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mfad16mo ago
Bigelow

Denim

Discuss jeans and denim here! 👖
683 Replies
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae16mo ago
This reads like a Parli debate Kritik
awburkey
awburkey16mo ago
@thegoodmorningman has some killer kapital denim he’s been showing around recently I love my Iron Hearts
braindrops
braindrops16mo ago
Personally, I’m pro-denim. I think it is good.
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae16mo ago
I can get behind this
The Good Morning Man
Posted in #Kapital
tijelu
tijelu16mo ago
Someone in an outfit feedback thread said dark slim cuffed raw denim can look dated. Agree or disagree?
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan16mo ago
yeah it definitely can, slim fit raws that never saw a tailor or harder work than sitting at a desk were the halmark of an era
AAARRRGH
AAARRRGH16mo ago
If you're not changing tires in your raw denim, you're not doing it right.
The Good Morning Man
Those didn’t send last night
awburkey
awburkey16mo ago
Agree I think a tapered cut in general looks pretty dated
awburkey
awburkey16mo ago
Personal example
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bwahh
bwahh16mo ago
Agree, sadly my Rogue Territory’s have been sitting in the closet for awhile now in favor of my LVC 1947 501s. Straight cut is so much better for me
kstocks
kstocks16mo ago
Do y'all hem your denim and if so do y'all go to your tailor/dry cleaners or put the effort in to get it chain stitched? I just bought some Drake's denim in the archive same with an extra 5" in the inseam that I'll need to figure out what to do with
jorgeragula05
jorgeragula0516mo ago
My last two pairs I got hemmed by the store I bought them from. I’ve had denim hemmed before by my tailor without a problem. I don’t personally care if they get a chain stitch.
awburkey
awburkey16mo ago
I’ve either sent main to railcar or had it hemmed by the seller
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae16mo ago
If the store doesn’t offer chain stitch in house I’ll take it to Self Edge since there’s one near me. That said, mailing to Railcar is a good option too if you don’t have a place nearby that does it
kstocks
kstocks16mo ago
Thanks - good to know about railcar!
enrondidnothingwrong
Weird post, guy Idk, it seems like Karl really hasn’t adapted his fits beyond the mid 2010s slim phase. On one hand, I appreciate RGT for sticking to its aesthetic, because there are enough brands with different fits. On the other hand, it feels like they’re leaving money on the table. Can you imagine how well wider leg RGT fits would sell?
s0up
s0up16mo ago
I only just got the reference lmao still knew it was shitposting though
enrondidnothingwrong
Lol I was making a reference too. “Weird Guy”? I knew it was shitposting but I don’t know the source.
Benji
Benji16mo ago
Hi, I purchased the '54 501s (Levi's Premium, not LVC) and they came with small intentional tears that I didn't notice on the online photo. Are there ways to repair or patch intentional tears? Thank you for any help!
Benji
Benji16mo ago
By the way, aside from the tears and my newbie difficulty in buttoning them, they seem like a great pair of jeans to get on sale (I paid $70). I got them in the Bright Light pattern: https://www.levi.com/US/en_US/clothing/men/jeans/straight/501-54-original-fit-mens-jeans/p/A46770006
501® '54 Original Fit Men's Jeans - Light Wash | Levi's® US
Close your eyes. Think “jeans.” now open. They were 501 originals®, right? With a classic straight leg and iconic styling, they’re literally the blueprint for every ...
daddyneedsadrink
daddyneedsadrink16mo ago
Just return them lol Spend like 40-50 more and get a Japanese reproduction that’s better than Levi’s in every way
Benji
Benji16mo ago
I appreciate the help! Some google searching of brands led me to find TCB but their 50s reproduction has tears too haha: https://tcbjeans.myshopify.com/products/tcb-50s-jeans-one-wash
TCB JEANS
TCB 50's Jeans/ One-Wash
Fabric:Approx.13.5oz Zimbabwe Cotton 100%Details:Hand-made paper patchThreads:Sewing thread 100% cotton (Thread Color:4 different/ Yarn count: 5 kinds)Proudly Designed and Made In Kojima, JAPAN *50's Jeans run smaller than jeans from any other brands so be sure to check the measurements on the size chart.  TCB started
Benji
Benji16mo ago
Any other brands recommended at TCB's price point? thank you yeah that's another issue with TCB, they don't have one with similar colors to the one I got (wanted to get light colored jeans to go with certain shirts, already have a pair of mid blue 505s). I do need to get an indigo pair of jeans as well however oh I'm dumb, you mean they don't have tears new perhaps I'll stick with the Levi's for my light wash jeans then, the tears were very minimal from what I remember. I'm waiting for 30 length ones to arrive to my house as Levi's tailor said the 32 they had on hand was too long I imagine 3sixteen is well recommended here for raw selvedge? I could wait for the CS-100x to come on sale and try them on in store thank you! A bit slim is alright with me as long as it still falls within being a classic straight fit and the rise is mid to high (higher rise seems cool to me) thank you, really appreciate it!
Spuck
Spuck16mo ago
Edwin are still a more budget friendly option
s0up
s0up16mo ago
TCB are usually pretty well priced on Denimio. I'm not a fan of the Edwin painted pockets But some people like it
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae16mo ago
Sugar Cane 1947 from Denimio or Hinoya is also a good budget option
s0up
s0up16mo ago
Those sugar canes are cool I think my next pair will be the TCB30s I'm liking the wider fit on them and the repro details like the back cinch
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae16mo ago
TCB 30s are dope. Back cinch is a nice detail
Legs
Legs16mo ago
I love my sugar cane hawaii jeans
enrondidnothingwrong
My Kapital Century denim makes me wish that back cinches never went out of fashion. They’re so practical; it’s like having a belt without a belt What are your guys’ go to pairs nowadays? I just got the PBJ double indigo extra slub 13oz stretch, so I’m excited to wear those. Got a bunch of pairs on the backburner too from RGT and N&F.
daddyneedsadrink
daddyneedsadrink16mo ago
warehouse duck digger in banner denim
identikit
identikit15mo ago
I’m considering getting my first pair of raw denim in the near-ish future, and I wanted to make sure I understood what I’m getting into. I’ve read that the dye can transfer onto furniture, clothes, shoes, etc. How long does this last for?
s0up
s0up15mo ago
That will entirely depend on which brand you buy. Some are worse than others, the term for it is crocking so I guess if you searched you could probably find something giving some comparisons on how much certain brands will crock
identikit
identikit15mo ago
Ok, that’s good to know I’m looking at Gustin and TCB for reference. Possibly brave star
enrondidnothingwrong
Crocking usually isn’t that big of a deal, as indigo washes off pretty easily. Doesn’t really show up on much besides white, and I’ve never had anything be permanently stained.
daddyneedsadrink
daddyneedsadrink15mo ago
Don’t get gustin
Zachary
Zachary15mo ago
Definitely depends on the brand but something you could look out for is once washed denim as opposed to raw. The initial wash removes most excess dye. Crocking can still be an issue but much less so compared to raw. I got my grandpa some raw jeans a couple years back - he threw them away when they left indigo on his car's seat leather 😂 Those are really tight I'd recommend Unbranded over either of these. Better quality, same price range. Sister brand to Naked & Famous.
identikit
identikit15mo ago
yes, I had seen TCB had a one wash option and was already considering that hoping to get more reliable sizing
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae15mo ago
I would recommend TCB over N&F or Unbranded just on account of patterning. Their rises and thigh dimensions can leave much to be desired
s0up
s0up15mo ago
A lot/most things from Denimio will be one wash or offer one wash vs no wash. At least for the jeans I've looked at Unless you can be bothered to look on yahoo japan I think Denimio usually has the best price for Japanese brands that I've seen But you want to be confident in the cut/sizing of what you are buying
enrondidnothingwrong
Rodeo Pine is slightly better. Also, their shipping is free and arrives in like, one or two days to the US, which is just insane. Denimio is great though
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae15mo ago
Lol I was just about to suggest Rodeo Pine. Hinoya and Okayama Denim are also worth looking at
s0up
s0up15mo ago
Hadn't heard of Rodeo Pine, will be wasting far to much time looking at this
Zachary
Zachary15mo ago
Yeah this is fair, their cuts are fairly dated now
enrondidnothingwrong
All those Japanese companies typically get their stock way earlier than American retailers in addition to the better prices. Denimio Hinoya and Rodeo will also hold on to rare stock for longer because they don’t advertise well.
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae15mo ago
To be fair, any Japanese repro brand also has a dated cut 😂
s0up
s0up15mo ago
time is a flat circle we're coming back round
Zachary
Zachary15mo ago
Lol very true, I guess I just meant not on trend Where's that fashion is cyclical copy pasta
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae15mo ago
I’m wearing tapered jeans right now and I’m loathe to get rid of them because I love the fabric, but I truly don’t think I’ll go back to tapered or slim fit when it comes back around. Straight and wide leg pants are just a revelation comfort wise
frm
frm15mo ago
Opposite for me lol while I’ve never liked Skinny jeans I’m still rocking my fitted tapereds because I tried some straight fit jeans recently not even relaxed or loose just straight and the extra flowy fabric on my calves and ankles is just so uncomfortable to me
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae15mo ago
I’ve embraced the flow. If anything, I’ve only craved even wider as of late
enrondidnothingwrong
I’ve been pulling out my wider fits lately primarily because it’s been so hot. Those wider legs are a lifesaver in really hot weather, and they create a better silhouette with oversized tops, which unsurprisingly are also great in hot weather. I like the look of my more tapered pants with my boots and sneakers though, so when it cools down I’ll probably switch back.
ler
ler15mo ago
I had my eye on TCB 50s for a while but ended up getting a deal on some Made in USA Sugar Cane 1947s. I'm intrigued by the Naked & Famous True Guy as a straight leg option but there's really no reason to go with them over a brand like TCB unless you're getting massive discount.
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan15mo ago
N&F prices crazy these days
Aaron 🍍
Aaron 🍍15mo ago
ISO: black wax, 10”+ rise, slim denim. 28in waists are often too roomy with rise above 8”
frm
frm15mo ago
Why can’t I find Levi’s type 1 jacket length anywhere 🤬 they have shoulder, chest, and sleeve measurements but not length
ler
ler15mo ago
What size? I have a Levi's Premium Type 1 in L Hot soaked it once but I can measure the length if you want.
frm
frm15mo ago
Was honestly looking at either small or medium as what I can find online says they run massive? I’m 5’10 ~165 usually wear a medium in everything
ler
ler15mo ago
The fit is generally bigger than a Type III but I went true to size. The L is around 25-26" long
ler
ler15mo ago
im 5'8/5'9 like 180ish when this pic was taken (got fatter since)
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ler
ler15mo ago
the only really oversized thing for me is the sleeves are crazy long (i have them cuffed/rolled back one here)
Benji
Benji15mo ago
@xmdot where are those carpenter pants from? Anyone know how the sugar hill 1947 jeans fit? I take either size 28 or 29 waist, Levi's 505 I'm a 29 but j crew's relaxed fit chinos were too big in 29
ler
ler15mo ago
Uniqlo!
Benji
Benji15mo ago
cool, i hope they'll make them again
frm
frm15mo ago
That L does look quite good on you, I wonder how much it shrunk with the wash.. would you mind measuring the length when you get the chance? I have another denim jacket that measures almost exact in shoulders sleeve and width to the M but yeah can’t get a length measurement on it. I’d like it a little more cropped compared since I have weirdly long torso and short legs lol
ler
ler15mo ago
Pulled tight post-soak the length on the back not including collar is 25.5 with the fit also keep in mind the type 1 has a cinch in the back so you can adjust it a bit
daddyneedsadrink
daddyneedsadrink15mo ago
high rise, roomy seat and straight leg. much moreso than 505 imo oh wait i thought you said sugar cane' i don't know wtf sugar hill is
s0up
s0up15mo ago
@frm3 some of the Japanese brands like TCB, Strike Gold will have reproductions of Levi's type 1 jackets if the length doesn't work out for you
daddyneedsadrink
daddyneedsadrink15mo ago
yeah, i wouldn't even bother with levi's lol
s0up
s0up15mo ago
Those That Know
The Strike Gold 50S-1st 15oz Denim Jacket
Shop for The Strike Gold 50S-1st 15oz Denim Jacket at Those That Know. Priority worldwide shipping available.
daddyneedsadrink
daddyneedsadrink15mo ago
TCB JEANS
■Pre-order■ S40's Jacket
■This is a pre-order page for S40's Jacket.  Expected Delivery: the end of August ~ mid Sep 2023  *We stopped offering raw jeans or jackets.   We've finally made something we had the biggest expectations about. When Hajime Inoue started TCB back in 2012, he was more fond of the standard vintages like 1955 model, 66 mod
frm
frm15mo ago
Wow my regular run of the mill type 3 Levi's trucker from macys is 27" from bottom of collar seam to bottom of jacket (back) These are like double the price tho 😭
s0up
s0up15mo ago
Yep they are pricey, it's fine if that's not something you would want to spend. TCB stuff would usually be cheaper if you looked on Denimio, Okayama Denim, Rodeo Japan Pine Lots of options on those sites and they will have size charts that should list the length I should have said though, if you like the Levi's jacket and the size works for you then absolutely go with that one. You're the one who's wearing it and I'm just nerding out over Japanese denim
ler
ler15mo ago
I’ll say that the premium type 1 is surprisingly nice for the price. Selvedge and surprisingly slubby. I’d rather have the TCB but it’s closer than I’d have thought
Benji
Benji15mo ago
@daddyneedsadrink no yeah, I meant sugarcane my bad 😂 Thanks so much
ler
ler15mo ago
i have 1957s, they're teh made in usa ones so idc if sizing is consistent but i had to size up one
Benji
Benji15mo ago
@xmdot interesting, thank you. I may have to look for a store in nyc where I can try them on
ler
ler15mo ago
If you're comparing to another pair that fits that helps too, Denimio, Self-Edge etc have great measurements
Benji
Benji15mo ago
Thank you! Is their any downside to getting 12 oz sugar canes instead of the 14 oz?
daddyneedsadrink
daddyneedsadrink15mo ago
No
Benji
Benji15mo ago
Is $126 a fare price for a 70s lee 101j trucker jacket?
