cold start on these hurts because there's no system cache of containers for rootless podman, so the

cold start on these hurts because there's no system cache of containers for rootless podman, so the container will be pulled the first time no matter what

bketelsenOP•8/3/23, 7:58 PM

the edge doesn't bleed any harder than this - we're there

Bigpod•8/3/23, 8:03 PM

still very cool

j0rge•8/3/23, 8:53 PM

is this replacing the entire shell? like if you ctrl-alt-f3 and login to that tty, that's containerized right?

j0rge•8/3/23, 8:53 PM

I was wondering if we could do it so it's transparent when opening a terminal

j0rge•8/3/23, 9:14 PM

that way if you need a host terminal the system is still "normal"

j0rge•8/3/23, 9:18 PM

alright, 8 watts on the plane with the framework image

j0rge•8/3/23, 9:18 PM

this can totally work

Bbketelsen cold start on these hurts because there's no system cache of containers for root...

akdev•8/3/23, 9:23 PM

Can you try --rootfs /:O--rootfs /:O

akdev•8/3/23, 9:23 PM

It would be neat

akdev•8/3/23, 9:23 PM

This will create a container by using the current system as base

akdev•8/3/23, 9:23 PM

Runs in an overlayfs

akdev•8/3/23, 9:23 PM

This means no disk/network overhead

j0rge•8/3/23, 9:27 PM

https://github.com/ublue-os/website/pull/316

GitHub

fix: add note about being all the way up to date by castrojo · Pull...

j0rge•8/3/23, 9:27 PM

can someone ack this?

j0rge•8/3/23, 9:49 PM

https://github.com/ublue-os/main/issues/288

GitHub

Add framework images · Issue #288 · ublue-os/main

(sorry on a plane will add more detail later) We may have a volunteer to help do this after I announced the project on the framework forums. Just outlining what we'd need to do this. The TLDR i...

j0rge•8/3/23, 9:49 PM

alright!

j0rge•8/3/23, 10:21 PM

I'm starting notes on this as matt from framework has a friend who is keen on getting started contributing to oss ....

j0rge•8/3/23, 10:21 PM

so this might be a nice virtuous circle

Aakdev Can you try `--rootfs /:O`

bketelsenOP•8/3/23, 10:57 PM

I couldn't get that one working.

akdev•8/3/23, 11:02 PM

sad, it probably needs real root access

bketelsenOP•8/4/23, 12:14 AM

i couldn't figure out a way to make the :0 part work in the container definition file, everything I tried failed with a parsing error

bketelsenOP•8/4/23, 12:14 AM

and without the overlay bit it failed because it was trying to create stuff in /run

bketelsenOP•8/4/23, 12:15 AM

i'm curious if all of these examples in the docs just workjust work in regular fedora and we're bucking the system with the silverblue stuff

j0rge•8/4/23, 12:34 AM

https://github.com/coreos/rpm-ostree/issues/4525

GitHub

Add support for `reboot-apply` · Issue #4525 · coreos/rpm-ostree

Since the latest systemd supports "soft reboots", we can distinguish whether there's a kernel update pending and invoke systemctl reboot or systemctl soft-reboot as appropriate.

j0rge•8/4/23, 12:34 AM

boom shacka lacka!

Bigpod•8/4/23, 12:38 AM

uuuu

Jj0rge https://github.com/coreos/rpm-ostree/issues/4525

dreamyuki•8/4/23, 12:39 AM

so --apply-live will be applied without reboot soon?

j0rge•8/4/23, 12:39 AM

I am not sure, you have all the info I have

Ddreamyuki so --apply-live will be applied without reboot soon?

Kyle Gospo•8/4/23, 12:39 AM

--apply-live already applies without a reboot wym

Kyle Gospo•8/4/23, 12:39 AM

that's the point

Kyle Gospo•8/4/23, 12:40 AM

it means now you'll nearly instantly reboot your machine by booting a new ostree image on the same kernel when there's no kernel update

Kyle Gospo•8/4/23, 12:40 AM

for normal updates

j0rge•8/4/23, 12:54 AM

We're at 1,242,010 image pulls now

j0rge•8/4/23, 12:55 AM

we're going to hit 2mil way faster than it took us to hit 1.

Jj0rge We're at 1,242,010 image pulls now

EyeCantCU•8/4/23, 1:02 AM

I wish we had an idea of how many users that translates to

EyeCantCU•8/4/23, 1:02 AM

But that's absolutely insane

j0rge•8/4/23, 1:06 AM

we keep the default countme thing from fedora

j0rge•8/4/23, 1:08 AM

and that does break out rpm-ostree information ... so I think whenever they publish the next report or whatever, maybe they talked about it at Flock, I haven't had a chance to go through the videos yet.

j0rge•8/4/23, 1:09 AM

https://data-analysis.fedoraproject.org/csv-reports/countme/

j0rge•8/4/23, 1:09 AM

aha!

np2•8/4/23, 1:21 AM

I couldn't find anything on ublue in there, but I did find

2021-07-05,2021-07-11,3,CONFIDENTIAL PREVIEW \xc2\xab\xc2\xb1\xc2\xbb Hybrid Decisions\xc2\xae SaferOS\xe2\x84\xa2,3315,generic,x86_64,3,fedora-modular-33,x86_64

2021-07-05,2021-07-11,3,CONFIDENTIAL PREVIEW \xc2\xab\xc2\xb1\xc2\xbb Hybrid Decisions\xc2\xae SaferOS\xe2\x84\xa2,3315,generic,x86_64,3,fedora-modular-33,x86_64

j0rge•8/4/23, 1:23 AM

I think we'd just show up as normal silverblue because we don't edit anything

bketelsenOP•8/4/23, 1:36 AM

we should

bketelsenOP•8/4/23, 1:36 AM

although I always say no to tracking

Ddreamyuki so --apply-live will be applied without reboot soon?

akdev•8/4/23, 2:00 AM

It will use the new mechanism to reboot userspace

akdev•8/4/23, 2:00 AM

it will reboot PID=1 and up

j0rge•8/4/23, 3:15 AM

https://github.com/ublue-os/main/issues/289

GitHub

Implement a community governance structure · Issue #289 · ublue-os/...

Alright everyone, one of the final bits I've been putting off but now it's time to get ready for the big show: ublue-os/website#317 This adds a few things. Membership levels with some defin...

j0rge•8/4/23, 3:15 AM

ok, worked on this all night

j0rge•8/4/23, 3:15 AM

please take a look!

akdev•8/4/23, 3:53 AM

I think you have a typo

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