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Naked & Famous and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the perception of raw denim for those of us who live on the internet, but their proliferation of odd cuts and materials have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering (in the Real World to physical suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world. The continued development of jeans technology will worsen the situation. It will certainly subject human beings to greater indignities and inflict greater damage on the natural world, it will probably lead to greater social disruption and psychological suffering, and it may lead to increased physical suffering even on the internet.
This reads like a Parli debate Kritik
@thegoodmorningman has some killer kapital denim he’s been showing around recently
I love my Iron Hearts
Personally, I’m pro-denim. I think it is good.
I can get behind this
Posted in #Kapital
Someone in an outfit feedback thread said dark slim cuffed raw denim can look dated. Agree or disagree?
yeah it definitely can, slim fit raws that never saw a tailor or harder work than sitting at a desk were the halmark of an era
If you're not changing tires in your raw denim, you're not doing it right.
Those didn’t send last night
Agree
I think a tapered cut in general looks pretty dated
Personal example
Agree, sadly my Rogue Territory’s have been sitting in the closet for awhile now in favor of my LVC 1947 501s. Straight cut is so much better for me
Do y'all hem your denim and if so do y'all go to your tailor/dry cleaners or put the effort in to get it chain stitched? I just bought some Drake's denim in the archive same with an extra 5" in the inseam that I'll need to figure out what to do with
My last two pairs I got hemmed by the store I bought them from. I’ve had denim hemmed before by my tailor without a problem. I don’t personally care if they get a chain stitch.
I’ve either sent main to railcar or had it hemmed by the seller
If the store doesn’t offer chain stitch in house I’ll take it to Self Edge since there’s one near me. That said, mailing to Railcar is a good option too if you don’t have a place nearby that does it
Thanks - good to know about railcar!
Weird post, guy
Idk, it seems like Karl really hasn’t adapted his fits beyond the mid 2010s slim phase. On one hand, I appreciate RGT for sticking to its aesthetic, because there are enough brands with different fits. On the other hand, it feels like they’re leaving money on the table. Can you imagine how well wider leg RGT fits would sell?
I take it you didn’t get the reference lol
I only just got the reference lmao
still knew it was shitposting though
Lol I was making a reference too. “Weird Guy”? I knew it was shitposting but I don’t know the source.
Lmao reading that at 6am this morning my brain was not there
Hi, I purchased the '54 501s (Levi's Premium, not LVC) and they came with small intentional tears that I didn't notice on the online photo. Are there ways to repair or patch intentional tears? Thank you for any help!
By the way, aside from the tears and my newbie difficulty in buttoning them, they seem like a great pair of jeans to get on sale (I paid $70). I got them in the Bright Light pattern: https://www.levi.com/US/en_US/clothing/men/jeans/straight/501-54-original-fit-mens-jeans/p/A46770006
501® '54 Original Fit Men's Jeans - Light Wash | Levi's® US
Close your eyes. Think “jeans.” now open. They were 501 originals®, right? With a classic straight leg and iconic styling, they’re literally the blueprint for every ...
Just return them lol
Spend like 40-50 more and get a Japanese reproduction that’s better than Levi’s in every way
I appreciate the help! Some google searching of brands led me to find TCB but their 50s reproduction has tears too haha: https://tcbjeans.myshopify.com/products/tcb-50s-jeans-one-wash
TCB JEANS
TCB 50's Jeans/ One-Wash
Fabric：Approx.13.5oz Zimbabwe Cotton 100%Details：Hand-made paper patchThreads：Sewing thread 100% cotton (Thread Color:4 different/ Yarn count: 5 kinds)Proudly Designed and Made In Kojima, JAPAN *50's Jeans run smaller than jeans from any other brands so be sure to check the measurements on the size chart. TCB started
Any other brands recommended at TCB's price point?
those pics in there are not what they come like
those are the jeans faded out
one wash means they'll look like the ones in the first 4 pictures
thank you
yeah that's another issue with TCB, they don't have one with similar colors to the one I got (wanted to get light colored jeans to go with certain shirts, already have a pair of mid blue 505s). I do need to get an indigo pair of jeans as well however
oh I'm dumb, you mean they don't have tears new
I mean if you're looking for light wash, raws probably aren't the best option
perhaps I'll stick with the Levi's for my light wash jeans then, the tears were very minimal from what I remember. I'm waiting for 30 length ones to arrive to my house as Levi's tailor said the 32 they had on hand was too long
I imagine 3sixteen is well recommended here for raw selvedge? I could wait for the CS-100x to come on sale and try them on in store
yeah they're one of the classics
i think some of the japan-based brands are more recommended
But if you're looking for slimmer denim you'll still probably like 3sixteen or Rogue Territory
thank you! A bit slim is alright with me as long as it still falls within being a classic straight fit and the rise is mid to high (higher rise seems cool to me)
oh in that case the JP brands may be of more interest to you
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thank you, really appreciate it!
Edwin are still a more budget friendly option
TCB are usually pretty well priced on Denimio. I'm not a fan of the Edwin painted pockets
But some people like it
Sugar Cane 1947 from Denimio or Hinoya is also a good budget option
Those sugar canes are cool
I think my next pair will be the TCB30s I'm liking the wider fit on them and the repro details like the back cinch
TCB 30s are dope. Back cinch is a nice detail
I love my sugar cane hawaii jeans
My Kapital Century denim makes me wish that back cinches never went out of fashion. They’re so practical; it’s like having a belt without a belt
What are your guys’ go to pairs nowadays? I just got the PBJ double indigo extra slub 13oz stretch, so I’m excited to wear those. Got a bunch of pairs on the backburner too from RGT and N&F.
warehouse duck digger in banner denim
I’m considering getting my first pair of raw denim in the near-ish future, and I wanted to make sure I understood what I’m getting into. I’ve read that the dye can transfer onto furniture, clothes, shoes, etc. How long does this last for?
That will entirely depend on which brand you buy. Some are worse than others, the term for it is crocking so I guess if you searched you could probably find something giving some comparisons on how much certain brands will crock
Ok, that’s good to know
I’m looking at Gustin and TCB for reference. Possibly brave star
Crocking usually isn’t that big of a deal, as indigo washes off pretty easily. Doesn’t really show up on much besides white, and I’ve never had anything be permanently stained.
Don’t get gustin
Damn I want these:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CvxWCWEO-1g/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Definitely depends on the brand but something you could look out for is once washed denim as opposed to raw. The initial wash removes most excess dye. Crocking can still be an issue but much less so compared to raw.