Legs
Legs15mo ago
Is that the blanket version or unlined? Depending on the condition it's probably a good deal for the former or a bit expensive for the latter.
Benji
Benji15mo ago
i don't see a lining? thank you for the help!
Zachary
Zachary15mo ago
Question about Levi's STF - I bought my regular size and have been wearing for ~4 months. If I do a cold tub soak, will I be able to wash them later in the machine on cold without any shrinkage?
s0up
s0up15mo ago
I have a pair of Oni's that are unsanforized but were one wash when I got them. They stretched out a decent amount from wear, did the first wash in the machine at 30c and they shrank back down but have stretched out again Doesn't directly answer your question but hopefully helps a little
SteezeTrain
SteezeTrain15mo ago
In my experience the waist wont shrink much and if it does it usually stretches back out after a couple wears. The big shrinking point is likely to be length. They will still shrink if they are immersed in water regardless of temp from my experience. hot water will just exacerbate the shrinking a bit more On my 2nd pair of stf's in the last 2 years and I lost about 2-3 inches in inseam each time I did the first wash holy shit a reseller with sane prices??
s0up
s0up15mo ago
Does anyone have any experience with TCB denim? Specifically how much stretch in the waist for the one wash?
Spuck
Spuck15mo ago
this might be a weird question but, why is there so much cheap second hand Acne Denim about, when they retail for a lot? I see loads for like 30-40 gbp which is Wrangler money
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan15mo ago
Same thing is true of APC it’s really weird, tons and tons of brand new pairs of jeans for like a third or less of retail
awburkey
awburkey15mo ago
Got to handle some Kapital no9 at Standard & Strange. V fun
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan15mo ago
Which color is that?
awburkey
awburkey15mo ago
Oh god idk. I don’t think I took a pic either
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan15mo ago
That’s okay haha I looked it up, it’s like a dark indigo Looks almost black
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae15mo ago
That’s the mud dyed one right?
awburkey
awburkey15mo ago
Was definitely kinda dark but I wouldn’t say black at all? More like a muddy indigo if anything
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan15mo ago
Oh yeah you right Just bad lighting on some of the pics That one fades crazy iirc
tijelu
tijelu15mo ago
Does anyone have recommendations for a black high rise straight fit selvedge? Preferably easy to get in Europe. I've mostly been able to find either high rise tapered or mid rise straights
s0up
s0up15mo ago
budget? how much are you willing to spend 💸
tijelu
tijelu15mo ago
I guess around 300 euro Have been looking at these, but they're mid rise https://www.ironhearteu.com/bottoms/ih-634s-142od.html
s0up
s0up15mo ago
You will be able to get something for a lot less than ironheart prices I will drop some suggestions
s0up
s0up15mo ago
Burg & Schild
SC41470 "Type III" 13oz Black Slim Fit
The black "SC41470 Type III" is an updated version of the classic "1947" and following "1947 Type II" model from Sugar Cane. It brings the classic details of the jeans from the late 1940s, packaged in a contemporary slim fit silhouette...
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae15mo ago
Indigofera Kirk
s0up
s0up15mo ago
Denimio.com | Momotaro Jeans, ONI DENIM, Samurai Jeans & Studio D'A...
The largest and most trusted retailer of premium Japanese denim brands. Free worldwide shipping!
Okayama Denim
Okayama Denim
Okayama Denim is a web store specializing in Japanese Selvege denim, all of which is produced in the famed denim manufacturing prefecture of Okayama.
s0up
s0up15mo ago
you will usually find better prices than buying from places outside Japan there are other sites but I can't remember them at the moment
tijelu
tijelu15mo ago
Thanks, will check it out But... muh Japanese motorcycle culture
s0up
s0up15mo ago
There's an insane markup on IH outside of Japan, like those jeans are probably around 200 euro to buy in Japan. Only reason I would avoid them
tijelu
tijelu15mo ago
Browsed around a bit and now I'm in love with Oni, which is even more expensive than Iron Heart
ler
ler15mo ago
for what it's worth i find Oni to be way nicer. They use really interesting denim whereas I find Iron Heart's whole thing is mostly just "really heavy denim"
s0up
s0up15mo ago
I haven't ever seen Oni more expensive than IH either, unless you are finding Oni from UK/European stores reselling it Hinoya.shop, Denimio etc usually have Oni in the around £150-170 range which is considerably less than you will pay for Iron Heart Sayin all this there's nothing wrong with Nudie or Naked & Famous unless you ask some japan jeans only snobs
tijelu
tijelu15mo ago
Oh yeah you're right, Denimio is much cheaper than where I was looking. Thanks
tijelu
tijelu15mo ago
never really understood what would be wrong with it, apart from:
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s0up
s0up15mo ago
the issue now is whatever you like will inevitably be out of stock lmao
tijelu
tijelu15mo ago
Yes, that was the case at the more expensive shops as well
tijelu
tijelu15mo ago
Redcast Heritage Co.
ONI Denim
The name of this iconic Japanese brand comes from the word ONI (Devil) and from the first thing many of us said the first time we touched its famous “secret denim”: “This denim is slubby like the devil”. Denimheads from around the world are fascinated by the incredibly slubby textures, irregular weave and low tension..
Spuck
Spuck15mo ago
reasonable prices
tijelu
tijelu15mo ago
tell that to my girlfriend please
Aaron 🍍
Aaron 🍍15mo ago
How do these Japanese brands get away with smallest size being 29
Bishel
Bishel15mo ago
Anyone ever try ALD’s denim? https://www.aimeleondore.com/products/ald-straight-fit-denim-4 Looking for a pair of denim with a slight taper in a similar medium wash without factory fades. I usually have to get denim hemmed to a 28” or 29” inseam which ends up making a lot of denim look too wide at the ankle for me. The Naked and Famous Easy Guys fit pretty great for me after a hem.
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan15mo ago
Brand tax cannot be worth it tbh
enrondidnothingwrong
Those look exactly like any pair of jeans you could get in the mall, and they’re not even selvedge.
Benji
Benji14mo ago
They look like my mid blue 505s which I got for $50 I mean it's probably somewhat better construction but I don't see how it's worth it
tijelu
tijelu14mo ago
Are japanese jeans totally different in sizing? The high waisted japanese jeans I'm looking at seem smaller in the waist but bigger on the hips than my 501's
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan14mo ago
All brands are different Different patterns different cuts different styles Higher rise jeans would typically be smaller in the waist than lower ones though And have more room in the hips
tijelu
tijelu14mo ago
Yes the waist is smaller ofc, but on the japanese jeans the waist seems to be even smaller and the hips larger?
ler
ler14mo ago
You’ll have to be more specific. Japanese denim isn’t the monolith people make it out to be.
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan14mo ago
I mean it’s just two different cuts of jeans
ler
ler14mo ago
all brand and their cuts are their own. Unless it’s a very deliberate repro
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan14mo ago
And repro 501s won’t be the same as modern Levi’s 501s anyway
tijelu
tijelu14mo ago
For example Levi's 501 size 36: waist 49 cm, hips 59cm. Oni 266sesr waist 45cm, hip 62.5
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan14mo ago
I guess I’m not sure what the question is Like is that normal? It’s like comparing an oversized t shirt and a slim t shirt and saying that the measurements are different Or are you asking if they will still fit you?
awburkey
awburkey14mo ago
The 266sesr are also unsanf
tijelu
tijelu14mo ago
I guess I am confused by similar fits (high waisted, straight, wide/relaxed) having different ratios between hips and waist. And not sure which one to follow to buy the right fit It's not the different measurement but the ratio
s0up
s0up14mo ago
I think most places are selling them one wash but make sure the sizes you're looking at are for post wash and not pre or you're gonna have a bad time
tijelu
tijelu14mo ago
They're one wash
s0up
s0up14mo ago
Do you like the fit of your 501s?
s0up
s0up14mo ago
best advice I would say is measure your Levi's following this guide https://www.denimio.com/sizing-guide/
s0up
s0up14mo ago
then compare your measurements to jeans on the Denimio site to see if the sizes will work You don't have to buy from there but different sellers will measure in different ways so if you follow that guide and use their sizes you will at least know the measurements relate to your Levi's
tijelu
tijelu14mo ago
I do, especially in the top block. They could be a bit wider downwards though Alright, thanks, will do. The hip isn't included here though The others are the same as I measured I guess the most logical thing would be to follow the same size on the waist If the rise is the same
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan14mo ago
Are the rises the same? Yeah that
s0up
s0up14mo ago
Bear in mind that those Oni's are 20oz so if any of the measurements are on the close to too small side they might end up feeling too small There will be a good amount of stretch in them over the first wears though
tijelu
tijelu14mo ago
Good to know. I just used these as an example though They do make me feel all sorts of nice stuff
tijelu
tijelu14mo ago
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tijelu
tijelu14mo ago
I mean
awburkey
awburkey14mo ago
The secret fabric is fab If the rise wasn’t so wonky on me I’d consider another pair
s0up
s0up14mo ago
I have a pair in the 246 very nice and super comfortable once you get past the initial roughness
awburkey
awburkey14mo ago
I feel like the back rise is super tall and the front is real low. So annoying Mine were like sweat pants
daddyneedsadrink
daddyneedsadrink14mo ago
If I were going to get oni jeans it would be the wide straights
tijelu
tijelu14mo ago
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Bishel
Bishel14mo ago
That’s what I figured, worth asking! It really depends on the brand. When I bought my OrSlow 107s from Blue Owl they were super responsive about sizing questions.
ler
ler14mo ago
Denimio is great for that too honestly, they'll get back to you super fast
awburkey
awburkey14mo ago
It’s with great regret that I inform you that my IH 888s no longer fit me well
LeisurelyLoafing
LeisurelyLoafing14mo ago
This is my problem with a lot of brands. Orslow’s back rise needs to be a touch longer imo as they don’t sit where they should given the long front rise. If you’re open to vintage, Levi’s 501xx (or 619 if you want a marginally smaller leg opening) can’t be beat unless selvedge is a must have. Berg and berg, Angloitalian, and Drake’s have what you want but you’ll pay a massive premium for what you get.
Bishel
Bishel14mo ago
The Drake’s denim is exactly what I want, maybe I’ll get lucky on an eBay search. This is the first I’ve heard of the 619, will check, thanks!
LeisurelyLoafing
LeisurelyLoafing14mo ago
Keep an eye on marrkt and grailed too - I’ve snagged three nwot pairs there. I prefer the older made in England version as the newer cut doesn’t work as well for me.
pablo
pablo14mo ago
Thoughts/experience with Edwin denim? Currently I could get a pair for around 100 Euro, wondering if I should pull the trigger
s0up
s0up14mo ago
Pretty sure they are pretty solid. One of the more original Japanese brands I think By original I mean they were founded in 1947 not original in terms design etc made their first jeans in 1961
tijelu
tijelu14mo ago
I had some Edwin selvedge skinnies back in the day and they were pretty nice. Nothing very special fabric or fit wise, but just decent quality for the price
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae14mo ago
Edwin and Evisu were my gateway to selvedge. Always a special place in my heart for them
s0up
s0up14mo ago
I was always put off of Evisu due to the giant white logo on the back of them I can remember them being everywhere in the early 2000s I think
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae14mo ago
I’m not really a huge fan of arcuates now, but back in the day I was enamored
tijelu
tijelu14mo ago
Which model are you looking at?
