

Spanner•7/27/23, 2:08 PM

@walmis is it still possible to get a replacement part? i noticed teh connection is quite unstable... it's very easy for the buttons to disappear if i move the stick

Spanner•7/27/23, 2:18 PM

damn, now i just get 0xFFs with the adapter... maybe i shorted something when i was doing this

[10:18:21.030]  FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

[10:18:21.030]  FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

CudaOP•7/27/23, 2:23 PM

Long story short, Mine works too!

Long story long:

I had 2 adapters because I goofed and snapped a pin in half on my first (Adapter A)
I got a new one yesterday (Adapter B) and had the issue above
I tried the fix on Adapter B and it didn't work. I think I might have created a solder bridge so I removed the solder with some solder wick and couldn't find my excess solder so I figured I'd try the fix on Adapter A even with one pin being about half length and missing that middle stabilizing plastic piece.
I did a much better job with pushing the pins without messing up the solder on this one, however, when I put it all back together and tried it I had to get just enough force on the Rhino -> Adapter port for it to register. I'm worried if I move it too much it will likely disconnect one day.
So I'm waiting on some new solder for Adapter B to see if I can salvage that one

But pushing up the pins, did seem to have the desired effect for now.

SSpanner damn, now i just get 0xFFs with the adapter... maybe i shorted something when i ...

walmis•7/27/23, 2:40 PM

Hmm, for some reason it's not talking on the Rhino end

SSpanner damn, now i just get 0xFFs with the adapter... maybe i shorted something when i ...

CudaOP•7/27/23, 2:44 PM

When this happened to me it seemed to help to take off the two-screw plus adapter part to try to get a tighter fit on the plug

SSpanner damn, now i just get 0xFFs with the adapter... maybe i shorted something when i ...

walmis•7/27/23, 2:45 PM

You could disassemble it again and plug directly into the Rhino to isolate any mechanical issues

Wwalmis You could disassemble it again and plug directly into the Rhino to isolate any m...

Spanner•7/27/23, 2:52 PM

Spanner•7/27/23, 2:52 PM

Yeah it’s directly attached right now

Wwalmis You could disassemble it again and plug directly into the Rhino to isolate any m...

Spanner•7/27/23, 2:59 PM

Spanner•7/27/23, 2:59 PM

anything obvious from this?

Spanner•7/27/23, 3:00 PM

(i hope it's not the rhino base that was affected...)

blave549•7/27/23, 4:25 PM

I see this in the manual. What does it mean? Does it mean that my Virpil Alpha Prime grip won't work without an extension? "Note that rotating Thrustmaster grips requires the use of an extension. "

Bob Bushman•7/27/23, 4:43 PM

Thrustmaster grips dont have the din connector on a cable, they have a fixed orientation when mounting.

That's not necessarily the more ergonomic solution especially for center mount so they need an extension with an intermediary cable to allow for rotation of the grip so the grip points in the same direction as your arm when in your lap.

Every virpil grip that ive seen has a little cable coming out of the grip so they can simply be angle mounted directly.

Although there are many other reasons to want an extension as well.

BBob Bushman Thrustmaster grips dont have the din connector on a cable, they have a fixed ori...

blave549•7/27/23, 5:13 PM

I have two 100mm extensions but am not sure I have vertical room for them, at least w.r.t. how I plan to mount the Rhino (using the MT adapter plate, which appears to be a 1:1 replacement for the Virpil plate that I have my CM3 base mounted on). Thanks for your reply, btw.

Bob Bushman•7/27/23, 5:15 PM

Its a big boy for sure.

Got a boeing pit myself, so no real idea how to solve it myself yet, then again got a few years to ponder it.

SmallFoot•7/27/23, 10:22 PM

Is there a way to implement a dead zone? I'm having trouble in a non-sim game where the Rhino is causing a constant scrolling in menus. Of course, I could disconnect it's USB but the cable is routed under my desk and it's a pain to get at.

SSmallFoot Is there a way to implement a dead zone? I'm having trouble in a non-sim game w...

Spanner•7/27/23, 10:23 PM

Look into hidhide. You can hide your rhino from that program

@walmis I fear I'm having the same issue here. For a little background I had a WW adapter that the p

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