I got my grandpa some raw jeans a couple years back - he threw them away when they left indigo on his car's seat leather 😂
Those are really tight
I'd recommend Unbranded over either of these. Better quality, same price range. Sister brand to Naked & Famous.
yes, I had seen TCB had a one wash option and was already considering that hoping to get more reliable sizing
I would recommend TCB over N&F or Unbranded just on account of patterning. Their rises and thigh dimensions can leave much to be desired
A lot/most things from Denimio will be one wash or offer one wash vs no wash. At least for the jeans I've looked at
Unless you can be bothered to look on yahoo japan I think Denimio usually has the best price for Japanese brands that I've seen
But you want to be confident in the cut/sizing of what you are buying
Rodeo Pine is slightly better. Also, their shipping is free and arrives in like, one or two days to the US, which is just insane.
Denimio is great though
Lol I was just about to suggest Rodeo Pine. Hinoya and Okayama Denim are also worth looking at
Hadn't heard of Rodeo Pine, will be wasting far to much time looking at this
Yeah this is fair, their cuts are fairly dated now
All those Japanese companies typically get their stock way earlier than American retailers in addition to the better prices. Denimio Hinoya and Rodeo will also hold on to rare stock for longer because they don’t advertise well.
To be fair, any Japanese repro brand also has a dated cut 😂
time is a flat circle
we're coming back round
Lol very true, I guess I just meant not on trend
Where's that fashion is cyclical copy pasta
I’m wearing tapered jeans right now and I’m loathe to get rid of them because I love the fabric, but I truly don’t think I’ll go back to tapered or slim fit when it comes back around. Straight and wide leg pants are just a revelation comfort wise
Opposite for me lol while I’ve never liked Skinny jeans I’m still rocking my fitted tapereds because I tried some straight fit jeans recently not even relaxed or loose just straight and the extra flowy fabric on my calves and ankles is just so uncomfortable to me
I’ve embraced the flow. If anything, I’ve only craved even wider as of late
I’ve been pulling out my wider fits lately primarily because it’s been so hot. Those wider legs are a lifesaver in really hot weather, and they create a better silhouette with oversized tops, which unsurprisingly are also great in hot weather. I like the look of my more tapered pants with my boots and sneakers though, so when it cools down I’ll probably switch back.
I had my eye on TCB 50s for a while but ended up getting a deal on some Made in USA Sugar Cane 1947s.
I'm intrigued by the Naked & Famous True Guy as a straight leg option but there's really no reason to go with them over a brand like TCB unless you're getting massive discount.
N&F prices crazy these days
ISO: black wax, 10”+ rise, slim denim.
28in waists are often too roomy with rise above 8”
Why can’t I find Levi’s type 1 jacket length anywhere 🤬 they have shoulder, chest, and sleeve measurements but not length
What size? I have a Levi's Premium Type 1 in L
Hot soaked it once but I can measure the length if you want.
Was honestly looking at either small or medium as what I can find online says they run massive?
I’m 5’10 ~165 usually wear a medium in everything
The fit is generally bigger than a Type III but I went true to size. The L is around 25-26" long
im 5'8/5'9 like 180ish when this pic was taken (got fatter since)
the only really oversized thing for me is the sleeves are crazy long (i have them cuffed/rolled back one here)
@xmdot where are those carpenter pants from?
Anyone know how the sugar hill 1947 jeans fit? I take either size 28 or 29 waist, Levi's 505 I'm a 29 but j crew's relaxed fit chinos were too big in 29
Uniqlo!
cool, i hope they'll make them again
That L does look quite good on you, I wonder how much it shrunk with the wash.. would you mind measuring the length when you get the chance? I have another denim jacket that measures almost exact in shoulders sleeve and width to the M but yeah can’t get a length measurement on it. I’d like it a little more cropped compared since I have weirdly long torso and short legs lol
Pulled tight post-soak the length on the back not including collar is 25.5
with the fit also keep in mind the type 1 has a cinch in the back so you can adjust it a bit
high rise, roomy seat and straight leg.
much moreso than 505 imo
oh wait i thought you said sugar cane'
i don't know wtf sugar hill is
@frm3 some of the Japanese brands like TCB, Strike Gold will have reproductions of Levi's type 1 jackets if the length doesn't work out for you
yeah, i wouldn't even bother with levi's lol
Just as an example here's a strike gold type 1
https://www.thosethatknow.co.uk/shop/the-strike-gold-50s-1st-15oz-denim-jacket/
Those That Know
The Strike Gold 50S-1st 15oz Denim Jacket
Shop for The Strike Gold 50S-1st 15oz Denim Jacket at Those That Know. Priority worldwide shipping available.
TCB JEANS
■Pre-order■ S40's Jacket
■This is a pre-order page for S40's Jacket. Expected Delivery: the end of August ~ mid Sep 2023 *We stopped offering raw jeans or jackets. We've finally made something we had the biggest expectations about. When Hajime Inoue started TCB back in 2012, he was more fond of the standard vintages like 1955 model, 66 mod
Wow my regular run of the mill type 3 Levi's trucker from macys is 27" from bottom of collar seam to bottom of jacket (back)
These are like double the price tho 😭
Yep they are pricey, it's fine if that's not something you would want to spend. TCB stuff would usually be cheaper if you looked on Denimio, Okayama Denim, Rodeo Japan Pine
Lots of options on those sites and they will have size charts that should list the length
I should have said though, if you like the Levi's jacket and the size works for you then absolutely go with that one. You're the one who's wearing it and I'm just nerding out over Japanese denim
I’ll say that the premium type 1 is surprisingly nice for the price. Selvedge and surprisingly slubby. I’d rather have the TCB but it’s closer than I’d have thought
@daddyneedsadrink no yeah, I meant sugarcane my bad 😂
Thanks so much
i have 1957s, they're teh made in usa ones so idc if sizing is consistent but i had to size up one
@xmdot interesting, thank you. I may have to look for a store in nyc where I can try them on
If you're comparing to another pair that fits that helps too, Denimio, Self-Edge etc have great measurements
Thank you!
Is their any downside to getting 12 oz sugar canes instead of the 14 oz?
No
Is $126 a fare price for a 70s lee 101j trucker jacket?
Is that the blanket version or unlined? Depending on the condition it's probably a good deal for the former or a bit expensive for the latter.
eBay
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i don't see a lining? thank you for the help!
Question about Levi's STF - I bought my regular size and have been wearing for ~4 months. If I do a cold tub soak, will I be able to wash them later in the machine on cold without any shrinkage?