SteezeTrain
SteezeTrain14mo ago
Sometimes I like to do a released hem on a pair of jeans that's just a touch too short
SteezeTrain
SteezeTrain14mo ago
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SteezeTrain
SteezeTrain14mo ago
But generally when I raw hem I just let them strings strang
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae14mo ago
Nah because I like frayed edges and pretending I’m a beautiful Friesian horse frolicking on Dutch fields
tijelu
tijelu14mo ago
Why the slim fit?
pablo
pablo14mo ago
I just prefer it 🙂
Spuck
Spuck14mo ago
I have a pair as my go to everyday jeans, well worth 100 euro mine are a straight fit rainbow selvedge, the denim is good
pablo
pablo14mo ago
Bought it, let’s hope I picked the right size 🤞
SteezeTrain
SteezeTrain14mo ago
So are there any straight fit jeans with a good rise @ll.beansandrice seems like you have purchased a bunch I'm fine with my Levi's but want something more takemymoney
awburkey
awburkey14mo ago
My 888s are p good tho technically more of a mid rise. My 90s Levi’s are the best tbh
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae14mo ago
Sugar Cane 1947, Indigofera Kirk, Tender Co 125, Warehouse Lot 1000, Freewheelers 1947, Dawson Straight, Fullcount 0105
awburkey
awburkey14mo ago
great list
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae14mo ago
There’s prolly a lot more, but this is what sprung to my immediate mind. Some of these I’ve owned. Some are on the list of jeans to own someday
nathan
nathan14mo ago
I second the Sugar Cane 1947 rec. It is easily my favorite pair of jeans.
s0up
s0up14mo ago
TCB 30s another one
awburkey
awburkey14mo ago
There's some from more fashion-focused brands. I might still have links laying around
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae14mo ago
Ah yes, any jean from Studio Nicholson has a decent rise, Black Horse Lane Atelier, Trophy, and Scott Fraser Collection also have jeans with dope rises, though may be a little wider than desired. Ooe and Conor’s Sewing Factory makes very cool jeans but hard to acquire outside Japan. I think it’s prolly the best value straight leg selvedge. Denim is very good for the price point and the fit is superb.
Benji
Benji14mo ago
I've been eyeing those as a potential future buy, they are like $150 and they have one wash rather than raw ones Feeling very comfy in my 505s rn tho lol The sugar canes I mean
Benji
Benji14mo ago
would be $111 with the discount it'd be more ethical to thrift these tho
SteezeTrain
SteezeTrain14mo ago
I might swoop these 15% off this week with one of their codes
daddyneedsadrink
daddyneedsadrink14mo ago
my fullcount 1101 are straight leg with a decent rise freewheelers 601 sugar cane 1955 too samurai s510
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae14mo ago
Also a very good list
daddyneedsadrink
daddyneedsadrink14mo ago
as you might be able to tell i have too many pants
Benji
Benji14mo ago
what's the ideal number of jeans 😂
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae14mo ago
N+1
Benji
Benji14mo ago
how's edwin vs sugarcane out of curiosity?
SteezeTrain
SteezeTrain14mo ago
I bought the oni wides. I was mistaken on the code tho sorry But I have been trying to find them in stock and they are sold out everywhere so I pulled the trigger Been dragging my feet on these vs the fullcount wide for 2-3 months so the impulse buy might have gotten the best of me
ler
ler14mo ago
One wash is still raw
Benji
Benji14mo ago
I didn't know that thank you! But will one wash still shrink like raw denim when washed?
ler
ler14mo ago
What you want to key in on is sanforized vs unsanforized. Sanforized you won't get much shrinkage if any, Unsanforized will shrink. One wash usually implies an unsanforized denim has been washed or rinsed to get all the shrinkage out. That's why it's super helpful that sites like Denimio will often list both the "raw" and "one washed" measurements, but they're still considered Raw. Also gonna second (third? fourth) 1947s. I have the MiUSA ones but I think the cut is still the same as the regulars and I like that they're actually closer to a 50s cut than an LVC 1947.
Benji
Benji14mo ago
Thank you!
Spuck
Spuck14mo ago
not sure where you are, but Sugar Canes are twice the price here
s0up
s0up14mo ago
Pretty much identical price for Edwin and Sugar Cane on denimio
Spuck
Spuck14mo ago
oh, thats a much cheaper site than I was looking at
Spuck
Spuck14mo ago
ONI266-SESR 20oz Secret Super Rough Denim Relax Straight
Not many people know this but the spinning mill that made the yarn for the original secret denim was destroyed in a fire. ONI was able to reproduce most of the texture of the fabric but a certain roughness remained elusive. Until now! By combining the yarn and weave structure of the Asphalt Denim with with the warp and weft dye of the Secret De...
ler
ler14mo ago
denimio is the best honestly, and their customer service is always super helpful
Spuck
Spuck14mo ago
ah fuck free shipping as well, you've done me in here
s0up
s0up14mo ago
I've ordered from them twice to the UK. Both times I've selected the option at shipping for them to mark it as a 2000yen fabirc sample. Escaped customs charges so far and they arrive in around 48 hours from japan with free shipping xd turns up faster than buying things from retailers in the UK
ler
ler14mo ago
I got hit with small duties when I shipped to Canada but Canada customs is really diligent. And yeah, the shipping was unfathomably fast.
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Shipping with denimio was so fast I almost wanted to ask if there was another option "excuse me, my jeans are not such an emergency that they need to be shipped literally across the globe at the fastest speeds possible"
s0up
s0up14mo ago
That FedEx flight is happening with or without your jawns haha That's now I justify it to myself at least
SteezeTrain
SteezeTrain14mo ago
Did they send you tracking numbers in the past. Ordered something last week and don't have order confirmation email yet and now scared it is sold out and about to get my order cancelled xd
s0up
s0up14mo ago
Takes a few days to ship if you didn't pay for the fast shipping option. If you log into your account it should give the order status there I think it was three or four days from placing the order to shipping on my last one
daddyneedsadrink
daddyneedsadrink14mo ago
Maybe check in this week. Since they’re basically drop shipping they might not actually be able to obtain the jeans you ordered
ler
ler14mo ago
Dropshipping? I thought they acted as a middle-man for certain pairs but the majority of them they stocked themselves. Just start a chat with their customer service if you’re worried, they’re helpful.
daddyneedsadrink
daddyneedsadrink14mo ago
I meant to say they will just go to a store and buy the jeans you order and ship them And in the case of Okayama denim they just have piss poor inventory management and are frequently sold out of things that show as available on their site
ler
ler14mo ago
Denimio only does that for items labelled as 'proxy' I think?
s stands for nothing
Yes they did, but I havent ordered since 2020 so my experience might not be relevant
eggchongo
eggchongo12mo ago
i think i'm ready for my first Good jeans after so many disappointing purchases from levi/uniqlo i keep hearing Sugar Cane 1947s and I like the look of 'em where should I buy and how do I know which size is the right for me?
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae12mo ago
Hinoya usually has the best price but worth checking Denimio as well. Size up one from true waist size
eggchongo
eggchongo12mo ago
is hinoya best price even with shipping?
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae12mo ago
Yeah usually
eggchongo
eggchongo12mo ago
cool i have a fear of buying these fancy jeans and having them not fit or not liking the loook
Carney
Carney12mo ago
I feel like this is just part of the process for a lot of us who are into denim 😓
elbarto 🐒
elbarto 🐒12mo ago
Really just gotta nail down your proper measurements and it will make things much easier
s0up
s0up12mo ago
Hinoya probably your best bet for now as Denimio have only size 28 listed, I would check as they have some Black Friday deals listed but I didn't look at what they are Also what elbarto said, find the measuring guide on the site that you intend to buy from and measure a pair of jeans/pants you like the fit of to compare the sizes against the jeans you want to buy
Zachary
Zachary12mo ago
Over break I did a tub soak/first wash on my 501s. They shrunk up pretty much exactly how I wanted and as a bonus they feel even more comfortable now! I'm not sure if you can tell much a difference, but here's the before/after.
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goofus
goofus12mo ago
Really glad I went with the Pure Blue Japan WSB-019. Fit, material, and slub is incredible. Got it from a chicago company called Mildblend Supply Company
enrondidnothingwrong
What fit did you go with? I am in love with my WSB 003s
ler
ler10mo ago
Looks like Roy from ROY Denim was selling some old pieces (may be all gone now). Kind of cool to see that name pop up again https://roydenim.com/ Site is super super slow though
KenD
KenD10mo ago
Thats a name I havent heard in ages $600 for a pair of denim is steep tho All sold out
ler
ler10mo ago
Oh damn. I couldn’t get it to load, didn’t see the $600.
CrispySmokyFrazzles
I’ve been trying to bleach a pair of old Uniqlo selvedge that I otherwise wouldn’t be wearing. Tried 3 times with varying quantities - they’ve definitely lightened (not as much as I’d like) but it seems like you really do need to use a LOT 😂
ler
ler10mo ago
or let it sit for a long time
CrispySmokyFrazzles
Hmm yeah, maybe that’s worth a try at the weekend Edit: Or now xd they've definitely lightened now - not BRIGHT but bright enough. I'm happy I'm going to get more use out of a garment that otherwise would've just sat in the wardrobe.
Michael
Michael10mo ago
what was your full process?
CrispySmokyFrazzles
a very unscientific process tbh just filled up the bathtube with enough water for them to be fully covered, and then added bleach to begin with I was measuring by capfuls, but by the 3rd/4th attempt I was literally just pouring in bleach and then checking to see if they looked any lighter - and then adding more if it didn't seem like any change occurred. Left them around 2-3 hours each time - rotating every half hour or so then rinsed them, then washed them a couple of times
Bishel
Bishel10mo ago
Trying to find some good mid-wash denim in a color similar to that of ALD’s straight fit but with a higher rise and a slight taper. I like these for the color and lack of distressing. https://www.aimeleondore.com/products/ald-straight-fit-denim-4 Asket’s mid-wash is looking like my best bet. Any other recommendations in a similar fit?
s0up
s0up10mo ago
what about Orslow in the 2 year wash?
s0up
s0up10mo ago
Kafka Mercantile
107 Slim Fit 2 Year Wash Jean - Washed at Kafka Mercantile
The 107 Ivy Fit 2 Year Wash Jean by orSlow is a slim fit fade out laundered denim. These are a super authentic take on classic Americana. The jeans are crafted in a 13.5 Oz Japanese Denim and feature a classic five pocket set up, white selvedge and twisted right leg. The fit is slim to regular. - 100% Cotton- 13.5oz Laundered Selvedge Japanese D...
s0up
s0up10mo ago
You will be able to find them for less than the price shown there, I just shared that link as an example
faatsu
faatsu10mo ago
Norse projects regular or relaxed denim in "vintage indigo" Well rise might be about the same
Bishel
Bishel10mo ago
I do like my rinsed OrSlows, might need to keep an eye out. Didn’t consider Norse Projects, thanks!
faatsu
faatsu10mo ago
They are quite nice. I actually have a pair of the regular jeans size 29, I feel like they are more of a slim straight than straight. But I sized down from my usual size of 30 so that may be why
goofus
goofus10mo ago
I like berg and berg’s washed denim, a bit pricey though. Also Borali for a cheaper option in europe
KenD
KenD10mo ago
Anyone have experience with Maruni Jeans? There doesn’t seem to be a lot of info online. They seem to be affiliated with Oni Denim (?)
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE10mo ago
Considering these as good comfy jeans I can wear at home and out Hybrid Regular Tapered Joggers https://www2.hm.com/en_au/productpage.1013317002.html Hybrid Regular Tapered Joggers https://www2.hm.com/en_au/productpage.1013317006.html
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE10mo ago
Don’t know if I should go for denim blue or black
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SteezeTrain
SteezeTrain10mo ago
I think these look really bad and you would be better off just buying something else not from HM Sorry if that is harsh ❤️ I think if you want sweat pants you should just buy some sweatpants.
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE10mo ago
That’s fair on both counts, just thought it’d be nice to have denim style that I can also lounge around in y’know? Or maybe I should just look for fun joggers?
KenD
KenD10mo ago
I feel Easy Pants (elastic waist, no cuffs at hem) are a better execution than the denim jogger hybrid. And you can get them in a denim fabric if that’s your thing
KenD
KenD10mo ago
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KenD
KenD10mo ago
The next question tho is there something inherently about denim that isn’t comfortable to you? Denim’s pretty comfy to lounge about imo
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE10mo ago
It’s more the heavy structure with a belt mainly. If I wanna lounge I don’t to be dealing with a belt, y’know? Btw, link?
