can someone explain experimental adaptive recentering for Spring.
can someone explain experimental adaptive recentering for Spring.
Sand why it is needed (when to enable?)
Nit uses up to %12 of the spring force to "find home"
Swhy is it 'adaptive'? Doesnt spring force lready do this?
Nyes, but its currently a fixed force that doesn't account for heavy grips, offset extensions and additional effects like friction and dampening... watch the vid. If your stick is always perfectly centerd when you let go of it.. then you dont need to enable the feature
Sthank you. I fly mostly choppers so i wonder if this simulates a stronger magnetic clutch. Will have to try it.
NFor me, (as seen in the video).. I find that it just helps the stick always return to a perfect center..
TEssentially yes - I just used a floor protector like this - https://www.amazon.com/Hardwood-Computer-Low-Pile-Anti-Slip-Protector/dp/B0BHNMBGFR/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=office%2Bchair%2Bfloor%2Bguard&qid=1692216502&sr=8-6&th=1 and then 3m DUALLOCK to mount the base and rudder pedals thereto. However, I use a chair with no wheels, so locking wheels or similar wheel-less chair would be preferable. Nonetheless, will shortly be upgrading to the SimFab cockpit as even with a piles protector, my arse hurts on my current cheap chair, and everything will be much more rigidly mounted with the cockpit than the current setup involving the floor protector and various deskmounts for ancillaries.
Office Chair Mat for Hard Floors
Ayes it's basically stronger centering and helps the stick find the centerpoint
AI've been testing it a bit and I have noticed that sometimes it will try to find the centerpoint even if you'd prefer it not to
Awhich is kind of to be expected
Abut especially modern jet autopilots just love that feature
Nyeah.. if you are tryig to make fine movements close to center it does feel a little weird and sometimes hiuccups
Adoes this look reasonable otherwise or has someone been messing with my settings?
BIs there a Github repository or similar for the MFG FFB mod somewhere?
BIf I was going to put together a center mounted stick with an office chair, I would construct a rectangular piece of MDF to mount the Rhino on, and have some sort of "cups" (or maybe just rectangular holes that the caster wheel to slot into to lock at least the front two casters on the chair in place w.r.t. the Rhino (assuming your chair doesn't already have caster locks). The one thing I wonder, though, is if the stick would have enough clearance in front of the chair (that doesn't have a cutout like some sim-specific seats) and still be comfortable. Same question for the clearance between the stick/grip and the front table edge.
For a while I used Virpil table mounts. I had the stick on the side; some people apparently find it ludicrous that I fly aircraft with center sticks in real life that way but I honestly never even thought about it until someone asked how I could stand it
. I liked the arrangement quite a lot -- I would just swivel the mounts away when I was working rather than simming. I eventually moved to a Monstertech profile setup -- which cost a hella lot more!
For a while I used Virpil table mounts. I had the stick on the side; some people apparently find it ludicrous that I fly aircraft with center sticks in real life that way but I honestly never even thought about it until someone asked how I could stand it
. I liked the arrangement quite a lot -- I would just swivel the mounts away when I was working rather than simming. I eventually moved to a Monstertech profile setup -- which cost a hella lot more!
Smine is default and looks like this:
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Sdont know what periodic effects changes
Swell, I still cant seem to get the stick trim to behave properly in the Apache. Regardless of how I set up trim in the VP configurator, the stick always pulls back towards the center when I release the trim button. My understanding is that the stick should be limp while I hold the trim button down and then lock into position when the button is released.
SEVEN with hardware force trim and override trim boxes checked, the behavior does not change
Nre-calibrate your base.....
Ndiscoverd last night that mine was slightly out of calibration and that was causing the jerk towards center when releasing force trim
SI always calibrate after making changes to these settings. I still get this weird tendency of the stick wanting to return to center and settling about halfway there. If you enable the controls indicator, there are three symbols, the red X, the white diamond and the green cross. These are not explained in the manual but it seems the red X is where the FMC is set to (the position that is commanded after the trim button is released). The actual stick position is the white diamond and it will drift back towards center- about halfway and you can feel this as the motors of the Rhino pull the stick into that direction. I dont know what the green cross represents.
Smy stick is properly centered
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Sis 'static force' and 'balance spring' something I need to enable as well?
Nbalance spring can help negate the sagging effects of having a top heavy rear-offset grip.. but it shouldn't have any bearing on whether or not the stick is jerking towards center when releasing force trim
Nthe only times I've experienced the pull towards center is when having curves enabled in DCS or.. last night when I discoverd my calibration must have been slightly off because it immediately stopped doing that after I recalibrated in VPFConf
Njust to be clear... you are calibrating in VP Configurator.. not windows joystick panel, correct?
SFIGURED IT OUT: have to check the 'sticky' checkboxes. Now trim works as advertised
Syes, never calibrate in windows, it mucks up everything
NAre we talking DCS? Which module? should work without sticky set
Syes. DCS and Apache
Shuey doesnt need sticky
Adoesn't sticky override the in-game forces?
Nyes
Nare you certain you don't have axis curves set?
Awell if it works for apache, then it works
Ado note that it will override everything everywhere all at once, so try to disable sticky for other stuffs if you run into issues
SI really need an axis curve of 10 otherwise getting into a stable hover is too twitchy
Nthats why its jerking back on you then.. physical stick and virtual stick get out of sync with curves enabled and it messes up FfB
Awell then you'll probably need the override, but then again override should do the trick
Adoes this also happen when you set the curve in the vpforce configurator?
Sdidnt know you could set curves in the VP config
Nwas going to say the same thing
AI don't know either I've never done it, but I just assumed you could
SI know that axis scaling results in the kind of change you get by changing saturation in the dcs axis tuning
Sthere is no curve editor in vpconfig
Ayeah seems so