I have a pair of Oni's that are unsanforized but were one wash when I got them. They stretched out a decent amount from wear, did the first wash in the machine at 30c and they shrank back down but have stretched out again
Doesn't directly answer your question but hopefully helps a little
In my experience the waist wont shrink much and if it does it usually stretches back out after a couple wears. The big shrinking point is likely to be length. They will still shrink if they are immersed in water regardless of temp from my experience. hot water will just exacerbate the shrinking a bit more
On my 2nd pair of stf's in the last 2 years and I lost about 2-3 inches in inseam each time I did the first wash
this ebay seller tends to list a lot
holy shit a reseller with sane prices??
gritts does have occasionally some really shitty prices but there are a bunch of deals to be had
Does anyone have any experience with TCB denim? Specifically how much stretch in the waist for the one wash?
this might be a weird question but, why is there so much cheap second hand Acne Denim about, when they retail for a lot?
I see loads for like 30-40 gbp which is Wrangler money
Same thing is true of APC it’s really weird, tons and tons of brand new pairs of jeans for like a third or less of retail
Got to handle some Kapital no9 at Standard & Strange. V fun
Which color is that?
Oh god idk. I don’t think I took a pic either
That’s okay haha I looked it up, it’s like a dark indigo
Looks almost black
That’s the mud dyed one right?
Was definitely kinda dark but I wouldn’t say black at all? More like a muddy indigo if anything
Oh yeah you right
Just bad lighting on some of the pics
That one fades crazy iirc
Does anyone have recommendations for a black high rise straight fit selvedge? Preferably easy to get in Europe. I've mostly been able to find either high rise tapered or mid rise straights
budget?
how much are you willing to spend 💸
I guess around 300 euro
Have been looking at these, but they're mid rise https://www.ironhearteu.com/bottoms/ih-634s-142od.html
You will be able to get something for a lot less than ironheart prices
I will drop some suggestions
https://www.burgundschild.com/en/jeans/straight-leg/sc41470-type-iii-13oz-black-slim-fit - also mid-rise though
Burg & Schild
SC41470 "Type III" 13oz Black Slim Fit
The black "SC41470 Type III" is an updated version of the classic "1947" and following "1947 Type II" model from Sugar Cane. It brings the classic details of the jeans from the late 1940s, packaged in a contemporary slim fit silhouette...
Indigofera Kirk
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Okayama Denim
Okayama Denim
Okayama Denim is a web store specializing in Japanese Selvege denim, all of which is produced in the famed denim manufacturing prefecture of Okayama.
you will usually find better prices than buying from places outside Japan
there are other sites but I can't remember them at the moment
Thanks, will check it out
But... muh Japanese motorcycle culture
There's an insane markup on IH outside of Japan, like those jeans are probably around 200 euro to buy in Japan. Only reason I would avoid them
Browsed around a bit and now I'm in love with Oni, which is even more expensive than Iron Heart
for what it's worth i find Oni to be way nicer. They use really interesting denim whereas I find Iron Heart's whole thing is mostly just "really heavy denim"
I haven't ever seen Oni more expensive than IH either, unless you are finding Oni from UK/European stores reselling it
Hinoya.shop, Denimio etc usually have Oni in the around £150-170 range which is considerably less than you will pay for Iron Heart
Sayin all this there's nothing wrong with Nudie or Naked & Famous unless you ask some japan jeans only snobs
Oh yeah you're right, Denimio is much cheaper than where I was looking. Thanks
never really understood what would be wrong with it, apart from:
the issue now is whatever you like will inevitably be out of stock lmao
Yes, that was the case at the more expensive shops as well
This one has a launch in 3 days https://redcastheritage.com/collections/oni-denim
Redcast Heritage Co.
ONI Denim
The name of this iconic Japanese brand comes from the word ONI (Devil) and from the first thing many of us said the first time we touched its famous “secret denim”: “This denim is slubby like the devil”. Denimheads from around the world are fascinated by the incredibly slubby textures, irregular weave and low tension..
reasonable prices
tell that to my girlfriend please
How do these Japanese brands get away with smallest size being 29
Anyone ever try ALD’s denim? https://www.aimeleondore.com/products/ald-straight-fit-denim-4
Looking for a pair of denim with a slight taper in a similar medium wash without factory fades. I usually have to get denim hemmed to a 28” or 29” inseam which ends up making a lot of denim look too wide at the ankle for me. The Naked and Famous Easy Guys fit pretty great for me after a hem.
Aimé Leon Dore
ALD Straight Fit Denim at AimeLeonDore.com
Brand tax cannot be worth it tbh
Those look exactly like any pair of jeans you could get in the mall, and they’re not even selvedge.
They look like my mid blue 505s which I got for $50
I mean it's probably somewhat better construction but I don't see how it's worth it
Are japanese jeans totally different in sizing? The high waisted japanese jeans I'm looking at seem smaller in the waist but bigger on the hips than my 501's
All brands are different
Different patterns different cuts different styles
Higher rise jeans would typically be smaller in the waist than lower ones though
And have more room in the hips
Yes the waist is smaller ofc, but on the japanese jeans the waist seems to be even smaller and the hips larger?
You’ll have to be more specific. Japanese denim isn’t the monolith people make it out to be.
I mean it’s just two different cuts of jeans
all brand and their cuts are their own. Unless it’s a very deliberate repro
And repro 501s won’t be the same as modern Levi’s 501s anyway
For example Levi's 501 size 36: waist 49 cm, hips 59cm. Oni 266sesr waist 45cm, hip 62.5
I guess I’m not sure what the question is
Like is that normal?
It’s like comparing an oversized t shirt and a slim t shirt and saying that the measurements are different
Or are you asking if they will still fit you?
The 266sesr are also unsanf
I guess I am confused by similar fits (high waisted, straight, wide/relaxed) having different ratios between hips and waist. And not sure which one to follow to buy the right fit
It's not the different measurement but the ratio
I think most places are selling them one wash
but make sure the sizes you're looking at are for post wash and not pre
or you're gonna have a bad time
They're one wash
Do you like the fit of your 501s?
best advice I would say is measure your Levi's following this guide
https://www.denimio.com/sizing-guide/
Sizing Guide | Denimio Premium Japanese Denim | Momotaro Jeans, ONI...
Sizing Guide | Denimio Premium Japanese Denim
then compare your measurements to jeans on the Denimio site to see if the sizes will work
You don't have to buy from there but different sellers will measure in different ways so if you follow that guide and use their sizes you will at least know the measurements relate to your Levi's
I do, especially in the top block. They could be a bit wider downwards though
Alright, thanks, will do. The hip isn't included here though
The others are the same as I measured
I guess the most logical thing would be to follow the same size on the waist
If the rise is the same
Are the rises the same?