KenD
KenD10mo ago
Ah my bad, forgot that i shouldnt delete photos https://www.muji.com/sg/products/cmdty/quick/4550583086961 i was thinking about these Muji ones
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE10mo ago
I am a fan of Muji
awburkey
awburkey10mo ago
You can’t lounge around in jeans?
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE10mo ago
Of course I can but not dealing with stiff pants structure and a belt is nicer I might look at Carhartt and Muji tomorrow to see what works best for me
Zachary
Zachary10mo ago
Anyone know where I can find Oni's 200 cut in the US? I've found some retailers online and they're all out of stock
s0up
s0up10mo ago
Blue Beach Denim
【ONI DENIM】 ONI200 Low Tension Wide Straight Jeans 15oz
ONI-200 Low Tension Wide Straight Jeans 15oz Desciption ONI200 uses old looms that have been in service for decades to bring classic denim pants similar to the 1950s. Mr. Oishi, the manager, not only specializes in the innovation of special fabrics, but also remains passionate about retro making, and adjusts them throu
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s0up
s0up10mo ago
Not US but they ship internationally Haven't seen them in stock anywhere else
Zachary
Zachary9mo ago
Thanks!
s0up
s0up9mo ago
You're welcome! Did you get a pair? Interested to see these in a fit haha
AceGrains
AceGrains9mo ago
Have any of y'all ever used this website? They have a ton of Japanese clothing, including tons of denim, for kinda crazy low prices, low enough I'm worried it is a scam site or something. https://www.newfashionfinery.com/
ler
ler9mo ago
99.9% a scam, looks like the same web template all the other dupe sites use when tehy clone a real store their address appears to not exist
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae9mo ago
Yeah this looks like they cloned Hinoya
ler
ler9mo ago
yup
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AceGrains
AceGrains9mo ago
I knew it was too good to be true! It's remarkable to me that there's enough people lusting after these Japanese brands that it's worth it to try and scam some of them. I figured there's, like, ten of us.
Spuck
Spuck9mo ago
cost is near zero to set these sites up so it still works
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE9mo ago
Is Assembly Label, Unison, or Article One good choices for jeans?
ler
ler9mo ago
Personally I have not heard of any of these.
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE9mo ago
They’re Aussie brands/labels
KenD
KenD9mo ago
Assembly label is alright. I’d compare it to like Country Road. Decent depending on what you’re after. Never heard of the other two Have you considered more denim forward brands like Neuw?
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE9mo ago
I haven’t yet but maybe. My old Country Road black jeans which I wore almost every day for years finally died after getting too many non serviceable holes. So I’m looking for a replacement which can last just as long or longer Article One is a newish brand from Sydney and Unison used to be called French Connection but it’s now Australian owned iirc
KenD
KenD9mo ago
I’m getting the sense that you’re after something Aussie focused over say bigger brands like uniqlo or COS? I owned Neuw black denim probably 4-5 years back and they were good. Fabric was thicker than most other mass market denim. I haven’t handled any of their recent stuff though. I should probably check out article one out of interest
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE9mo ago
Yeah I’ve tried a few Uniqlo jeans and didn’t like the shape too much. Also Cos isn’t really a thing here
KenD
KenD9mo ago
Sorry assumed you’re in Syd and we definitely have a few COS stores
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE9mo ago
All g
jonnny boy
jonnny boy9mo ago
wranglers are the best jeans
ler
ler9mo ago
Accidentally cooked the patch on my Sugar Canes on my last wash. Was on handwashing autopilot and put some oxiclean in with the soak.
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ler
ler9mo ago
Jeans look fine though, I'm not super concerned about it tbh
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan9mo ago
Nah looks good tbh
ler
ler9mo ago
yeah it mostly just fucked up the dye on it, ill condition the leather a bit because it dried out but it is what it is
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE7mo ago
Any recommendations on buying selvage for the first time?
The Good Morning Man
If you end up wanting cool Japanese stuff for a decent price, denimio is your friend
s0up
s0up7mo ago
Compare sizing charts against jeans you already own that fit how you want Denimio as said above have a faq on their website showing you how they measure Others are Hinoya, Okayama Denim and Rodeo Japan Pine Avenue
Legs
Legs7mo ago
Make sure you know if what you're buying is completely raw vs one-wash vs sanforized vs washed and how much shrink & stretch it's likely to have as a result.
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE7mo ago
I usually go for light/faded and black. I have only bought slim fit so I would like to try something different
Legs
Legs7mo ago
Did you want vintage or new?
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE7mo ago
New Is lightweight selvage a thing?
Zachary
Zachary7mo ago
Yes, some brands make a light weight denim. Usually it’s around 11-12oz and might have some polyester to add stretch Off the top of my head - 3sixteen has made a light weight in the past, N&F and Unbranded make a light weight selvedge. Does anyone know what brands use Vidalia Mills denim? I’m looking for something similar to the 3sixteen relaxed straight cut.
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE7mo ago
I’m in Australia and the only two brands I know that have stores here that sell selvage (or selvage styled) is Nudie Jeans and Uniqlo on a technicality
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE7mo ago
Tate + Yoko
Super Guy - Kimono Print Selvedge
The Kimono Print Selvedge is a 12.5oz Japanese Selvedge Denim woven on vintage shuttle looms in Okayama, Japan. The exterior warp is indigo rope dyed, giving the denim a deep color that will fade beautifully with wear. On the inside, you'll find a traditional Japanese kimono pattern printed on the weft, adding a touch
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Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE7mo ago
As someone who always cuffs my jeans having something interesting to show off would be fun, hence why I am looking at Selvage denim But the problem is that it’s button fly
s stands for nothing
i love button flys. Unless you have experience with one and know you dont like it, id recommend giving it a try
ler
ler7mo ago
Selvedge is going to be button fly 9/10 times. This is a super super skinny cut just FYI. I don't like the print but that's personal so up to you though.
justlooking
justlooking7mo ago
Almost all of my favorite pairs of jeans are button fly. I prefer them over zippers n&f has a lot of interesting stuff but none of their cuts work very well for me and I end up selling or donating every pair I get
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE7mo ago
Yeah I’ve tried a few times before and didn’t like it I also want to go either my usual which slim fit or try something one step above
zacheadams
zacheadams7mo ago
da skinnies for today
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AndrewA
AndrewA7mo ago
Left Field NYC is the big one that does. The Smokestack cut is the closest to the RS
Zachary
Zachary7mo ago
Cool thanks!
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE7mo ago
Are Nudie Jeans a good choice for Selvage denim? There's a Nudie shop in my city and it's also a repair shop
s0up
s0up7mo ago
I'm a fan of nudie stuff. I don't have any jeans from them but I've got a couple pairs of pants and I like them
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE7mo ago
Don't they have lifetime free repairs?
s0up
s0up7mo ago
I believe so yeh
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE7mo ago
That's pretty cool, especially living near a repair shop
s0up
s0up7mo ago
You have to take them to a store in person but that won't be a problem for you loving near one
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE7mo ago
definitely
s0up
s0up7mo ago
Good thing with them having a store near you is you can try on the different cuts and find one that works for you
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE7mo ago
I'm mainly looking to first replace my old reliable black jeans that lasted 5-7 years of course, maybe try something that I wouldn't usually try First goal is black denim with a zipper fly, I hate button flies
ler
ler7mo ago
Why the hate for button flies? You've mentioned it a few times. Personally, I prefer button fly.
tun🌻
tun🌻7mo ago
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tun🌻
tun🌻7mo ago
The eternal debate
The Good Morning Man
This is where chaps really get the job done No fly Easy access
Legs
Legs7mo ago
It's funny, zipper flies are a huge turn off for me at this point with any kind of casual pants.
zacheadams
zacheadams7mo ago
I have both but I do prefer zipper the weird problem with buttons is I find that the top button bends inward more on button flies and can cause like a bruise/pain on the skin where it's next to I do not know what causes this but it occurs in both my tighter fit and looser fit, sized-down and sized-up jeans
kstocks
kstocks7mo ago
I like the button fly because it's fun to open
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE7mo ago
I've had that before and it isn't fun
sorrynodice
sorrynodice7mo ago
Nudie is great. They have a ton of different cuts, so if you're near a store, I recommend trying on a few different pairs. I have a western-style denim shirt from them that I wear all the time.
CrispySmokyFrazzles
Oh, definitely this 👆 Plus I’m far less likely to leave buttons undone, as opposed to a zip fly…
tijelu
tijelu7mo ago
It's months later and I forgot to post here but I got these in the end and I love them Has anyone here taken advantage of the yen yet?
justlooking
justlooking7mo ago
Spent a couple of weeks in Japan last month and spent a good chunk of change. Considering heading back in a few months if rates are still favorable
The Good Morning Man
Too frequently
s0up
s0up7mo ago
Me looking at my items sitting in the japanrabbit warehouse 👁️ 👄 👁️
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE6mo ago
Found some Nudie Selvage Jeans that I like https://www.nudiejeans.com/product/lean-dean-dry-black-selvage
Lean Dean Dry Black Selvage
Without a doubt a favorite of ours - the almighty slim, tapered, fit Lean Dean in a crispy dry black comfort stretch selvage denim.
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE6mo ago
In the colour that I need (to replace my old black jeans) And reasonably affordable with a zip fly Never bought selvage/expensive jeans before, what is the major differences between them and something like Uniqlo jeans?
ler
ler6mo ago
Not familiar with nudie myself but generally it's a quality jump. Although these do have stretch in them. Selvedge is not necessarily an indicator of quality though. (I've heard of Nudie, I just mean I haven't worn any)
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE6mo ago
Of course, but they are more expensive than regular jeans so I hope there is a noticeable difference in quality Also stretch is also a nice addition imo
ler
ler6mo ago
I'd assume the fit is more dialled in too. That pair's more slim than what's on trend but it's a pretty classic Nudie fit.
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE6mo ago
I usually wear slim fit so it’s not a major departure from my norm, main difference is material and hopefully quality I am also looking Nudie as it’s probably the only local option for selvage (other than Uniqlo haha)
ler
ler6mo ago
black nudie jeans tend to look pretty good when they're beat up. i wouldn't do the 'wait 6 months before washing' thing they have on their site though because slimmer cuts like that are more prone to crotch blowout
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE6mo ago
They also have a repair shop and supposedly lifetime free repairs I agree. I’d probably give it a month or two as that’s basically what I used to do with my old regular jeans I’d also like to get something in a more faded and looser cut, maybe something good for Aussie Summer would be awesome But that might be a future venture
ler
ler6mo ago
Fading it yourself will look better. Or buying someone else's beat up pair. Pre-faded honestly doesn't look great IMO. But they're just jeans. Gotta wear what you like.
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE6mo ago
Of course I love the idea of your own pair fading with you over time, shows character and personality But it does take time If anybody else has experience with Nudie jeans let me know
tijelu
tijelu6mo ago
Nudie is known to have a lighter weight and more stretch than most selvedge brands. The ones you posted are like that as well: 12.7 oz and 'comfort stretch'. r/rawdenim, or the 'traditional' denimheads hate it for this reason: they are dogmatic for heavy and 100% cotton. If you want to go slim and stretchy, nudie is great. It's a bit dated, but so is obsessing about heavy weight denim. So yeah wear what you like
Spuck
Spuck6mo ago
I've had Nudie and Uniqlo selvedge jeans. The Nudies were nicer, but not in a life changing sort of a way. In that sort of price range, Unbranded, EDwin and others are available and worth looking at
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE6mo ago
Living in a humid climate I’d only get to wear heavy denim when I travel overseas so it’s not worth it. I also usually wear “dated” items because they are more comfortable for me and work better for me Even though Nudie is almost 6-7 times the price of Uniqlo??
