Hello good people, I am now 18 Rhino's away from my order. I am more of a novice at flight sims but

Hello good people, I am now 18 Rhino's away from my order. I am more of a novice at flight sims but ordered the Rhino last year as it looked fantastic for DCS Helicopters. My question:

CraptakulaROP•8/16/23, 7:19 AM

Can I use the rhino in a central position using a normal office chair with 5 caster wheeled legs?

CraptakulaROP•8/16/23, 7:20 AM

I don't have a sim pit, I don't have a fancy setup and I don't have the space for a dedicated sim pit frame. Can I use a normal office chair and a Monster.tech Long Mount? Will I need an S-bend extension with a virpil grip?

CraptakulaROP•8/16/23, 7:20 AM

sorry for my noob questions!

TheZoq2•8/16/23, 8:38 AM

I'm in a similar boat. You'll want something sturdy to mount it to and something that will keep you from pushing away from it with the chair. I think an S-bend is almost required, even with the virpil S-bend I wish my stick was a bit closer

TheZoq2•8/16/23, 8:39 AM

This is my setup, for reference https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/972180323787997255/1111001606918508545

VPforceBot•8/16/23, 8:52 AM

:package:

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CraptakulaROP•8/16/23, 9:52 AM

@thezoq2 your setup looks great. I could build that and save a lot of money on expensive mounts. What do you do for the throttle for collective?

TheZoq2•8/16/23, 9:53 AM

An expensive mount heheh

TheZoq2•8/16/23, 9:53 AM

The virpil desk mount specifically

CraptakulaROP•8/16/23, 9:54 AM

Yeah, I was looking at monster tech

TheZoq2•8/16/23, 9:54 AM

CraptakulaROP•8/16/23, 9:54 AM

But a nice wooden home made solution would be great

CraptakulaROP•8/16/23, 9:54 AM

Ah I see

TheZoq2•8/16/23, 9:55 AM

Shouldn't be too hard to build I think. The virpil mount is nice because it is super easy to remove. So I can put the whole setup aside for normal use

CraptakulaROP•8/16/23, 9:55 AM

Yeah sounds like a good solution

CraptakulaROP•8/16/23, 9:56 AM

I just need to get the room plastered, painted, new carpet, buy a desk, post for rhino, buy grip and build frame haha

CraptakulaROP•8/16/23, 9:56 AM

I’m going to have to buy the rhino now even though I’m not ready else I’ll be waiting years for another chance

TheZoq2•8/16/23, 9:58 AM

Yep, kind of know the feeling there. I had the rhino for weeks but couldn't try it because I didn't have a grip

TTC-Durham Do you like it?

mork•8/16/23, 11:19 AM

I love it and would recommend it to anyone. It serves my purposes perfectly.

AndyHill•8/16/23, 4:13 PM

I got somewhat interesting results with the new centering thing

AndyHill•8/16/23, 4:13 PM

felt like it was fighting me a bit at some point and even some slight oscillation

Reed•8/16/23, 4:21 PM

Are you still using balance and static force

AndyHill•8/16/23, 4:38 PM

inv•8/16/23, 6:32 PM

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Jon (Bounty_V)•8/16/23, 6:43 PM

mi-8 is multicrew now

Jehly•8/16/23, 7:19 PM

Just curious why you’d want that?

skyPickle•8/16/23, 7:40 PM

can someone explain experimental adaptive recentering for Spring.

skyPickle•8/16/23, 7:41 PM

and why it is needed (when to enable?)

SskyPickle can someone explain experimental adaptive recentering for Spring.

Number481•8/16/23, 7:41 PM

📃general

Number481•8/16/23, 7:42 PM

it uses up to %12 of the spring force to "find home"

skyPickle•8/16/23, 7:42 PM

why is it 'adaptive'? Doesnt spring force lready do this?

SskyPickle why is it 'adaptive'? Doesnt spring force lready do this?

Number481•8/16/23, 7:44 PM

yes, but its currently a fixed force that doesn't account for heavy grips, offset extensions and additional effects like friction and dampening... watch the vid. If your stick is always perfectly centerd when you let go of it.. then you dont need to enable the feature

skyPickle•8/16/23, 7:46 PM

thank you. I fly mostly choppers so i wonder if this simulates a stronger magnetic clutch. Will have to try it.

