Cloudflare Developers•3y ago

Deff want to add support for more languages in the future, yes 🙂 How much time does your project ta

Deff want to add support for more languages in the future, yes

How much time does your project take cached vs non-cached? (eg. when rebuilding locally)

JJacob Deff want to add support for more languages in the future, yes 🙂 How much time ...

josh•9/14/23, 11:40 PM

latest build is 2m 26s uncached at Cloudflare, 49s cached at Netlify

josh•9/14/23, 11:41 PM

this is a middleman site (quite similar to jekyll, should use the same ruby/node caching approach)

JacobOP•9/15/23, 12:25 AM

Thanks!

itsmatteomanf•9/19/23, 12:12 PM

@Jacob did you think about the build cache not being invalidated on dependecy updates?

Iitsmatteomanf <@85379843826413568> did you think about the build cache not being invalidated o...

JacobOP•9/20/23, 4:50 AM

A bit but nothing planned yet. This first iteration is intended to be very safe for most projects, at the cost of a few more cache misses. How often do you change your dependencies?

JacobOP•9/20/23, 4:52 AM

What would you prefer as the cache key?

JJacob A bit but nothing planned yet. This first iteration is intended to be very safe ...

itsmatteomanf•9/20/23, 7:43 AM

It’s not the changing of dependencies (it happens often now as I am building the website, but will most likely lower), but the updates. Astro releases an update a week, add other packages and it’s very often.

JJacob What would you prefer as the cache key?

itsmatteomanf•9/20/23, 7:45 AM

Do we need a cache key for the output cache? I get dependencies, might make sense, although I am not sure what Netlify does, for example… but the cache output is handled by each package.

Iitsmatteomanf Do we need a cache key for the output cache? I get dependencies, might make sens...

JacobOP•9/20/23, 1:52 PM

What if you have a different branch with vastly different settings? Maybe we could use the branch as a cache key instead? What if you change frameworks? (I guess we could rely on you hitting the Clear Cache button for that?)

JacobOP•9/20/23, 1:56 PM

We were trying to avoid users having to hit Clear Cache and having things just work.

JacobOP•9/20/23, 1:56 PM

But we weren't thinking about users updating deps every week

JJacob What if you have a different branch with vastly different settings? Maybe we cou...

itsmatteomanf•9/20/23, 3:17 PM

Oh, yeah. Branches for sure, I wasn’t gonna even mention that.

itsmatteomanf•9/20/23, 3:18 PM

Most frameworks tend to have their own cache folder, so it wouldn’t be a big issue…

Iitsmatteomanf Most frameworks tend to have their own cache folder, so it wouldn’t be a big iss...

JacobOP•9/20/23, 3:24 PM

I wonder what would be a good way to surface that "hey you should probably clear your cache once in a while if you make big changes." Like I'd hate to be downloading/uploading 300MB of extra junk that's no longer used on every build

JJacob I wonder what would be a good way to surface that "hey you should probably clear...

itsmatteomanf•9/20/23, 3:25 PM

Maybe some sort of diff in the package.json? If it changes too much give a nudge? I don’t know…

JacobOP•9/20/23, 3:27 PM

I want to add more config later - cache keys will probably be part of that. The current "play it super safe" approach will unfortunately come with some increased cache misses

JacobOP•9/20/23, 3:27 PM

The hope is that it will still save users some build time if they build a lot. We can improve more edge cases in the future

JJacob The hope is that it will still save users some build time if they build a lot. W...

itsmatteomanf•9/20/23, 7:25 PM

JacobOP•9/26/23, 8:40 PM

Heya! We released a few bug fixes & performance improvements. lmk if y'all see any issues!

JJacob Heya! We released a few bug fixes & performance improvements. lmk if y'all see a...

PlaidShaman•9/26/23, 10:19 PM

Hi Jacob! Does this work with next-on-pagesnext-on-pages?

PPlaidShaman Hi Jacob! Does this work with `next-on-pages`?

JacobOP•9/26/23, 10:25 PM

Yes! Next is supported

PlaidShaman•9/26/23, 10:26 PM

Amazing

PlaidShaman•9/26/23, 10:27 PM

I’d love to sign up for the beta. I looked at the stickied pins, but didn’t see anything to point me in the right direction.

Is there another place I could look?

PPlaidShaman I’d love to sign up for the beta. I looked at the stickied pins, but didn’t see ...

JacobOP•9/26/23, 10:28 PM

Just pinned the message that has the form

PlaidShaman•9/26/23, 10:28 PM

Samaritan•9/27/23, 2:44 AM

Super keen to be involved, have just filled in the form

bigansh•9/27/23, 7:40 AM

how can i get started with build caching?

Bbigansh how can i get started with build caching?

Cyb3r-Jak3•9/27/23, 11:44 AM

Can fill out the form on build-caching-beta

CCyb3r-Jak3 Can fill out the form on https://discord.com/channels/595317990191398933/1144554...

bigansh•9/27/23, 12:26 PM

done

JacobOP•9/27/23, 6:06 PM

Heya! Y'all should have access to it now

You can enable it in project settings -> Builds & deployments -> Build caching

JJacob Heya! Y'all should have access to it now 🙂 You can enable it in project setting...

bigansh•9/27/23, 8:29 PM

awesome. thank you

JacobOP•9/28/23, 1:24 PM

It's live! https://blog.cloudflare.com/race-ahead-with-build-caching/

The Cloudflare Blog

Race ahead with Cloudflare Pages build caching

Unleash the fast & furious in your builds with Cloudflare Pages' build caching. Build cache is a feature designed to reduce your build times by caching and reusing previously computed project components. Now in Beta for select frameworks and package managers.