Spuck
Spuck6mo ago
Wait really? They come out at about..double, 1.5 times really. If theyre like 300 bucks there are for sure better options
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE6mo ago
Uniqlo Selvedge: $59.90 AUD Nudie Selvedge Jeans: $350 AUD
Spuck
Spuck6mo ago
Whew lad! Yeah I think there's a LOT of choice at that price point Maybe they just jacked up the prices a lot since I paid ~120 GBP
s0up
s0up6mo ago
they're around £150 now I think but still not as high as the AUD price oh actually scratch that the selvedge stuff is ridiculously expensive
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE6mo ago
Yeah it seems Selvedge is priced as extra premium down here And it’s weird because there’s a Nudie store in my city and they’re still expensive
ler
ler6mo ago
There is not a world where I'm paying that much for stretch Nudie jeans
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE6mo ago
If it was $250AUD maybe But $350AUD nah And that’s the cheapest option too
ler
ler6mo ago
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ler6mo ago
Two random ones from Denimio. You can get a pair of Left Field's for less than that.
s0up
s0up6mo ago
My rec would be to grab something from denimio, bears or one of the similar JP based web stores they will usually offer free shipping and some will declare the item low/as a sample on the paperwork I would also avoid stretch personally as the stretch fibres have a tendency to wear out quicker than the cotton as far as I can tell
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE6mo ago
I also prefer lighter weight garments as I live in a humid climate So I don’t need any heavyweight raw denim
s0up
s0up6mo ago
weight isn't the only factor, the tightness of the weave will make a difference also
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE6mo ago
I don’t want anything too restrictive, hence why I was considering stretch fabric
ler
ler6mo ago
But if they need stretch to not be restrictive then maybe it's not the material but the cut that's the problem. Both those cuts are slim-tapered like the Nudie's you liked.
s0up
s0up6mo ago
they are 15.7oz btw and momotaro have a very tight weave in their jeans
ler
ler6mo ago
a left hand twill could be a good option. but i hear you about living in australia and not wanting it to be too heavy, im in canada and i basically can't wear jeans most of the summer lol
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE6mo ago
I hate wearing shorts so I often resort to linen blend pants but they require so much maintenance
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE6mo ago
Faded Purple jeans would go :hard: What is considered lightweight selvedge? 15oz?
ler
ler6mo ago
No, that's on the heavier side. I think 11-12oz is standard. The Nudie's you were looking at were 12.75 But like Soup said sometimes the weave can also play into the heaviness or breathability of the fabric. I also don't mean to discourage you either, like if the Nudie's feel like the move, do your thing. They're just jeans. But I do think there's maybe better options for the price.
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE6mo ago
Got it so anything under 13 should be fine But maybe try for 10 if possible
ler
ler6mo ago
looks like this Aussie shop sells that cut of Japan Blues https://corlection.com/collections/denim/products/japan-blue-14oz-double-black-circle-denim-slim-tapered-fit?_pos=14&_fid=57736bdc8&_ss=c&variant=42796372328501 They also have PBJs for only a few bucks more than the Nudie's and there's a huge jump in quality between those two, fabric-wise.
CORLECTION
Japan Blue 14oz Double Black 'Circle' Denim (Slim Tapered Fit)
Japan Blue... in Black!  Easy to wear and super-stylish, Japan Blue always has a place in anybody's wardrobe. To round out all indigo blue offerings we stock we're pleased as punch to prsent their "Black Denim" line.  Made entirely in Japan from 14oz selvedge denim, these are 'All-Season' denim made with all the JB fin
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ler
ler6mo ago
Maplestore
Mens Denim
Since 2003, denim has formed the cornerstone of our business, whether it's a pair of heritage five pockets from Levis', raw rigid Japanese denim from Sugarcane, or the softest washed back pair from Nudie. Most of the brands we carry have a rich story behind them, earning their place as premium makers of the world's bes
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Blue Works Vintage Clothing Store
BlueWorks American casual men's clothing
We have huge range of Japanese denim and American casual style clothing,trying to give you unique experience.
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE6mo ago
Awesome, thank you so much I’m going to have a fun late night researching selvedge denim haha From a quick glance I really like the accents of momotaro and tanuki jeans
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE6mo ago
I don’t even know what material that is but I love it Looks comfy as hell But looks pretty profesh and hard
Spuck
Spuck6mo ago
Its a pretty unique kind of denim with thicker threads woven through it
yung_flynn
yung_flynn6mo ago
If you're set on a black slim fitting pair, Full Count 1108BK would be good if you can find your size. https://www.celluloid1984.com/?pid=177697070
セルロイド CELLULOID
フルカウント 1108BK SLIM STRAIGHT BLACK SELVEDGE DENIM スリムストレート ブラックセルビッチ...
CELLULOID(セルロイド)はリアルマッコイズ・フェローズ・フルカウント・ウエアハウス・サムライジーンズ・クッシュマン・デラックスウエア・ウエス・ウエスコ・ホワイツブーツ・ワイツーレザー・ファーストアローズ正規取扱店.
yung_flynn
yung_flynn6mo ago
BEARS' -TOKYO-
SUGAR CANE
[SUGAR CANE, SC41470, 1947model typr3 13oz Black Denim SLIM FIT]denimThis model inherits the luxury and politeness found in jeans in the latter half of the 40's, similar to the representative model of SUGAR CANE, 1947 MODEL, but the silhouette is relatively thin.We have developed and used 13 ounces of selvage black den
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yung_flynn
yung_flynn6mo ago
Both shops linked here should be pretty painless to order from. If your open to wider or indigo pairs for summer Full Count 0105 (especially super smooth version) or Resolute 711 should be good options
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE6mo ago
Both look great but I want to find something with a zip fly
el ombre
el ombre6mo ago
What jeans work well in a hot/~humid climate? My thighs are growing out of my 514s. Not planning grow em further as my upper body has a ways to catch up. I assume I should avoid high-rise as I'm 5'9" with a short torso, look for 12oz wt for heat, and do straight with a slight taper so I don't look too bottom-heavy. $150-200 budget I see that Sugarcane 1947s are mentioned here and on r/rawdenim a lot but they are 14oz and high-rise. JapanBlue has lighter weight and the J304/J305s look like a great fit. Is 12 vs 14oz noticeable? What do you guys recommend?
ler
ler6mo ago
12/14 isn't noticeable in my experience but I don't wear either much during the summer. 1947s are amazing but don't have the taper you seem to want. I have no idea why you'd need to avoid high rise though.
kyn
kyn6mo ago
Plenty of people your height and shorter make high rise look good every day!
kstocks
kstocks6mo ago
As a fellow short boy I actually really like high rise pants/jeans
el ombre
el ombre6mo ago
Oh that's encouraging bc I actually love the high-rise look and the 1947 cut looks great I just thought they'd make my torso look even shorter relative to legs
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae6mo ago
Almost everything I wear is high rise and I’m 5’5” don’t avoid high rise
el ombre
el ombre6mo ago
awesome thanks for all the help!
kyn
kyn6mo ago
Def check out their fits in #waywt for inspiration!
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae6mo ago
1947s one of the best raws for the $$$ imo
yung_flynn
yung_flynn6mo ago
Full Count 0105 (wide straight) or 1101 shoulde be good summer jeans - the new super smooth version shoud be especially so. Resolute 711 is a good straight leg, lower rise, lightweight pair. TCB 20s as well if you like the back cinch, suspenders, and belt loop combo (or at least don't mind)
ler
ler6mo ago
coming from 514s to 0105s would be a crazy jump, i'd love to seet hat
yung_flynn
yung_flynn6mo ago
Yeah they definitely would not fit the same as 514, but based on what I've heard from others they are super comfortable and first pair that comes to mind as a summer suggestion for others (new inseam too short for me). Wide fit should give good airflow too which is nice in summer. Resolute 710 (high rise, comparable legs) or 711 (comparable rise, wider leg)would be closer matches to 514
segmund
segmund6mo ago
I have these and they're great for summer: https://www.nakedandfamousdenim.com/en/sky-high-selvedge
Naked & Famous Denim
Sky High Selvedge | Naked & Famous Denim
The Sky High Selvedge is a 10oz lightweight Japanese Selvedge broken t will denim denim made with a blend of cotton and 18% real hemp fibers. Hemp fibers are naturally 4x stronger than cotton and provide extra durability for this lightweight denim. The color is a pale light blue inspired by vintage
zacheadams
zacheadams6mo ago
today I wore 14.5oz black iron hearts in 80F w/full sun because I forgot my shorts at home because I am a fucking idiot
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That’s my nightmare I’m a cold weather creature
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We have a pretty substantial range of japanese denim around What city are you from? Oops nvm scrolled further and can see you were already recommended stuff
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE6mo ago
Brisbane btw Always happy to hear other recommendations
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Ah yeah Melbourne sydney and perth im pretty sure all have places But idk about brissy
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE6mo ago
Classic situation haha
ler
ler6mo ago
damn naked and famous actually made their april fools jeans with teh 100" inseam
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ler6mo ago
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ler
ler6mo ago
guy on /rawdenim posted it. said only 20 exist. hilarious bit but i cant imagine trying to walk in these
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE6mo ago
The feeling would be weird I imagine, also the sound
The Good Morning Man
those are legitimately great someone could pull some fully next level fits with those not workwear style I would presume
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just get them hemmed and they will be fine
zacheadams
zacheadams6mo ago
they'd be good as wall decoration especially if you have 11'+ ceilings
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE6mo ago
Or hang them like a tapestry on the ceiling
kyn
kyn6mo ago
well well well
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE5mo ago
Regular Tapered Jeans
Julius is 184cm tall and is wearing Size 32/32.
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE5mo ago
Lightweight, light blue colour (two options), some stretch, zip fly, and reasonably priced
Spuck
Spuck5mo ago
Edwin make very solid denim, good pick.
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE5mo ago
Tate + Yoko
Easy Guy - Kimono Print Selvedge
The Kimono Print Selvedge is a 12.5oz Japanese Selvedge Denim woven on vintage shuttle looms in Okayama, Japan. The exterior warp is indigo rope dyed, giving the denim a deep color that will fade beautifully with wear. On the inside, you'll find a traditional Japanese kimono pattern printed on the weft, adding a touch
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tijelu
tijelu5mo ago
I really love the 2 year wash fabric from orslow but unfortunately i'm too poor
tijelu
tijelu5mo ago
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yung_flynn
yung_flynn5mo ago
If you search around, you can usually find some pre-worn pairs of other Japanese brands that have been worn to a similar level by their original owners. There are especially lots on Yahoo Auctions
yung_flynn
yung_flynn5mo ago
Grailed
Denime Denime XX Vintage Denim | Grailed
Searching for Denime XX Vintage Denim? We’ve got Denime Men's Bottoms starting at $75 and plenty of other Men's Bottoms. Shop our selection of Denime today!
yung_flynn
yung_flynn5mo ago
Another good one (linked from a good proxy and listing compiler) https://www.fromjapan.co.jp/japan/en/auction/yahoo/input/v1128648525
menace
menace5mo ago
my best pair of jeans (fit) were from hnm tragically, they a light blue but came in other colors but i like light blue jeans and the cut was loose boot cut, it gives the most baggy looking jeans from all angles at all times without adjustments howd you have to with normal loose or actually baggy jeans. but bc they were from hnm that means theyre gone now and wont come back till they cycle thru their repeat list actually worked there so have extra info on their recycling of whats next to produce so the first iteration of anything usually comes from china if you see a past item youve purchase come back has been reproduced by a different supplier which is the iffy part and the most shit supplier of hnm comes from bangaladesh, pants being off(compared to first iteration) in texture, feel and quality of fabric. shirts if made with patterned fabric has misalignments wheter it be w sleeves or pockets
tijelu
tijelu5mo ago
Sure, the problem is that most of those are slim cuts though
max
max5mo ago
ime these can be found for pretty cheap second hand
sorrynodice
sorrynodice5mo ago
Man these Studio Ghibli x Studio D'Artisan jeans are so cool. I'm not into the buckle-back thing, but I love the plane detail with the contrail. I bet the fabric is great too. https://www.donguri-sora.com/category/RESTOCK/V44388.html
hpminecraft
hpminecraft5mo ago
I'm looking into medium blue jeans and I'm liking this grainer fabric as opposed to a smooth solid blue. what is this type of denim called?
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stonewashed
hpminecraft
hpminecraft5mo ago
these jeans run for 200. these are 60
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bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan5mo ago
These are sick, I love my studio d’artisans
ler
ler5mo ago
Could be lots of reasons for the price difference, could also just be BS markup. Top pair looks a little straighter? Do either pair have elastane in them?
catwillmew
catwillmew5mo ago
I wish uniqlo carried their selvedge jeans in wider cuts. They've been my go-to for "I want a new pair of jeans but I don't want to spend $250 on a new pair of jeans" for ages
eggchongo
eggchongo5mo ago
Yeah I love their black selvedge jeans but they only make em slim fit
Yakkeks
Yakkeks5mo ago
On the danger of reviving a stupid shambling monstrosity of a discussion: How often do y'all wash your denim? Because that seems to be a bit of a discussion.
ler
ler5mo ago
honestly? when i feel like i need to i dont think much of it otherwise. i def don't do the 'wait 6 months', 12 months' thing anymore
s0up
s0up5mo ago
My go to will be if I've consistently worn a pair for a couple weeks I'll wash them other than that, if I spill something on them or otherwise get them dirty they get washed also this, I don't want high contrast fades
ler
ler5mo ago
my last wash was because i started to see some cool bright blues pop through in late april so i was like "i'm gonna wash these in june" and i wore 'em kinda hard in may but just follow your heart @Leo (Yakkeks). i feel like you can kind of tell when it's time
s0up
s0up5mo ago
yeh two weeks could be too often for some people, I'm usually wearing them at work so they get more dirt from metal, me kneeling on the floor etc
Yakkeks
Yakkeks5mo ago
🫡
catwillmew
catwillmew5mo ago
Usually when I sniff it and go "this needs washed" I have a lot of pairs though.