Yeah that
Bear in mind that those Oni's are 20oz so if any of the measurements are on the close to too small side they might end up feeling too small
There will be a good amount of stretch in them over the first wears though
Good to know. I just used these as an example though
They do make me feel all sorts of nice stuff
I mean
The secret fabric is fab
If the rise wasn’t so wonky on me I’d consider another pair
I have a pair in the 246
very nice and super comfortable once you get past the initial roughness
I feel like the back rise is super tall and the front is real low. So annoying
Mine were like sweat pants
If I were going to get oni jeans it would be the wide straights
That’s what I figured, worth asking!
It really depends on the brand. When I bought my OrSlow 107s from Blue Owl they were super responsive about sizing questions.
Denimio is great for that too honestly, they'll get back to you super fast
It’s with great regret that I inform you that my IH 888s no longer fit me well
This is my problem with a lot of brands. Orslow’s back rise needs to be a touch longer imo as they don’t sit where they should given the long front rise.
If you’re open to vintage, Levi’s 501xx (or 619 if you want a marginally smaller leg opening) can’t be beat unless selvedge is a must have. Berg and berg, Angloitalian, and Drake’s have what you want but you’ll pay a massive premium for what you get.
The Drake’s denim is exactly what I want, maybe I’ll get lucky on an eBay search.
This is the first I’ve heard of the 619, will check, thanks!
Keep an eye on marrkt and grailed too - I’ve snagged three nwot pairs there. I prefer the older made in England version as the newer cut doesn’t work as well for me.
Thoughts/experience with Edwin denim? Currently I could get a pair for around 100 Euro, wondering if I should pull the trigger
Pretty sure they are pretty solid. One of the more original Japanese brands I think
By original I mean they were founded in 1947
not original in terms design etc
made their first jeans in 1961
I had some Edwin selvedge skinnies back in the day and they were pretty nice. Nothing very special fabric or fit wise, but just decent quality for the price
Edwin and Evisu were my gateway to selvedge. Always a special place in my heart for them
I was always put off of Evisu due to the giant white logo on the back of them
I can remember them being everywhere in the early 2000s I think
I’m not really a huge fan of arcuates now, but back in the day I was enamored
Which model are you looking at?
Sometimes I like to do a released hem on a pair of jeans that's just a touch too short
But generally when I raw hem I just let them strings strang
Nah because I like frayed edges and pretending I’m a beautiful Friesian horse frolicking on Dutch fields
This model on zalando: https://www.zalando.pl/edwin-jeansy-slim-fit-kaihara-pure-indigo-ed322g06w-k12.html which I guess is this model on Edwin’s website: https://edwin-europe.com/slim-tapered-jeans-kaihara-dark-pure-indigo-rainbow-selvage-13-5oz-100-cotton-blue-unwashed-i030683-01-99
Slim Tapered Jeans
Julius is 184cm tall and is wearing Size 32/32.
Why the slim fit?
I just prefer it 🙂
I have a pair as my go to everyday jeans, well worth 100 euro
mine are a straight fit rainbow selvedge, the denim is good
Bought it, let’s hope I picked the right size 🤞
So are there any straight fit jeans with a good rise @ll.beansandrice seems like you have purchased a bunch
I'm fine with my Levi's but want something more 
My 888s are p good tho technically more of a mid rise. My 90s Levi’s are the best tbh
Sugar Cane 1947, Indigofera Kirk, Tender Co 125, Warehouse Lot 1000, Freewheelers 1947, Dawson Straight, Fullcount 0105
great list
There’s prolly a lot more, but this is what sprung to my immediate mind. Some of these I’ve owned. Some are on the list of jeans to own someday
I second the Sugar Cane 1947 rec. It is easily my favorite pair of jeans.
TCB 30s another one
There's some from more fashion-focused brands. I might still have links laying around
Ah yes, any jean from Studio Nicholson has a decent rise, Black Horse Lane Atelier, Trophy, and Scott Fraser Collection also have jeans with dope rises, though may be a little wider than desired. Ooe and Conor’s Sewing Factory makes very cool jeans but hard to acquire outside Japan.
I think it’s prolly the best value straight leg selvedge. Denim is very good for the price point and the fit is superb.
I've been eyeing those as a potential future buy, they are like $150 and they have one wash rather than raw ones
Feeling very comfy in my 505s rn tho lol
The sugar canes I mean
this dude linked quite the deal in q&a tho: https://www.levi.com/US/en_US/clothing/men/jeans/straight/80s-501-z-selvedge-mens-jeans/p/A22310000?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&adpos=&camp=PLA*EC*US*EN*17004636363*PMAX*goog*&gclid=CjwKCAjwu4WoBhBkEiwAojNdXrPXgHtA4wEmDP5UwazVvbJ3Rb9DqWXaHUBWfvEBEkfSeC6hbE-RAxoCr6kQAvD_BwE
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would be $111 with the discount
it'd be more ethical to thrift these tho
I might swoop these
15% off this week with one of their codes
my fullcount 1101 are straight leg with a decent rise
freewheelers 601
sugar cane 1955 too
samurai s510
Also a very good list
as you might be able to tell i have too many pants
what's the ideal number of jeans 😂
N+1
how's edwin vs sugarcane out of curiosity?
I bought the oni wides. I was mistaken on the code tho sorry
But I have been trying to find them in stock and they are sold out everywhere so I pulled the trigger
Been dragging my feet on these vs the fullcount wide for 2-3 months so the impulse buy might have gotten the best of me
One wash is still raw
I didn't know that thank you!
But will one wash still shrink like raw denim when washed?
What you want to key in on is sanforized vs unsanforized. Sanforized you won't get much shrinkage if any, Unsanforized will shrink. One wash usually implies an unsanforized denim has been washed or rinsed to get all the shrinkage out.
That's why it's super helpful that sites like Denimio will often list both the "raw" and "one washed" measurements, but they're still considered Raw.
Also gonna second (third? fourth) 1947s. I have the MiUSA ones but I think the cut is still the same as the regulars and I like that they're actually closer to a 50s cut than an LVC 1947.
Thank you!
not sure where you are, but Sugar Canes are twice the price here
Pretty much identical price for Edwin and Sugar Cane on denimio
oh, thats a much cheaper site than I was looking at
https://www.denimio.com/oni266-sesr-20oz-secret-super-rough-denim-relax-straight.html ah fuck I'm tempted
ONI266-SESR 20oz Secret Super Rough Denim Relax Straight
Not many people know this but the spinning mill that made the yarn for the original secret denim was destroyed in a fire. ONI was able to reproduce most of the texture of the fabric but a certain roughness remained elusive. Until now!
