command line interface

King•8/6/23, 11:44 PM

I'm still convinced the only reason for J# existing was cause some person was just really really like "OMG I GIVE ME THE GODDAMN UNSIGNED"

LLyris the Kitori command line interface

Perksey•8/6/23, 11:44 PM

Knobs language infrastructure

Perksey•8/6/23, 11:44 PM

OR EVEN COMMON LANGUAGE INFRASTRUCTURE

KKing I'm still convinced the only reason for J# existing was cause some person was ju...

Lyris the KitoriOP•8/6/23, 11:45 PM

you can do unsigned in java by just using JNI to call into a better language like C or C++

Lyris the KitoriOP•8/6/23, 11:45 PM

then writing all your code in C/C++

Lyris the KitoriOP•8/6/23, 11:45 PM

then removing java

King•8/6/23, 11:45 PM

ewww don't remind me

King•8/6/23, 11:45 PM

I once tried implementing like... encryption into java

King•8/6/23, 11:45 PM

that involved unsigned bitshifting

Aqua•8/6/23, 11:45 PM

wait java doesnt support unsigned?

Perksey•8/6/23, 11:45 PM

Nope

King•8/6/23, 11:45 PM

and after like days of trying, turns out java don't like unsigned anything, not even bitshifting

Aqua•8/6/23, 11:45 PM

what

Lyris the KitoriOP•8/6/23, 11:46 PM

the easiest way to do it in pure java iirc is to use the next biggest type, then emulate the smaller type using bitmasks

King•8/6/23, 11:46 PM

I tried just using longs instead but yeah... when you work with encryption stuff and don't really have an entire college's worth of math knowledge

King•8/6/23, 11:46 PM

It becomes very impossible and very depressing

Lyris the KitoriOP•8/6/23, 11:46 PM

yea welcome to java]

AAqua *what*

Lyris the KitoriOP•8/6/23, 11:47 PM

yeah, theres 0 unsigned types in java i think aside from char?

King•8/6/23, 11:47 PM

And the worst part was that the encryption was like... XTEA

King•8/6/23, 11:47 PM

1000 years old and the most baby tier encryption stuff ever

King•8/6/23, 11:47 PM

and yet... nope

LLyris the Kitori yeah, theres 0 unsigned types in java i think aside from char?

Aqua•8/6/23, 11:47 PM

that is
an ouch
wtf
why
there is no logic in this

Lyris the KitoriOP•8/6/23, 11:48 PM

its simpler™

Aqua•8/6/23, 11:48 PM

b r u h

LLyris the Kitori its simpler\™️

King•8/6/23, 11:48 PM

^ literally every single Q&A on the matter you find will say something along those lines

Lyris the KitoriOP•8/6/23, 11:48 PM

yup

Lyris the KitoriOP•8/6/23, 11:48 PM

thats the official stance

King•8/6/23, 11:48 PM

You don't need unsigned, you silly billy

TechPizza•8/6/23, 11:48 PM

do you want even more logic?

TechPizza•8/6/23, 11:48 PM

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/809105216985235528/1137859715611774976/image.png

King•8/6/23, 11:48 PM

Just use a bigger type lol

TTechPizza https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/809105216985235528/1137859715611774976/...

TechPizza•8/6/23, 11:49 PM

dispatcher.register is generic, but literal could not infer it

Aqua•8/6/23, 11:49 PM

and pretty soon you discover that almost no C developers actually understand what goes on with unsigned, what unsigned arithmetic is. Things like that made C complex. The language part of Java is, I think, pretty simple.

TechPizza•8/6/23, 11:49 PM

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/809105216985235528/1137860422863704085/image.png

Aqua•8/6/23, 11:49 PM

ah yes the "the programmer is stupid" logic i see

TechPizza•8/6/23, 11:49 PM

absolute clusterfuck of fake generics

AAqua > and pretty soon you discover that almost no C developers actually understand w...

King•8/6/23, 11:49 PM

AAqua > and pretty soon you discover that almost no C developers actually understand w...

Lyris the KitoriOP•8/6/23, 11:50 PM

unsigned arithmatic in C is a huge clusterfuck
but thats because arithmatic in C is a huge clusterfuck in general

Lyris the KitoriOP•8/6/23, 11:50 PM

random implicit type widening

Aqua•8/6/23, 11:50 PM

yeah true

Lyris the KitoriOP•8/6/23, 11:50 PM

widening when you really dont want it to

TTechPizza https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/809105216985235528/1137860422863704085/...

King•8/6/23, 11:51 PM

Also don't forget the factories

King•8/6/23, 11:51 PM

And beans

King•8/6/23, 11:51 PM

And beanfactories

King•8/6/23, 11:52 PM

I wanted to contribute to a java open source project, but everything was just.... factories up down left right and center

TechPizza•8/6/23, 11:52 PM

but the test mocking!

King•8/6/23, 11:52 PM

Couldn't make sense of half the stuff because everything was factories piping into factories

TechPizza•8/6/23, 11:52 PM

the worst part is how people port C to Java to C#

TechPizza•8/6/23, 11:53 PM

and instead of using any pointers and unsigned from C, they go OOP all over the place

TechPizza•8/6/23, 11:53 PM

NVorbis is such a big offender

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