Honestly if Forge does what it advertises (and if it doesn't, I bet its way further along than me st

Honestly if Forge does what it advertises (and if it doesn't, I bet its way further along than me starting from scratch) I think its probably the better starting point than trying to slam gitea in

WaffleophagusOP•9/6/23, 4:45 PM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

WaffleophagusOP•9/6/23, 4:45 PM

but that conversation made me really curious to get it all building locally

WaffleophagusOP•9/6/23, 4:46 PM

Especially since I'll have multiple machines on the same image, save internet bandwidth

WaffleophagusOP•9/6/23, 4:46 PM

have it build locally then distribute to the entire house

bsherman•9/6/23, 4:46 PM

yea, i'd like to build locally too... i'd kinda like to get the workflows setup so theyd run on either github or gitea if possible

WWaffleophagus have it build locally then distribute to the entire house

bsherman•9/6/23, 4:46 PM

this is related

bsherman•9/6/23, 4:46 PM

I saw an interesting post by Walters today: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1263#issuecomment-1680999863

The important line is:

[Users can] mirror the OS update containers on their own to a registry and update it on their own timeframe and schedule. Which is what they already need to know how to do for application containers!

the context is replacing zincati/simplifying its function and instead of having complexity, managing things in a better way.

Got me thinking, having frequent upgrades of ucore/ublue is great, but the best way to gate them is to install from a local mirror, and then I choose when I want to sync the mirror with ghcr... it not only provides a buffer between build and install, but saves bandwidth for those are are running ublue/ucore on multiple systems.

WaffleophagusOP•9/6/23, 4:46 PM

yea, read that

bsherman•9/6/23, 4:46 PM

so, even if building in github, could just mirror to a local container registry

WaffleophagusOP•9/6/23, 4:47 PM

My inclination, at least with some of this, is to get it off of github

WaffleophagusOP•9/6/23, 4:47 PM

Personally I don't love the idea of "hey, my entire system configuration is in a public repo"

WaffleophagusOP•9/6/23, 4:48 PM

the tradeoffs right now are totally in the "worth it" camp, but if I can help get it to where its entirely onprem I'll happily be a guinea pig.

WaffleophagusOP•9/6/23, 4:50 PM

really dumb question... how large are these images? Like I'm looking at one of the images on github and for the life of me it doesn't show a filesize.

WWaffleophagus really dumb question... how large are these images? Like I'm looking at one of t...

bsherman•9/6/23, 4:52 PM

total size is around 6GB depending which variant and nvidia or no

bsherman•9/6/23, 4:52 PM

you can just podman pullpodman pull an image to see

WaffleophagusOP•9/6/23, 4:52 PM

ah, larger than I thought.

WaffleophagusOP•9/6/23, 4:52 PM

Not huge though.

bsherman•9/6/23, 4:53 PM

and really most of the work I do for ublue involves locally running podman build Containerfilepodman build Containerfile from our various repos with different build args

bsherman•9/6/23, 4:53 PM

usually only the github workflows themselves need to be in github for testing

WaffleophagusOP•9/6/23, 4:55 PM

at ~6gb, to replicate github's 90 day retention, that's about a half a TB per image

WaffleophagusOP•9/6/23, 4:55 PM

ouch

WaffleophagusOP•9/6/23, 4:55 PM

I'd probably cut back a bit

WaffleophagusOP•9/6/23, 4:57 PM

one of the things I've been thinking of doing, which is really dumb, is to do a local cached repo for dnf, then once you have that, in theory you could build N images on the fly from from it, but that sounds like hyper-overkill

bsherman•9/6/23, 4:58 PM

I am spoiled with fast internet now, and i've already considered caching container registries and DNF repos, etc...

but I may be moving somewhere with much restricted internet... if so, it'll be imperative to figure that out

j0rge•9/6/23, 5:01 PM

transparent inhouse registry would be dope, I filed an issue for that in the website repo.

WaffleophagusOP•9/6/23, 5:01 PM

but yea, baby steps, for now Imma test forge

WaffleophagusOP•9/6/23, 5:01 PM

if not tonight, then maybe this weekend

WaffleophagusOP•9/6/23, 5:04 PM

my setup at home is unraid, and it has some oddities when it comes to docker, you wanna know going in its templated for unraid

WaffleophagusOP•9/6/23, 5:04 PM

so I'll just setup a ucore VM

WaffleophagusOP•9/6/23, 5:04 PM

to remove that from the oddities

WaffleophagusOP•9/6/23, 5:04 PM

if I get it setup there, maybe I can tweak it a bit to template it for unraid

Bbsherman yea, i'd like to build locally too... i'd kinda like to get the workflows setup ...

akdev•9/6/23, 5:34 PM

If you want that the best is to avoid github actions and just scripts

Aakdev If you want that the best is to avoid github actions and just scripts

bsherman•9/6/23, 5:35 PM

that's not opinionated at all

akdev•9/6/23, 5:35 PM

eg: buildah action is really just buildah budbuildah bud, so you can put that in a script and then call ./build.sh./build.sh

bsherman•9/6/23, 5:35 PM

i like the workflows, seems nice to use them in both places

bsherman•9/6/23, 5:35 PM

git and gitea

akdev•9/6/23, 5:35 PM

For github actions or gitea or gitlab, etc

akdev•9/6/23, 5:36 PM

Gitea will never be 100% compatible with github actions

bsherman•9/6/23, 5:37 PM

obviously i agree one can more quickly make a script to do it, but you might be surprised how far act and act_runner have come.

akdev•9/6/23, 5:38 PM

chasing the subset of stuff supported by gitea and github actions seems like a loosing battle full of "it works on GH but not here"

akdev•9/6/23, 5:38 PM

Specially as you import third party actions that will very likely not support gitea actions

akdev•9/6/23, 5:44 PM

And 1:1 compatibility seems like a non-goal:

However, we recommend using gitea.xyz in case Gitea adds something that GitHub does not have to avoid different kinds of secrets in your workflow file (and because you are using this workflow on Gitea, not GitHub). Still, this is completely optional since both options have the same effect at the moment.

WWaffleophagus Honestly if Forge does what it advertises (and if it doesn't, I bet its way furt...

xyny•9/6/23, 6:25 PM

could be possible to write a localbuild.sh script or smth for startingpoint in the future, since a barebones build.yml is actually pretty simple if you strip adding the container metadata labels and stuff. the only thing i don't know anything about is rebasing to local images.

xyny•9/6/23, 6:25 PM

thought that's obviously way less comprehensive than forge or gitea

akdev•9/6/23, 6:26 PM

It just needs a single podman/buildah command to build

akdev•9/6/23, 6:26 PM

Then rebasing to a local container and then there's nothing special that needs to happen

akdev•9/6/23, 6:26 PM

I'm running on a local image for about a week

akdev•9/6/23, 6:27 PM

It requires around 3x the disk space as the image is stored in multiple places during the process

WaffleophagusOP•9/6/23, 6:37 PM

honestly

Honestly if Forge does what it advertises (and if it doesn't, I bet its way further along than me st

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