By combining the yarn and weave structure of the Asphalt Denim with with the warp and weft dye of the Secret De...
denimio is the best honestly, and their customer service is always super helpful
ah fuck free shipping as well, you've done me in here
I've ordered from them twice to the UK. Both times I've selected the option at shipping for them to mark it as a 2000yen fabirc sample. Escaped customs charges so far and they arrive in around 48 hours from japan with free shipping 
turns up faster than buying things from retailers in the UK
turns up faster than buying things from retailers in the UKI got hit with small duties when I shipped to Canada but Canada customs is really diligent. And yeah, the shipping was unfathomably fast.
Shipping with denimio was so fast I almost wanted to ask if there was another option "excuse me, my jeans are not such an emergency that they need to be shipped literally across the globe at the fastest speeds possible"
That FedEx flight is happening with or without your jawns haha
That's now I justify it to myself at least
Did they send you tracking numbers in the past. Ordered something last week and don't have order confirmation email yet and now scared it is sold out and about to get my order cancelled
Takes a few days to ship if you didn't pay for the fast shipping option. If you log into your account it should give the order status there
I think it was three or four days from placing the order to shipping on my last one
Maybe check in this week. Since they’re basically drop shipping they might not actually be able to obtain the jeans you ordered
Dropshipping? I thought they acted as a middle-man for certain pairs but the majority of them they stocked themselves.
Just start a chat with their customer service if you’re worried, they’re helpful.
I meant to say they will just go to a store and buy the jeans you order and ship them
And in the case of Okayama denim they just have piss poor inventory management and are frequently sold out of things that show as available on their site
Denimio only does that for items labelled as 'proxy' I think?
Yes they did, but I havent ordered since 2020 so my experience might not be relevant
i think i'm ready for my first Good jeans after so many disappointing purchases from levi/uniqlo
i keep hearing Sugar Cane 1947s and I like the look of 'em
where should I buy and how do I know which size is the right for me?
Hinoya usually has the best price but worth checking Denimio as well. Size up one from true waist size
is hinoya best price even with shipping?
Yeah usually
cool
i have a fear of buying these fancy jeans and having them not fit or not liking the loook
I feel like this is just part of the process for a lot of us who are into denim 😓
Really just gotta nail down your proper measurements and it will make things much easier
Hinoya probably your best bet for now as Denimio have only size 28 listed, I would check as they have some Black Friday deals listed but I didn't look at what they are
Also what elbarto said, find the measuring guide on the site that you intend to buy from and measure a pair of jeans/pants you like the fit of to compare the sizes against the jeans you want to buy
Over break I did a tub soak/first wash on my 501s. They shrunk up pretty much exactly how I wanted and as a bonus they feel even more comfortable now! I'm not sure if you can tell much a difference, but here's the before/after.
Really glad I went with the Pure Blue Japan WSB-019. Fit, material, and slub is incredible. Got it from a chicago company called Mildblend Supply Company
What fit did you go with? I am in love with my WSB 003s
Looks like Roy from ROY Denim was selling some old pieces (may be all gone now). Kind of cool to see that name pop up again
https://roydenim.com/
Site is super super slow though
Thats a name I havent heard in ages
$600 for a pair of denim is steep tho
All sold out
Oh damn. I couldn’t get it to load, didn’t see the $600.
I’ve been trying to bleach a pair of old Uniqlo selvedge that I otherwise wouldn’t be wearing. Tried 3 times with varying quantities - they’ve definitely lightened (not as much as I’d like) but it seems like you really do need to use a LOT 😂
or let it sit for a long time
Hmm yeah, maybe that’s worth a try at the weekend
Edit: Or now they've definitely lightened now - not BRIGHT but bright enough. I'm happy I'm going to get more use out of a garment that otherwise would've just sat in the wardrobe.
they've definitely lightened now - not BRIGHT but bright enough. I'm happy I'm going to get more use out of a garment that otherwise would've just sat in the wardrobe.what was your full process?
a very unscientific process tbh
just filled up the bathtube with enough water for them to be fully covered, and then added bleach
to begin with I was measuring by capfuls, but by the 3rd/4th attempt I was literally just pouring in bleach and then checking to see if they looked any lighter - and then adding more if it didn't seem like any change occurred. Left them around 2-3 hours each time - rotating every half hour or so
then rinsed them, then washed them a couple of times
Trying to find some good mid-wash denim in a color similar to that of ALD’s straight fit but with a higher rise and a slight taper. I like these for the color and lack of distressing.
https://www.aimeleondore.com/products/ald-straight-fit-denim-4
Asket’s mid-wash is looking like my best bet. Any other recommendations in a similar fit?
Aimé Leon Dore
ALD Straight Fit Denim at AimeLeonDore.com
what about Orslow in the 2 year wash?
Kafka Mercantile
107 Slim Fit 2 Year Wash Jean - Washed at Kafka Mercantile
The 107 Ivy Fit 2 Year Wash Jean by orSlow is a slim fit fade out laundered denim. These are a super authentic take on classic Americana. The jeans are crafted in a 13.5 Oz Japanese Denim and feature a classic five pocket set up, white selvedge and twisted right leg. The fit is slim to regular.
- 100% Cotton- 13.5oz Laundered Selvedge Japanese D...
You will be able to find them for less than the price shown there, I just shared that link as an example
Norse projects regular or relaxed denim in "vintage indigo"
Well rise might be about the same
I do like my rinsed OrSlows, might need to keep an eye out.
Didn’t consider Norse Projects, thanks!
They are quite nice. I actually have a pair of the regular jeans size 29, I feel like they are more of a slim straight than straight.
But I sized down from my usual size of 30 so that may be why
I like berg and berg’s washed denim, a bit pricey though. Also Borali for a cheaper option in europe
Anyone have experience with Maruni Jeans? There doesn’t seem to be a lot of info online. They seem to be affiliated with Oni Denim (?)
Considering these as good comfy jeans I can wear at home and out Hybrid Regular Tapered Joggers https://www2.hm.com/en_au/productpage.1013317002.html
Hybrid Regular Tapered Joggers https://www2.hm.com/en_au/productpage.1013317006.html
Don’t know if I should go for denim blue or black
I think these look really bad and you would be better off just buying something else not from HM
Sorry if that is harsh ❤️
I think if you want sweat pants you should just buy some sweatpants.
That’s fair on both counts, just thought it’d be nice to have denim style that I can also lounge around in y’know?
Or maybe I should just look for fun joggers?