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae5mo ago
This though. It could be a year, it could be after 3 wears. I just wash em when I get stuff on them or they feel like they need it
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anywhere between one wear and two weeks or so, depending on what ive been up to and how clean I'm feeling
Legs
Legs5mo ago
2-4 weeks for the pairs I wear near daily. The ones I only wear every other week probably get washed 3 times a year
Yakkeks
Yakkeks5mo ago
Some fucked up denim I got for cheap.
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menace
menace5mo ago
just remembered the jacket i thrifted in japan, super crinkly but there are pics on google
menace
menace5mo ago
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menace
menace5mo ago
it fitted my outfit that i was wearing to the thrift store and was only 4000 yen so just had to get it just googled it myself and omg i m so glad i found it at a thrift store for 4k yen
menace
menace5mo ago
bc jesus fuckin christ
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menace
menace5mo ago
and mine was in such good condition the label is still good
Yakkeks
Yakkeks5mo ago
Low key hate that im becoming a denim person, but they are so damn practical when cycling lol
Legs
Legs5mo ago
I love cycling in denim when I'm commuting
Yakkeks
Yakkeks3mo ago
Yo denim nerds, what is greencast indigo? (the denim nerd is meant endearingly ofc)
s0up
s0up3mo ago
I don't actually know the meaning behind the name but it's indigo that a green hue to it. Oni Secret denim is the example that comes to mind
s0up
s0up3mo ago
secret denim is on the right in this picture
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Yakkeks
Yakkeks3mo ago
aw thats a nice colour
Legs
Legs3mo ago
Nick Coe
Heddels
Greencast
What does Greencast mean? A denim dye process in which the garment is dyed with green sulfur and then indigo to...
Legs
Legs3mo ago
I've never fully understood the appeal but I'm realizing now it might be because of my colorblindness
Yakkeks
Yakkeks3mo ago
I mean its a great way to create another set of slightly different denim to sell to ppl
ler
ler3mo ago
OK so I know some brands use 'dry' for raw/selvedge denim but i've only ever seen Edwin use 'wet' denim and... what's that mean?
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s0up
s0up3mo ago
Edwin North America
Men's Jeans
Men's Premium Denim, Made In Japan
s0up
s0up3mo ago
But I notice now that not all of the listings actually explain what wet is
s0up
s0up3mo ago
Edwin North America
Akita Taper Wet Men's Premium Selvage
Experience the unmatched quality of our exclusive 13.5oz Japanese rainbow selvage denim. This fabric delivers superior strength and a unique, vibrant character. Slow-woven, replicating the meticulous techniques of post-war era jean-making, these jeans offer a timeless aesthetic and enduring construction. Edwin’s signat
s0up
s0up3mo ago
This one "explains" what they mean but I'm still not sure I fully understand. Because they still say to size up if you want to wash them :thinkbutt:
Legs
Legs3mo ago
Hmm sounds like they rinse it to remove some excess indigo but not enough to make it shrink? Might be a translation issue
yung_flynn
yung_flynn3mo ago
Maybe it’s just a cold soak to remove excess indigo but not fully shrink the denim There are not enough stock photos to be sure but the yoke seam does look puckered though which suggests that they have shrunk from raw
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I like jeans
alex
alex3mo ago
i love double denim pieces
segmund
segmund2mo ago
Is there a good explainer on jeans rise fits? My basic understanding is that it's measure from crotch to top. But not sure exactly of when you'd want high vs medium vs low (guessing something about torso vs leg proportions).
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
It doesn’t have to do with your body as much as your style direction And whatever’s comfortable
Legs
Legs2mo ago
If you want jeans to sit above/at/below your natural waist, then you'll want a rise that allows that. But otherwise it's all down to style like said above.
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE2mo ago
I wonder if these’d be good for summer. I’m not a tall person (5’8 or so) and I wonder if these could be a good length without needing to cuff my jeans https://www.universalstore.com/collections/thrills/products/thrills-chopped-denim-jean-ash-blue?_pos=6&_fid=84c275ec1&_ss=c
Universal Store
Thrills Chopped Denim Jean Ash Blue
Welcome to Universal Store, your one-stop-shop for women's and men's fashion. Shop the latest drops from all your favourite brands, including Perfect Stranger, Thrills, Lioness, Common Need and more. Find a new statement piece, crucial jacket or a pair of quintessential street sneakers.
Yakkeks
Yakkeks2mo ago
If I want cropped denim without a cuff I would propably either just raw hem a pair of regular jeans or have them altered at the tailor at my desired length. Was 8€ the last time I had it done.
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE2mo ago
Never tried raw hem before Maybe if I bought a pair of jeans from a vintage store I would feel more comfortable doing so? But I prefer the clean look of that crop
Legs
Legs2mo ago
I would just tailor a style you already like. If you like this pair then go for it
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE2mo ago
I think I can order them online and can easily return them in-store which means I can try them at home than hope they’re in-stock
wetlandman
wetlandman2mo ago
Anybody have any experience with this company and can speak to the quality of the denim? https://www.weargustin.com/howitworks?utm_source=RMRS&utm_medium=influencer&utm_campaign=Sep2024_introduction
Gustin
How Gustin Works | Crowdsourced American-Made Menswear
Discover how Gustin's unique crowdsourcing business model brings you premium-quality, American-made denim, shirts, jackets and more at affordable prices.
wetlandman
wetlandman2mo ago
The concept is appealing seems like it could be good
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gustin bad
wetlandman
wetlandman2mo ago
Why’s that what’s been your experience? Reading online it seems it can be hit or miss with the sizing but the quality is good I have some jeans but I’d like to maybe get one more that’s a nice pair I can dress up, dark or maybe black And or get a new pair that can be my work jeans
kstocks
kstocks2mo ago
Imagine waiting 3+ months for a pair of jeans that fit entirely differently than how they said they would and you can't return them. Oh and the quality isn't actually that great.
wetlandman
wetlandman2mo ago
Aight if the quality isn’t there then I’m out. They have non crowdsourced ones but if it’s over a $100 and still iffy meh There’s a naked and famous store I can go to and try in person but it’s over $200. I’ve read good reviews though
kstocks
kstocks2mo ago
That's because they advertise the brand like it's a really great deal but its not worth the hassle. Many users on this server have experience with Gustin and I don't know anyone who recommends them.
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I just think the fits are terrible, the quality is bad, the customer service is awful, the wait time is outrageous, their advertising model is pompous. They make it seem like you are getting a great deal on "quality" by cutting out the middleman, but actually their quality sucks and the middle-man actually made our experience better as a customer. basically I think their brand is a gimmick at the consumers expense but to give you some perspective I also think n&f is bad for many of the same reasons if you are confident in your measurements there are lots of great deals on almost new raw denim jeans on grailed, etc.
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae2mo ago
honestly if you’re really cheap just get Bronson MFG. the cut is fine and the quality is good for the price Sugar Cane 1947 or TCB would be a better option imo, but if it has to be sub $100 and new just get the Bronson
wetlandman
wetlandman2mo ago
Im not opposed to spending more I’m just weary of diminishing returns
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
I know it feels like it is sometimes, but clothing isn’t an optimization game
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae2mo ago
Yeah absolutely this
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
Get stuff because you like it first
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae2mo ago
Totally but idk that anyone is going to have a good time with Gustin recommending against them seems fine imo
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
Yeah well it has to exist for you to know you like it Where are the jeans gustin
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae2mo ago
I remember waiting like 18 months or so once for a jean that arrived and it was not even remotely my size or the cut I’d ordered I’d forgotten I even ordered them And they arrived and I was like “damn I don’t think I ordered a toddler sized jean”
wetlandman
wetlandman2mo ago
Bronson looks good but not my size :/ I dare to have an odd numbered waist size
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae2mo ago
Buy a size up? You can wear a belt and also jeans will shrink with a hot wash Also never go off “waist size” with pants, always go off the measurements
wetlandman
wetlandman2mo ago
Yeah I wear a belt anyways but I don’t want it to be too loose. Hot wash is a good point tho
Legs
Legs2mo ago
Red Tornado is another cheap Chinese repro option to consider alongside Bronson
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
How much is Evisu or TCB
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae2mo ago
Evisus are like $200+ new now TCB is usually like $100-$200
wetlandman
wetlandman2mo ago
Are all these brands online only or are any available in stores to try out?
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
The Japanese ones are gonna be hard to find
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If you plan to wash your jeans like a regular individual, be warned that I have never had denim that hasn’t shrunk more than the sellers claim it will, regardless of sanforization or one wash or anything. I recommend airing on the larger size
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
Depends where you are
wetlandman
wetlandman2mo ago
NYC so I figure there’s a chance
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
Oh yeah Go to blue in green
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae2mo ago
Oh yeah you got options lol
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
Try on everything
wetlandman
wetlandman2mo ago
Is this in regards to Raw denim specifically? My denim up to this point has all been Levi’s or similar mall stuff
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
You can check out self edge and standard and strange too but blue in green will have the most options
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae2mo ago
I’d suggest Standard & Strange over Self Edge if you’ve never had raws before from a customer experience Blue in Green selection is lit though
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
TCBs are all like historical cuts so those are a little different But I’m pretty sure BiG has them now
Legs
Legs2mo ago
Primarily raw denim and then raw-adjacent (sanforized and one wash). Heavily washed denim, stone washed, 2 year wash, etc aren't gonna shrink much unless you hot wash
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I’ve noticed it most with raw
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae2mo ago
I might suggest checking out Left Field and 3Sixteen in NYC as well
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
Left field has some really unique stuff
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I quite like the 3sixteen Classic Straight cut and I’ve seen some decent deals on Grailed
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae2mo ago
personally, I wish they had more wide cuts on their pants, but they have really cool stuff
wetlandman
wetlandman2mo ago
Marking all these down in my maps app lol
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
I really want a pair of their women’s repro factory pants
wetlandman
wetlandman2mo ago
Thank you all 🙏
s stands for nothing
Ya getting your hands on the product will be great, maybe you find you don’t even like them enough to justify the price. Tbh my favorite pair of jeans ever was from h&m back in the day
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
Nah they used to have ones that zipped up where your left pocket would normally be I can’t find them now so probably don’t exist anymore
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae2mo ago
They do a lot of one-offs
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
These are true vintage ones so maybe I’ll just save up for those
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bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
Tragic that these are children’s
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jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae2mo ago
those kinda look like the Scott Fraser denim trousers I want
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bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan2mo ago
Yeah that’s probably the same era men’s equivalent style
max
max2mo ago
My go to cheap pair are wranglers. I don’t hate Levi’s STF either I really like the new manresa jeans a lot as well
Yakkeks
Yakkeks2mo ago
I got the sfc ones. They are a really nice cut and currently propably my favourite pair of denim. I love how high the rise is and the cut is great. I propably ordered a size to big, which is workable but means some fabric bunching and some baggy ass fabric. If they restock them in W36 i might have to cop again to get my proper size lol. I will say though that the quality control on these was not great. Plenty of loose threads on the belt loops and i had to resew the fly buttons bc they all fell off. I propably should have returned them back then for a size smaller, but shit happens. Also they drape incredibly well
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae2mo ago
Ooo that’s good to know but also with the buttons that’s rough
Yakkeks
Yakkeks2mo ago
It was annoying but really nbd Took me like 10 min to resew by hand
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae2mo ago
I have not and never wish to sew on a button
Yakkeks
Yakkeks2mo ago
Everyone has to draw a line somewhere i guess 😄 Anyway. Apart from that issue really great jeans. I think the cut & drape make up for it. Also think they would look pretty cool on you!
The Good Morning Man
Somehow after three previous pairs, I forgot that century denim is raw. I guess every other time I did a pre soak. So much crocking on my boots from one wear Patina I guess
ler
ler5w ago
kind of like these new kotn jeans (tho idk about those fat belt loops). been interested in the idea of patch pocket denim as my sugar canes get more and more beat
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Yakkeks
Yakkeks5w ago
Sfc patch pockets the goat imo
s0up
s0up5w ago
I got some jeans with slash pockets recently and I really enjoy them
ler
ler5w ago
i also really like the braindead type 00s except they're like $500 CAD the fit looks really cool. don't love the front pocket designs tho
Yakkeks
Yakkeks5w ago
slash pockets are so nice for putting your hands in
ezluckyfree
ezluckyfree4w ago
Anyone know of something like the Oni-222 (super wide) but in a faded black? I know Oni does a similar super wide cut in jet black.