Number481•8/16/23, 7:47 PM

For me, (as seen in the video).. I find that it just helps the stick always return to a perfect center..

CCraptakulaR Hello good people, I am now 18 Rhino's away from my order. I am more of a novice...

TC-Durham•8/16/23, 8:13 PM

Essentially yes - I just used a floor protector like this - https://www.amazon.com/Hardwood-Computer-Low-Pile-Anti-Slip-Protector/dp/B0BHNMBGFR/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=office%2Bchair%2Bfloor%2Bguard&qid=1692216502&sr=8-6&th=1 and then 3m DUALLOCK to mount the base and rudder pedals thereto. However, I use a chair with no wheels, so locking wheels or similar wheel-less chair would be preferable. Nonetheless, will shortly be upgrading to the SimFab cockpit as even with a piles protector, my arse hurts on my current cheap chair, and everything will be much more rigidly mounted with the cockpit than the current setup involving the floor protector and various deskmounts for ancillaries.

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AndyHill•8/16/23, 9:07 PM

yes it's basically stronger centering and helps the stick find the centerpoint

AndyHill•8/16/23, 9:07 PM

I've been testing it a bit and I have noticed that sometimes it will try to find the centerpoint even if you'd prefer it not to

AndyHill•8/16/23, 9:07 PM

which is kind of to be expected

AndyHill•8/16/23, 9:08 PM

but especially modern jet autopilots just love that feature

Number481•8/16/23, 9:10 PM

yeah.. if you are tryig to make fine movements close to center it does feel a little weird and sometimes hiuccups

AndyHill•8/16/23, 9:42 PM

does this look reasonable otherwise or has someone been messing with my settings?

JJehly If you have a 3d printer. You’re good. If not, there’s services available.

blave549•8/17/23, 1:07 PM

Is there a Github repository or similar for the MFG FFB mod somewhere?

CCraptakulaR Hello good people, I am now 18 Rhino's away from my order. I am more of a novice...

blave549•8/17/23, 1:20 PM

If I was going to put together a center mounted stick with an office chair, I would construct a rectangular piece of MDF to mount the Rhino on, and have some sort of "cups" (or maybe just rectangular holes that the caster wheel to slot into to lock at least the front two casters on the chair in place w.r.t. the Rhino (assuming your chair doesn't already have caster locks). The one thing I wonder, though, is if the stick would have enough clearance in front of the chair (that doesn't have a cutout like some sim-specific seats) and still be comfortable. Same question for the clearance between the stick/grip and the front table edge.

For a while I used Virpil table mounts. I had the stick on the side; some people apparently find it ludicrous that I fly aircraft with center sticks in real life that way but I honestly never even thought about it until someone asked how I could stand it

. I liked the arrangement quite a lot -- I would just swivel the mounts away when I was working rather than simming. I eventually moved to a Monstertech profile setup -- which cost a hella lot more!

AAndyHill does this look reasonable otherwise or has someone been messing with my settings...

skyPickle•8/17/23, 9:52 PM

mine is default and looks like this:

skyPickle•8/17/23, 9:52 PM

skyPickle•8/17/23, 9:52 PM

dont know what periodic effects changes

NNumber481 For me, (as seen in the video).. I find that it just helps the stick always retu...

skyPickle•8/17/23, 10:03 PM

well, I still cant seem to get the stick trim to behave properly in the Apache. Regardless of how I set up trim in the VP configurator, the stick always pulls back towards the center when I release the trim button. My understanding is that the stick should be limp while I hold the trim button down and then lock into position when the button is released.

skyPickle•8/17/23, 10:04 PM

EVEN with hardware force trim and override trim boxes checked, the behavior does not change

SskyPickle well, I still cant seem to get the stick trim to behave properly in the Apache. ...

Number481•8/17/23, 10:14 PM

re-calibrate your base.....

Number481•8/17/23, 10:15 PM

discoverd last night that mine was slightly out of calibration and that was causing the jerk towards center when releasing force trim

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