I feel Easy Pants (elastic waist, no cuffs at hem) are a better execution than the denim jogger hybrid. And you can get them in a denim fabric if that’s your thing
The next question tho is there something inherently about denim that isn’t comfortable to you? Denim’s pretty comfy to lounge about imo
It’s more the heavy structure with a belt mainly. If I wanna lounge I don’t to be dealing with a belt, y’know?
Btw, link?
Ah my bad, forgot that i shouldnt delete photos
https://www.muji.com/sg/products/cmdty/quick/4550583086961 i was thinking about these Muji ones
I am a fan of Muji
You can’t lounge around in jeans?
Of course I can but not dealing with stiff pants structure and a belt is nicer
I might look at Carhartt and Muji tomorrow to see what works best for me
Anyone know where I can find Oni's 200 cut in the US? I've found some retailers online and they're all out of stock
Blue Beach Denim
【ONI DENIM】 ONI200 Low Tension Wide Straight Jeans 15oz
ONI-200 Low Tension Wide Straight Jeans 15oz Desciption ONI200 uses old looms that have been in service for decades to bring classic denim pants similar to the 1950s. Mr. Oishi, the manager, not only specializes in the innovation of special fabrics, but also remains passionate about retro making, and adjusts them throu
Not US but they ship internationally
Haven't seen them in stock anywhere else
Thanks!
You're welcome! Did you get a pair? Interested to see these in a fit haha
Have any of y'all ever used this website? They have a ton of Japanese clothing, including tons of denim, for kinda crazy low prices, low enough I'm worried it is a scam site or something.
https://www.newfashionfinery.com/
99.9% a scam, looks like the same web template all the other dupe sites use when tehy clone a real store
their address appears to not exist
Yeah this looks like they cloned Hinoya
yup
I knew it was too good to be true!
It's remarkable to me that there's enough people lusting after these Japanese brands that it's worth it to try and scam some of them. I figured there's, like, ten of us.
cost is near zero to set these sites up so it still works
Is Assembly Label, Unison, or Article One good choices for jeans?
Personally I have not heard of any of these.
They’re Aussie brands/labels
Assembly label is alright. I’d compare it to like Country Road. Decent depending on what you’re after. Never heard of the other two
Have you considered more denim forward brands like Neuw?
I haven’t yet but maybe. My old Country Road black jeans which I wore almost every day for years finally died after getting too many non serviceable holes. So I’m looking for a replacement which can last just as long or longer
Article One is a newish brand from Sydney and Unison used to be called French Connection but it’s now Australian owned iirc
I’m getting the sense that you’re after something Aussie focused over say bigger brands like uniqlo or COS?
I owned Neuw black denim probably 4-5 years back and they were good. Fabric was thicker than most other mass market denim. I haven’t handled any of their recent stuff though.
I should probably check out article one out of interest
Yeah I’ve tried a few Uniqlo jeans and didn’t like the shape too much. Also Cos isn’t really a thing here
Sorry assumed you’re in Syd and we definitely have a few COS stores
All g
wranglers are the best jeans
Accidentally cooked the patch on my Sugar Canes on my last wash. Was on handwashing autopilot and put some oxiclean in with the soak.
Jeans look fine though, I'm not super concerned about it tbh
Nah looks good tbh
yeah it mostly just fucked up the dye on it, ill condition the leather a bit because it dried out but it is what it is
Any recommendations on buying selvage for the first time?
If you end up wanting cool Japanese stuff for a decent price, denimio is your friend
Compare sizing charts against jeans you already own that fit how you want
Denimio as said above have a faq on their website showing you how they measure
Others are Hinoya, Okayama Denim and Rodeo Japan Pine Avenue
Make sure you know if what you're buying is completely raw vs one-wash vs sanforized vs washed and how much shrink & stretch it's likely to have as a result.
I usually go for light/faded and black. I have only bought slim fit so I would like to try something different
Did you want vintage or new?
New
Is lightweight selvage a thing?
Yes, some brands make a light weight denim. Usually it’s around 11-12oz and might have some polyester to add stretch
Off the top of my head - 3sixteen has made a light weight in the past, N&F and Unbranded make a light weight selvedge.
Does anyone know what brands use Vidalia Mills denim? I’m looking for something similar to the 3sixteen relaxed straight cut.
I’m in Australia and the only two brands I know that have stores here that sell selvage (or selvage styled) is Nudie Jeans and Uniqlo on a technicality
I really like the print on the cuffs here https://tateandyoko.com/collections/naked-and-famous/products/super-guy-kimono-print-selvedge
Tate + Yoko
Super Guy - Kimono Print Selvedge
The Kimono Print Selvedge is a 12.5oz Japanese Selvedge Denim woven on vintage shuttle looms in Okayama, Japan. The exterior warp is indigo rope dyed, giving the denim a deep color that will fade beautifully with wear. On the inside, you'll find a traditional Japanese kimono pattern printed on the weft, adding a touch
As someone who always cuffs my jeans having something interesting to show off would be fun, hence why I am looking at Selvage denim
But the problem is that it’s button fly
i love button flys. Unless you have experience with one and know you dont like it, id recommend giving it a try
Selvedge is going to be button fly 9/10 times.
This is a super super skinny cut just FYI. I don't like the print but that's personal so up to you though.
Almost all of my favorite pairs of jeans are button fly. I prefer them over zippers
n&f has a lot of interesting stuff but none of their cuts work very well for me and I end up selling or donating every pair I get
Yeah I’ve tried a few times before and didn’t like it
I also want to go either my usual which slim fit or try something one step above
da skinnies for today
Left Field NYC is the big one that does. The Smokestack cut is the closest to the RS
Cool thanks!
Are Nudie Jeans a good choice for Selvage denim?
There's a Nudie shop in my city
and it's also a repair shop
I'm a fan of nudie stuff. I don't have any jeans from them but I've got a couple pairs of pants and I like them
Don't they have lifetime free repairs?
I believe so yeh
That's pretty cool, especially living near a repair shop
You have to take them to a store in person but that won't be a problem for you loving near one
definitely
Good thing with them having a store near you is you can try on the different cuts and find one that works for you
I'm mainly looking to first replace my old reliable black jeans that lasted 5-7 years
of course, maybe try something that I wouldn't usually try
First goal is black denim with a zipper fly, I hate button flies
Why the hate for button flies? You've mentioned it a few times.
Personally, I prefer button fly.
The eternal debate
This is where chaps really get the job done
No fly
Easy access
It's funny, zipper flies are a huge turn off for me at this point with any kind of casual pants.