Yakkeks
Yakkeks4w ago
Nudies Tuff Tony comes in a vintage faded black that might fit the bill
jawntanamo_bae
Indigofera Kirk in Gunpowder washed version Orslow Dad Fit in black stonewash
s0up
s0up4w ago
@jawntanamo_bae 🥀 just gonna refer to you as the denim mentat from now on
jawntanamo_bae
Unfortunately for my bank account, I deserve this @ezluckyfree I don’t remember the name of the wash, but Tender Co has a variety of wide-leg fits and a specific faded black wash. However they’re closed till mid-October so cannot look at their site rn
ezluckyfree
ezluckyfree4w ago
Amazing, thanks yall
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE4w ago
Got some early 00’s Levi’s for $45🇦🇺/$30🇺🇸. I’ll take a photo once I get home I might crop them as they’re long and they’re not Selvage, otherwise I’d cuff them
Echo-Ecco.ExE
Echo-Ecco.ExE4w ago
My new (old) jeans, with a Weezer-style edit
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ler
ler4w ago
?????
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The Good Morning Man
That’s a fun gimmick I want the whiskey wash
Legs
Legs4w ago
Reject kakishibu-dyed, embrace coors-dyed
Spuck
Spuck4w ago
Honestly better than the acne ones that look like someone shit on them
warpweftwatergate
Hell yeah
s stands for nothing
brother I beer wash my jeans for free regularly (minus cost of beer), be safe out there dont get ripped off
eggtart!
eggtart!2w ago
I have a love hate relationship with denim I have a pair of thrifted jeans but honestly I just don't find them comfortable relative to my other pants But since I'm in NYC I should just hit up the million denim classics here
1BP
1BP2w ago
Phew this is a lot to read
1BP
1BP2w ago
How are these?
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Duck
Duck2w ago
Don't have those specific pants, but I am a very satisfied Red Tornado jeans customer. It's a superb product. Only downsides are dealing with aliexpress shipping and the lingering moral doubts about how exactly a chinese brand achieves this absurd level of price-to-value.
Crash
Crash2w ago
This has likely been asked 300x and please redirect me: favorite pair of non-selvedge denim in the US under $250 I just don’t wear them enough for selvedge to make sense in the next 4+ years Maybe a thread here would help?
s0up
s0up2w ago
You'll probably get better responses if you make a q&a post with a description of exactly (or near to exactly) what you're looking for $250 is a pretty high budget for non selvedge
Sam
Sam2w ago
:linkWave: 🤔 I've heard about double denim before. Is it a decent or poor styling choice? Personally I don't mind it.
Spuck
Spuck2w ago
It looks good, unless you're swagless
The Good Morning Man
super dependent on the fit and what's in style at the time right now double denim is a good bet as long as your don't brick the fit
Legs
Legs2w ago
I love double (or triple) denim, but vary shades between each piece
s0up
s0up2w ago
Varying shades works but matched shades can also look very cool If it looks good it is good
Legs
Legs2w ago
Yeah same shades can look cool if intentional and done right, just usually not what I'm going for
max
max2w ago
What Soup said - you’re probably will end up with selvedge at that price point just cause At $250 you could look at sugar cane 1947s or orslow 105s maybe. I owned both and liked them, but I only had the washed 105s Black Friday is coming up too and you might be able to get a decent deal on LVC stuff
yung_flynn
yung_flynn2w ago
You could just get a factory washed (aged) selvedge at that price point if you want a pre-lightened denim. Orslow 105 2-year wash, Full count 0105 Dartford Wash, the stone washed version of Sugar Cane 1947 (forget what it’s called), and the Warehouse 2nd hand series in the 1001xx and 1105 models all come to mind I really like naturally worn true denim tuxes (same jeans and jacket). Initially they will be the same tone but will diverge with wear as jeans fade much faster
max
max2w ago
The stone washed 1947 has been out of production for a year or so i think? But those others are good options used Full count and warehouse are closer to $400 I thought
s0up
s0up2w ago
Only if you buy from US based suppliers. Very easy to order direct from Japan now
max
max2w ago
True - I assume you just mean via from Japan or a similar proxy
RB
RB2w ago
check denimio, they often have much lower prices than US suppliers
s0up
s0up2w ago
Denimio, Okayama Denim, Bears Tokyo there are more, those are just the ones I remember now
max
max2w ago
Damn I wasn’t aware of this - now I’m learning lol I always just bought my denim from a local place and never really explored other options
s0up
s0up2w ago
buying local is cool if you can afford it and it lets you try stuff you're interested in without having to rely on size charts
max
max2w ago
Oh for sure - I’d just rather save where I can and support my local place by buying stuff that I can’t really get for cheaper elsewhere outside of used.
yung_flynn
yung_flynn2w ago
Celluloid 1984 is another place to get WH and Full Count for cheaper without needing to proxy. Celluloid is maybe the cheapest place to get Full Count now. Takeoff sells a lot of Warehouse stuff and doesn’t require a proxy either I’ll add that some of those Japanese sites can be harder to navigate than others (Bears, Hinoya, Denimio are the most user friendly) but that’s part of the perverse appeal to me. It’s like a Time Machine to an older internet
1BP
1BP2w ago
I was just asking something similar
ler
ler6d ago
i think i might spend-up and get a pair of henry's next time he does a drop with some indigos
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Yakkeks
Yakkeks6d ago
I found out that Indigofera has a pretty blatant wrangler cowboy-cut ripoff (called wyatt) They even do the small leather patch on the back pocket lol Also they now have a Kālī themed wool blanket, I feel targeted lol
Legs
Legs6d ago
I'm really tempted to get a wyatt but based on the size charts they won't work for my thighs
s0up
s0up6d ago
I've got a few things from Indigofera, big fan of their stuff
Legs
Legs6d ago
All I have so far is a blanket from them (which I absolutely love)
Yakkeks
Yakkeks6d ago
Yeah, thighs are a bottleneck I really like their non blue/black denim options
Legs
Legs6d ago
Another quarter inch of thigh width and I'd jump on these in a heartbeat: https://standardandstrange.com/products/wyatt-bootcut-khaki-dusk-denim
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Indigofera Wyatt Bootcut - Khaki Dusk Denim
The Wyatt is an extremely handsome old school Western bootcut jean, with relaxed straight legs, a comfortable high rise, and a casual flat front. It's a little more vintage-inspired than Indigofera's Hawk bootcut fit, a touch roomier and more emphasized all-around, but not so much as to make the silhouette too wide or
Yakkeks
Yakkeks6d ago
Second Sunrise
Indigofera Wyatt Jeans Low Desert Denim
This is a reintroduction of a bootcut model by Indigofera. Wyatt is the predecessor of Hawk and the new version is with a higher waist, triple stitch decoration and a new leather patch on the rear pocket. This version of Wyatt is made out of a 13,5 oz wide loom right hand twill denim that is unwashed. Soft to the feel
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SteezeTrain
SteezeTrain6d ago
yeaaah this cut good Like my ideal every day jean
Yakkeks
Yakkeks6d ago
Yeah. Unfortunately I really can't justify buying even more denim pants. But if that wasn't a concern the stampede broken twill, the gunpowder and the low desert ones would be really hot contenders. Silly thing about the Wyatt is that Indigofera doesnt tell you about that cut on their own website lol. Only lists the stinky Hawk for bootcut jeans :mryuk:
SteezeTrain
SteezeTrain6d ago
more brands just need to do wrangler rips imo lmao Screw a 501 501 boys have eaten well enough Been on the hunt for some black jeans...
SteezeTrain
SteezeTrain6d ago
Standard & Strange
Indigofera Wyatt Bootcut - 14oz Gunpowder Black Selvedge
The Wyatt is an extremely handsome old school Western bootcut jean, with relaxed straight legs, a comfortable high rise, and a casual flat front. It's a little more vintage-inspired than Indigofera's Hawk bootcut fit, a touch roomier and more emphasized all-around, but not so much as to make the silhouette too wide or
SteezeTrain
SteezeTrain6d ago
Maybe my next big cop see how long I can wait before sale season lmao
Legs
Legs6d ago
That's a really nice one too I was browsing those earlier today too. Very tempting but I think I'd overlap too much with my 634s-sbg
yung_flynn
yung_flynn6d ago
The pocket flasher on this model was pretty egregious, actually spelling out Levi's
Yakkeks
Yakkeks6d ago
Absolutely. Cowboy cut is goated.
yung_flynn
yung_flynn6d ago
The ultimate irony is that Full Count had their own copyright infringement saga with TCB a few years ago as the arcs on the small run of 20's jeans for their contest were deemed too close to Full Count's, leading to all pairs being confiscated and then destroyed. Full Count then proceeded to remove their own infringed upon arcs about one year later only to bring back a blatant copy of Levi's for the referenced 30th anniversary model Mister Freedom has recently had their own legal scuffle with Wrangler over the placement of their leather back pocket patch that their founder Christophe has been airing out on Instagram
s0up
s0up6d ago
I've got a jacket in gunpowder, it's really cool how higher wear areas fade to white
Yakkeks
Yakkeks6d ago
Oh, ill have to look out for that in your fitpics!
s0up
s0up6d ago
I don't think any of the fading is noticeable at a distance but I'll try and remember to get some close up shots and share them in this channel tomorrow
yung_flynn
yung_flynn6d ago
These look like a nice option for a black denim tux https://www.instagram.com/p/DBl_J4hydFn/?
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LateS40’s BKBK 発表のお知らせ 今年も冬季限定のチョコレートのCMを見かける季節となりました。 そうなるとTCBでも作りたくなるのがBKBKシリーズ。 今年は先日発表させて頂いたLateS40’sをベースに作らせて頂く事にしました。 もちろんパンツのポケットはフランネル仕様。Black×Pinkという配色が『その為に用意したの?』という位、相性が良いと思いました。 黒の染色方法はインディゴ同様にロープ染色で染めていますので糸が中白状態にあり、経年変化を楽しめる仕様になっています。 まだインディゴをお届け前での発表で恐縮ですが是非ご検討ください。 We had short autumn and started to feel the hints of winter co...
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s0up
s0up6d ago
I'm a big fan of TCB, they have an 1890s blouse out just now that has well and truly wormed it's way into my brain
s0up
s0up6d ago
TCB JEANS
No.2 Blouse 1890
This jacket has wide shoulder and wide armholes so you'll get shoulder dropped silhouette when you wear it. If you have TCB 50's Jacket or S40's Jacket, we recommend the same size. If you don't have any other TCB jacket, we recommend you measure the shoulder width and sleeve length of your favorite jacket and choose a
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s0up
s0up6d ago
Something about that low front pocket that's super cool to me (of course I end up liking this one way more than the type 1 that's half the price)
yung_flynn
yung_flynn6d ago
I have this one and the matching jeans. I wear the jacket all the time and have posted it a few times in WAYWT. The low and huge front pocket is great.
s0up
s0up6d ago
This isn't helping me right now :xd: Will go and look up your pics with it though
yung_flynn
yung_flynn6d ago
The details and fit on those particular jeans are certainly not for everyone but I really like them. They’re more like trousers in the seat than jeans.
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yung_flynn6d ago
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yung_flynn
yung_flynn6d ago
I have a Denime Type 2 that I post sometimes too and it’s not always obvious without looking very closely. Full tux pics and spare jacket pics above of the 1890s
CrispySmokyFrazzles
ohhhh i should not have looked at those TCB jackets...
Sam
Sam4d ago
Did you buy any?
s stands for nothing
Tcb jackets are sick but mine is cursed with tiny arm holes . Like super snug and I’m not even muscular
yung_flynn
yung_flynn4d ago
The 1890s are a little better. The shoulder construction is different. It’s almost like a dropped shoulder and half raglan. That’s a thick 4-ply submariner from Bosie that I fit through the arm holes relatively easily above. Body length is still longer though
CrispySmokyFrazzles
hah, not yet ! i do like that S40s jacket though
Crash
Crash2d ago
Feel like I may have asked this earlier, but as a human who wears denim 30-50 times per year what are some recommended brands probably under $200? Would prefer a darker color but don’t think it is worth getting selvedge to wear in over 4+ years. Also some worries about crocking, Used to buy Lucky brand. Not looking for special/unique wear patterns but also don’t need preformed wear patterns.
Legs
Legs2d ago
Nothing about raw/selvedge requires several years of break it. There are a ton of options at that price point. Any preference in terms of cut?