I have both but I do prefer zipper
the weird problem with buttons is I find that the top button bends inward more on button flies and can cause like a bruise/pain on the skin where it's next to
I do not know what causes this but it occurs in both my tighter fit and looser fit, sized-down and sized-up jeans
I like the button fly because it's fun to open
I've had that before and it isn't fun
Nudie is great. They have a ton of different cuts, so if you're near a store, I recommend trying on a few different pairs. I have a western-style denim shirt from them that I wear all the time.
Oh, definitely this 👆 Plus I’m far less likely to leave buttons undone, as opposed to a zip fly…
It's months later and I forgot to post here but I got these in the end and I love them
Has anyone here taken advantage of the yen yet?
Spent a couple of weeks in Japan last month and spent a good chunk of change. Considering heading back in a few months if rates are still favorable
Too frequently
Me looking at my items sitting in the japanrabbit warehouse 👁️ 👄 👁️
Found some Nudie Selvage Jeans that I like https://www.nudiejeans.com/product/lean-dean-dry-black-selvage
Lean Dean Dry Black Selvage
Without a doubt a favorite of ours - the almighty slim, tapered, fit Lean Dean in a crispy dry black comfort stretch selvage denim.
In the colour that I need (to replace my old black jeans)
And reasonably affordable with a zip fly
Never bought selvage/expensive jeans before, what is the major differences between them and something like Uniqlo jeans?
Not familiar with nudie myself but generally it's a quality jump. Although these do have stretch in them.
Selvedge is not necessarily an indicator of quality though.
(I've heard of Nudie, I just mean I haven't worn any)
Of course, but they are more expensive than regular jeans so I hope there is a noticeable difference in quality
Also stretch is also a nice addition imo
I'd assume the fit is more dialled in too. That pair's more slim than what's on trend but it's a pretty classic Nudie fit.
I usually wear slim fit so it’s not a major departure from my norm, main difference is material and hopefully quality
I am also looking Nudie as it’s probably the only local option for selvage (other than Uniqlo haha)
black nudie jeans tend to look pretty good when they're beat up. i wouldn't do the 'wait 6 months before washing' thing they have on their site though because slimmer cuts like that are more prone to crotch blowout
They also have a repair shop and supposedly lifetime free repairs
I agree. I’d probably give it a month or two as that’s basically what I used to do with my old regular jeans
I’d also like to get something in a more faded and looser cut, maybe something good for Aussie Summer would be awesome
But that might be a future venture
Fading it yourself will look better. Or buying someone else's beat up pair. Pre-faded honestly doesn't look great IMO. But they're just jeans. Gotta wear what you like.
Of course
I love the idea of your own pair fading with you over time, shows character and personality
But it does take time
If anybody else has experience with Nudie jeans let me know
Nudie is known to have a lighter weight and more stretch than most selvedge brands. The ones you posted are like that as well: 12.7 oz and 'comfort stretch'. r/rawdenim, or the 'traditional' denimheads hate it for this reason: they are dogmatic for heavy and 100% cotton. If you want to go slim and stretchy, nudie is great. It's a bit dated, but so is obsessing about heavy weight denim. So yeah wear what you like
I've had Nudie and Uniqlo selvedge jeans. The Nudies were nicer, but not in a life changing sort of a way.
In that sort of price range, Unbranded, EDwin and others are available and worth looking at
Living in a humid climate I’d only get to wear heavy denim when I travel overseas so it’s not worth it. I also usually wear “dated” items because they are more comfortable for me and work better for me
Even though Nudie is almost 6-7 times the price of Uniqlo??
Wait really? They come out at about..double, 1.5 times really. If theyre like 300 bucks there are for sure better options
Uniqlo Selvedge: $59.90 AUD
Nudie Selvedge Jeans: $350 AUD
Whew lad! Yeah I think there's a LOT of choice at that price point
Maybe they just jacked up the prices a lot since I paid ~120 GBP
they're around £150 now I think
but still not as high as the AUD price
oh actually scratch that the selvedge stuff is ridiculously expensive
Yeah it seems Selvedge is priced as extra premium down here
And it’s weird because there’s a Nudie store in my city and they’re still expensive
There is not a world where I'm paying that much for stretch Nudie jeans
If it was $250AUD maybe
But $350AUD nah
And that’s the cheapest option too
Two random ones from Denimio. You can get a pair of Left Field's for less than that.
My rec would be to grab something from denimio, bears or one of the similar JP based web stores
they will usually offer free shipping and some will declare the item low/as a sample on the paperwork
I would also avoid stretch personally as the stretch fibres have a tendency to wear out quicker than the cotton as far as I can tell
I also prefer lighter weight garments as I live in a humid climate
So I don’t need any heavyweight raw denim
weight isn't the only factor, the tightness of the weave will make a difference also
I don’t want anything too restrictive, hence why I was considering stretch fabric
But if they need stretch to not be restrictive then maybe it's not the material but the cut that's the problem. Both those cuts are slim-tapered like the Nudie's you liked.
This is pretty nice, also has the signature Momotaro accents https://www.denimio.com/en_AU/clothings-bottom-jeans/MXJE1205.html?cgid=jeans
they are 15.7oz btw
and momotaro have a very tight weave in their jeans
a left hand twill could be a good option.
but i hear you about living in australia and not wanting it to be too heavy, im in canada and i basically can't wear jeans most of the summer lol
I hate wearing shorts so I often resort to linen blend pants but they require so much maintenance
If only these were available, they’d be super fun https://www.denimio.com/en_AU/japan-blue-jb0411-10oz-dry-cotton-selvage-stretch-taperd-purple/JB0411PUR.html?cgid=jeans
Faded Purple jeans would go :hard:
What is considered lightweight selvedge? 15oz?
No, that's on the heavier side. I think 11-12oz is standard. The Nudie's you were looking at were 12.75
But like Soup said sometimes the weave can also play into the heaviness or breathability of the fabric.
I also don't mean to discourage you either, like if the Nudie's feel like the move, do your thing. They're just jeans. But I do think there's maybe better options for the price.
This is cool because of the origin of the cotton https://www.denimio.com/en_AU/circle-14oz-zimbabwe-x-australian-cotton-vintage-selvedge-black-straight-one-washed-circlebk/J316BK.html?cgid=jeans
Got it so anything under 13 should be fine
But maybe try for 10 if possible
looks like this Aussie shop sells that cut of Japan Blues https://corlection.com/collections/denim/products/japan-blue-14oz-double-black-circle-denim-slim-tapered-fit?_pos=14&_fid=57736bdc8&_ss=c&variant=42796372328501
They also have PBJs for only a few bucks more than the Nudie's and there's a huge jump in quality between those two, fabric-wise.
CORLECTION
Japan Blue 14oz Double Black 'Circle' Denim (Slim Tapered Fit)
Japan Blue... in Black! Easy to wear and super-stylish, Japan Blue always has a place in anybody's wardrobe. To round out all indigo blue offerings we stock we're pleased as punch to prsent their "Black Denim" line. Made entirely in Japan from 14oz selvedge denim, these are 'All-Season' denim made with all the JB fin
These also came up when I looked:
https://maplestore.com.au/collections/mens-denim
https://blueworkstore.com/
Maplestore
Mens Denim
Since 2003, denim has formed the cornerstone of our business, whether it's a pair of heritage five pockets from Levis', raw rigid Japanese denim from Sugarcane, or the softest washed back pair from Nudie. Most of the brands we carry have a rich story behind them, earning their place as premium makers of the world's bes
Blue Works Vintage Clothing Store
BlueWorks American casual men's clothing
We have huge range of Japanese denim and American casual style clothing,trying to give you unique experience.
Awesome, thank you so much
I’m going to have a fun late night researching selvedge denim haha
From a quick glance I really like the accents of momotaro and tanuki jeans
But Japan blue has some interesting pieces https://www.denimio.com/en_AU/jbje15003a-11oz-sashiko-5p-wide-tapered/JBJE15003A.html
I don’t even know what material that is but I love it
Looks comfy as hell
But looks pretty profesh and hard
Its a pretty unique kind of denim with thicker threads woven through it
If you're set on a black slim fitting pair, Full Count 1108BK would be good if you can find your size. https://www.celluloid1984.com/?pid=177697070
セルロイド CELLULOID
フルカウント 1108BK SLIM STRAIGHT BLACK SELVEDGE DENIM スリムストレート ブラックセルビッチ...
CELLULOID(セルロイド)はリアルマッコイズ・フェローズ・フルカウント・ウエアハウス・サムライジーンズ・クッシュマン・デラックスウエア・ウエス・ウエスコ・ホワイツブーツ・ワイツーレザー・ファーストアローズ正規取扱店.
Alternatively Sugarcane SC41470 (linked and mostly in stock) or Freewheelers 601rb (probably hard to find at a reasonable price) https://bears-tokyo.myshopify.com/products/sugar-cane-sc41470-13oz-%E3%83%96%E3%83%A9%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%83%87%E3%83%8B%E3%83%A0%E3%82%B9%E3%83%AA%E3%83%A0%E3%83%95%E3%82%A3%E3%83%83%E3%83%88%E3%83%A2%E3%83%87%E3%83%AB?pr_prod_strat=e5_desc&pr_rec_id=d4e804b4a&pr_rec_pid=4998709248059&pr_ref_pid=7241396289595&pr_seq=uniform&variant=34036703559739
BEARS' -TOKYO-
SUGAR CANE
[SUGAR CANE, SC41470, 1947model typr3 13oz Black Denim SLIM FIT]denimThis model inherits the luxury and politeness found in jeans in the latter half of the 40's, similar to the representative model of SUGAR CANE, 1947 MODEL, but the silhouette is relatively thin.We have developed and used 13 ounces of selvage black den
Both shops linked here should be pretty painless to order from. If your open to wider or indigo pairs for summer Full Count 0105 (especially super smooth version) or Resolute 711 should be good options
Both look great but I want to find something with a zip fly
What jeans work well in a hot/~humid climate? My thighs are growing out of my 514s. Not planning grow em further as my upper body has a ways to catch up. I assume I should avoid high-rise as I'm 5'9" with a short torso, look for 12oz wt for heat, and do straight with a slight taper so I don't look too bottom-heavy. $150-200 budget
I see that Sugarcane 1947s are mentioned here and on r/rawdenim a lot but they are 14oz and high-rise. JapanBlue has lighter weight and the J304/J305s look like a great fit. Is 12 vs 14oz noticeable? What do you guys recommend?
12/14 isn't noticeable in my experience but I don't wear either much during the summer. 1947s are amazing but don't have the taper you seem to want.
I have no idea why you'd need to avoid high rise though.
Plenty of people your height and shorter make high rise look good every day!
As a fellow short boy I actually really like high rise pants/jeans
Oh that's encouraging bc I actually love the high-rise look and the 1947 cut looks great
I just thought they'd make my torso look even shorter relative to legs
Almost everything I wear is high rise and I’m 5’5” don’t avoid high rise
awesome thanks for all the help!
Def check out their fits in #waywt for inspiration!
1947s one of the best raws for the $$$ imo
Full Count 0105 (wide straight) or 1101 shoulde be good summer jeans - the new super smooth version shoud be especially so. Resolute 711 is a good straight leg, lower rise, lightweight pair. TCB 20s as well if you like the back cinch, suspenders, and belt loop combo (or at least don't mind)
coming from 514s to 0105s would be a crazy jump, i'd love to seet hat
Yeah they definitely would not fit the same as 514, but based on what I've heard from others they are super comfortable and first pair that comes to mind as a summer suggestion for others (new inseam too short for me). Wide fit should give good airflow too which is nice in summer. Resolute 710 (high rise, comparable legs) or 711 (comparable rise, wider leg)would be closer matches to 514
I have these and they're great for summer:
https://www.nakedandfamousdenim.com/en/sky-high-selvedge
Naked & Famous Denim
Sky High Selvedge | Naked & Famous Denim
The Sky High Selvedge is a 10oz lightweight Japanese Selvedge broken t will denim denim made with a blend of cotton and 18% real hemp fibers. Hemp fibers are naturally 4x stronger than cotton and provide extra durability for this lightweight denim. The color is a pale light blue inspired by vintage
today I wore 14.5oz black iron hearts in 80F w/full sun because I forgot my shorts at home because I am a fucking idiot
That’s my nightmare
I’m a cold weather creature
We have a pretty substantial range of japanese denim around
What city are you from?
Oops nvm scrolled further and can see you were already recommended stuff
Brisbane btw
Always happy to hear other recommendations
Ah yeah
Melbourne sydney and perth im pretty sure all have places
But idk about brissy
Classic situation haha
damn naked and famous actually made their april fools jeans with teh 100" inseam
👀
guy on /rawdenim posted it. said only 20 exist. hilarious bit but i cant imagine trying to walk in these
The feeling would be weird I imagine, also the sound
those are legitimately great
someone could pull some fully next level fits with those
not workwear style I would presume
just get them hemmed and they will be fine
they'd be good as wall decoration
especially if you have 11'+ ceilings
Or hang them like a tapestry on the ceiling
well well well