Crash
Crash2d ago
Straight leg Thanks, everything I have read is that there was a lot of bleed/crocking and it was uncomfortable to wear for 80+ wears I don’t care about incredibly unique wear patterns but I do like comfortable, good looking clothes and am willing to pay a premium for them if needed Tall, lean, but mostly torso. Basically a 32/33 inseam is great. Not bodybuilder thighs
Clark'sDesertBot
in the future, please search for previous or open a new thread in #questions-and-advice so others might benefit from the answers - thanks!
bishopcorrigan
80 wears to get comfortable is really crazy tbh, if you got something super heavyweight and sized down too much maybe
Crash
Crash2d ago
Good to know. Last I read was it took at least that long to wear in And when I asked above in this channel at the under $300 price point the rec was selvedge If there is a minimal crocking/bleed period and under 40-60 wear to be comfortable I’d be happy
s stands for nothing
under $200 is like a wild range of options, especially if you look at used via grailed or ebay (which you should imo) literally anything lmao
Crash
Crash2d ago
That’s a discord issue. Can you subthread a thread? Or pin a quick post of suggestions at certain price points? As well as sizing between different brands. Maybe denim is more accurate and doesn’t use glamour sizing, or has structurally similar thigh/calf/ankle measurements for certain cuts Across brands
Crash
Crash2d ago
100%. Then how do you optimize help here. Are there certain brands that are more accurate? Or off on certain measurements? It’s the right baseline, and I’m likely shouting into a void, but there are ways to redirect a denim channel better
s stands for nothing
I do not understand your question. If you want specific advice start a personal thread in questions and answers section that’s what the mod is saying But no it’s not like certain brands are more or less accurate (although some have wildly off quality control issues from time to time) just find the measurements you want and it helps narrow down the search And keep in mind that all denim shrinks more than sellers say it will, with normal washing so air on the larger size when applicable
Crash
Crash2d ago
My fault, I was having a broader discussion about denim that I thought didn’t need a specific thread. Sounds like it probably did. I thought I was talking more generally about denim than any specific needs I have but that either was inaccurate or wasn’t coming through
s stands for nothing
Idk I’m not a mod I don’t care I still don’t know what your question is
Crash
Crash2d ago
My questions were basic FAQ ones: - How long does it take for selvedge to be comfortable (some say 80+, others say much less) - Rec for brands at certain price points - Sizing/shrinking between brands These can all be kept somewhere, or in people’s heads, or never expressed. It all seems like localized knowledge in people’s heads that a chat like Discord can’t pin/prioritize.
s stands for nothing
This sounds like a dissertation topic - EVERY BRAND?!v!
Crash
Crash2d ago
These are questions people redirect to this channel, which then gets redirected to a personal separate thread when it is beneficial for others to just see/check. Old message boards like reddit had their most value their, Discord struggles with it even through threads or pinned messages
s stands for nothing
If you want to put in the grunt work on this I’m sure it would be appreciated thanks for offering
Crash
Crash2d ago
I have owned zero pairs of denim in the past decade. The idea behind these communities are for people super into specifics to provide their opinions on things they are really into But wish you well, this convo isn’t giving either of us value
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fwiw going back to your original question I'd suggest just hitting up some vintage stores and trying jeans on until you like something If you don't know what you want that's going to be the best bet
s stands for nothing
Bro what are you saying if you think it’s valuable to ahaead and contribute it sound like your mad other people are t following your half baked vision which would take a ton of work Sorry for the tone but that’s reflective of what I just read
SteezeTrain
SteezeTrain2d ago
We aren't jean google
Crash
Crash2d ago
Totally fair and I am in no way mad. I came here from occasionally searching the reddit channel years ago and saw a coverage gap. While also seeing other channels where people provide the same advice on almost a weekly basis. Seemed like there is probably an easier way to do things/focus on different things but I don’t have the background to start with that, especially in this particular space.
bishopcorrigan
The “what jeans do I buy” questions may seem to be all the same on the face of it but the reality is that all of these things are in flux and dependent on a lot of different things. Could a bunch of information be collated and put into a spreadsheet? Sure, but it would either be too restrictive and end up recommending the same 3 pairs of jeans to everyone, or it would be overwhelmingly expansive and end up being useless to those without the prior knowledge anyway Besides all that, the main reason we don’t have stuff translated into data and put in a giant list of infographics is because we’d rather do the shared labor of just talking to the people who need things and helping them figure out what they want The reason this thread exists is more just for denim nerds to chat about stuff they’re into or show off some jeans or whatever
1BP
1BP2d ago
Not that it should be answered but I asked a specific question about jeans a while back and one of the main answers was to come here and discuss my question. So that does tend to create a loop, regardless of this specific thing he asked.
s0up
s0up2d ago
I think the problem can be, as bishop said there are soooooo many jeans available now. Many brands (particularly in the japanese denim works) are doing very similar things, a slightly different version of a repro of a specific jean from 1943 say. It's nearly impossible to recommend anything specific there, it's really all personal preference or which specific brand you happened to buy and liked.
Legs
Legs2d ago
Most the "raw denim is uncomfortable" beliefs come from people who buy skinny jeans that don't properly fit their waist or thighs. If it fits right, your denim should break in enough to be comfortable within the first week and only get better from there.
The Good Morning Man
size down 2 as penance for your sins
zacheadams
zacheadams2d ago
I am gonna approach this from a different angle: what city or area are you in? (ur typin a lot I promise this is not a bait question)
Crash
Crash2d ago
Chicago, but the discussion here has helped me figure out where to best direct my questions here and highlight that I’m not really ready to buy a pair yet
zacheadams
zacheadams2d ago
I'd hit up Independence, Mildblend, Dearborn Denim, and The Denim Lounge, look and/or try on some stuff, and then come back with a list of brands/models of jean you liked and what you liked about them! You'll also get a chance to figure out your general sizing and fit preference (slim/straight/taper/wide/etc) Even if stuff is out of your budget, you might be able to either save and reconsider, or buy used online in the same vein or even, if lucky, the same model.
s0up
s0up2d ago
The above advice is great, particularly in that with some brands and models as a reference people here will likely have experience with the same pair/brand or know good alternatives to those in your budget
ler
ler2d ago
to answer the question about selvedge break in, some pairs will be like, immediately comfortable, some pairs will take a few wears, but like bishop said unless you're sizing down 2 in some gimmick 24oz pair they will not take 80. it really depends on the type of denim, whether they're one wash, how much they weigh, etc. i previously did suggest someone come here from Q&A so that's my bad but i think m yintention there was this is a resource you can scroll through and mayhave better luck finding answers in because not everyone goes to Q&A Crash I will say that it seems like some of your perceptions of raw/selvedge are kind of out of date, it's for sure true that in like 2010-2018 or whatever the vibe really was buy a super uncomfortable pair, sleep in them, let them stretch to comfort and let them smell like ass but i think the consensus has really changed over the years now that fits have relaxed and people are less obsessed with super high contrast honeycombs. But I'll echo what @discord solipsist z said and if you're most concerned with how they look and feel, your best bet is gonna be hitting up those shops and trying them on.
Crash
Crash2d ago
Thanks, this is all the type of advice I was initially hoping for
ler
ler2d ago
The fun thing about denim for a lot of us is you can go deep with it, different repro cuts, unique fabrics, unique wear, etc, but ultimately it's often as simple as just putting something on. Let us know your impressions once you get to try stuff on! Knowing what you like (or even sharing pics/inspo) can also be really helpful for us giving recommendations
zacheadams
zacheadams2d ago
I am still obsessed with super high contrast honeycomb in black denim and there is nothing for me 😭
ler
ler2d ago
ive always wanted a black pair that'll fade nice and ive never pulled the trigger.
s0up
s0up2d ago
Alot of stuff I've seen lately is black warp and weft so it fades less Which is annoying for both of you
zacheadams
zacheadams2d ago
Hoping these iron hearts I got in winter will get me there, just rotated them into being my daily this week Yeah I think I got black / black which is probably not ideal for what I want, but I just liked the color so much
ler
ler2d ago
i debated the 3sixteens in the new RS fit in black but ive never been sold on their denim so i waffled a bit. think i just need to spend an afternoon digging on ebay/grailed for a black pair and start there was also looking at some 1947 in black or tcb in black if i can find them, the pair up top was intriguing
s0up
s0up2d ago
The new sugar cane black denim looks cool
ler
ler2d ago
oh i didnt even realize there was new, i just found some used pairs. new 1947s? only thing is i have them in the indigo and might want a different cut honestly the brain dead 00s look really sick, just need to justify spending like $400 on brain dead denim
s0up
s0up2d ago
Second Sunrise
Sugar Cane & Co. 460 (1947) Model 14,25oz One Wash Black Denim SC42460
The 1947 fit made by Sugar Cane is perhaps one of the most accurate reproductions of a pair of Levi's 501's as they looked in the middle of the 20th century. Like many other brands, Sugar Cane started making their reproductions back in the late 1980's. A time when the vintage original jeans were becoming hard to find a
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s0up
s0up2d ago
I think those were the pair I saw. I had seen it on a denim jacket first
s stands for nothing
im not sure if that black x white would be different but I was actually not so into how their 13oz black x black denim faded
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s stands for nothing
excuse the slim fit
Sam
Sam2d ago
not the slim fit :why_dissolve:
Legs
Legs2d ago
I love the way my IH-634S-SBGs are fading although they're definitely not "high contrast". Highly recommend them if the cut works for you
zacheadams
zacheadams2d ago
looking at the Iron Heart forum for mine oml I cannot believe people care calling each other "neph" on there like it's the fucking Alden thread on StyleForum
zacheadams
zacheadams2d ago
2 wash 200 wears
zacheadams
zacheadams2d ago
and like 6-9 months later
s0up
s0up2d ago
very cool, I need to wear all of my jeans more
bishopcorrigan
Same I’ve let so many pairs languish while I just wear centuries every day My BDDW furniture maker jeans are crying
Yakkeks
Yakkeks2d ago
Same, and at the same time there are like 3 pairs of denim I would theoretically like to get, further reducing the amount of wear each pair gets :xdcrying:
s0up
s0up2d ago
so many cool jeans/pants and only one pair of legs :sadyeehawdab:
SteezeTrain
SteezeTrain2d ago
Fwiw centuries are amazing I've been wearing my century and wrangler blue bells in endless rotation for like 2 months
Spuck
Spuck2d ago
Ive been lucky that my Edwins fit so exactly right that I'm not even thinking about other jeans
ezluckyfree
ezluckyfree2d ago
tender's website is back and im fixated on their denim
ler
ler2d ago
it's so crunchy looking (complimentary)
ezluckyfree
ezluckyfree2d ago
just waiting on their restock of their size 5's
s stands for nothing
Here I am thinking I’m letting my centuries go unworn because I like the fit of my other jeans more Cruel world
Sam
Sam2d ago
Once my cop-drop is over I'd be wanting to aim for this western light-blue denim look :linkCool:
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The Good Morning Man
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Sam
Sam2d ago
:linkThink: as well as correct sized jeans :linkSweatSmile:
Yakkeks
Yakkeks2d ago
Zeo has a solution for that lol
anasthesia-
anasthesia-23h ago
are your edwins made in usa or made in japan? i sorta regret not heading to the store in jp to try them but i didn't realize their usa line was made in usa now i scoured thrift stores and couldn't find any that fit among the deluge of levis/wranglers lmao
Spuck
Spuck17h ago
I think in Japan, will have to check
Garet
Garet8h ago
I’m such a mega fan of iron heart fabrics but have the same issue with the forum lol almost everyone participating there is still on the slim or tapered wave Which nothing wrong with that it’s more just that anybody wanting a wide fit is left out to dry Such a shame since the 21oz is imo the best in the game for heavyweight fabric
zacheadams
zacheadams8h ago
but there are so many IH cuts that are wider I mean not as wide as some of these wheat sack overalls wide cuts from other heritage type brands but I feel like I've compromised with not getting some skinnies here, this looked like the smallest it got
Garet
Garet8h ago
Haha I need the wheat sack overalls wide!! Your pair fits you great I think they look awesome I have some 1955 cut with the widest thighs they could find but it’s still pretty uncomfy compared to my other fits since I’ve been radicalized
zacheadams
zacheadams8h ago
I think ur condemned to the other repro/heritage brands :xd: "condemned"
zacheadams
zacheadams8h ago
sorry time for fainting into ur Stephen Kenn x 3sixteen denim boro lounge chair
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Garet
Garet8h ago
I would love to brood in that chair Just a good place to ponder
ezluckyfree
ezluckyfree8h ago
same tbh, I wish more high-end denim brands had super wide cuts
Garet
Garet8h ago
The Evan kinori x orslow pair looked awesome seems to be out of stock though now
kyn
kyn7h ago
oh my god
Spuck
Spuck6h ago
nice jair
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