Any tips of how to wire the grip board ? There are 6pins on the grip board and 5 on the main board -

Any tips of how to wire the grip board ? There are 6pins on the grip board and 5 on the main board - which pin do I not wire up

Simon2012•9/21/23, 2:40 PM

So I did a quick test after attaching the base, firmware up-to-date, calibration done, nothing else modified.
FFB activated in DCS, power on (big red know on).
20 cm extension and TM F-18 grip.
And I'm like : where is my force feedback ?

The forces are so light, it feels like my old base (Virpil T-50CM2) with the lightest springs and tension tuned to the minimum...
Turned the black knob all the way to the right, it's slightly better but so so light compared to any real plane I ever flew (from small to big ones, props and jets).

So what did I miss ?

I tested with the Spitfire, Tomcat, Mirage F1, Harrier.
The Spit and the Tomcat are nice, but the forces are too light, and not increasing/decreasing with an increase/decrease of speed (the stick should become stiffer the faster you go and should become more "sluggish" when you slow down)

VVirus I think i solved it...I had to unscrew the little spacer below the base of the a...

�

𝔐𝔬𝔯𝔭𝔥𝔦𝔫𝔢 💀•9/21/23, 2:43 PM

Great! Is it also recognizing the grip now?

BBoeing757sim Any tips of how to wire the grip board ? There are 6pins on the grip board and 5...

Subsonic•9/21/23, 2:48 PM

SSimon2012 So I did a quick test after attaching the base, firmware up-to-date, calibration...

�

𝔐𝔬𝔯𝔭𝔥𝔦𝔫𝔢 💀•9/21/23, 2:48 PM

Try some of the other profiles 📙knowledge-baseRhino Profile Sharing (though you probably have to recalibrate for your stick) . Primarily you need to increase Friction, Inertia, and Damper to get a heavier feeling. Feel free to experiment.

Boeing757simOP•9/21/23, 2:52 PM

@subsonic1748 Thanks a lot

SSimon2012 So I did a quick test after attaching the base, firmware up-to-date, calibration...

Number481•9/21/23, 2:53 PM

post screenshots of your configurator settings (both settings and effects tabs)

BBoeing757sim @subsonic1748 Thanks a lot

Subsonic•9/21/23, 3:01 PM

@walmis maybe pin the diagram in support sir?

NNumber481 post screenshots of your configurator settings (both settings and effects tabs)

Simon2012•9/21/23, 3:03 PM

I'm not in front of the computer right now, but I did not modify anything there, so it's the "factory settings"

�𝔐𝔬𝔯𝔭𝔥𝔦𝔫𝔢 💀Try some of the other profiles https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1...

Simon2012•9/21/23, 3:03 PM

I'll have a look, thanks

SSimon2012 I'll have a look, thanks

walmis•9/21/23, 3:55 PM

By my calculations, you should get ~2.2kg of force at max with a 40cm lever (15cm Rhino + 20cm ext + grip) . Formula: F_kg = 0.9 / lever in metersFormula: F_kg = 0.9 / lever in meters
You can stiffen up the the spring by reducing the throw range by using "axis scaling" feature or using spring mapping tool.

MashedPotato•9/21/23, 4:12 PM

updated firmware and software, set grip to the realsimulator 64 button, still not seeing the hat presses light up in the vpforce software

�𝔐𝔬𝔯𝔭𝔥𝔦𝔫𝔢 💀Great! Is it also recognizing the grip now?

Virus•9/21/23, 4:27 PM

It was not easy as to plug it in...but now it works

MMashedPotato updated firmware and software, set grip to the realsimulator 64 button, still no...

walmis•9/21/23, 4:50 PM

Interesting, will have to double check.

Wwalmis Interesting, will have to double check.

MashedPotato•9/21/23, 4:59 PM

might have something to do with how RS sends those inputs to windows. They come off a second virtual device

walmis•9/21/23, 5:02 PM

But if the presses were visible with the debug grip profile, it should work. Can you recheck the debug grip profile which bytes change on button presses?

MashedPotato•9/21/23, 5:02 PM

yeah, one sec

MashedPotato•9/21/23, 5:06 PM

[11:05:48.706] FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FB 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[11:05:48.908] FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[11:05:49.109] FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[11:05:49.309] FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[11:05:49.511] FF FF FF FF FF FF FF F7 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[11:05:49.712] FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[11:05:49.912] FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[11:05:50.114] FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[11:05:50.315] FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[11:05:50.516] FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[11:05:50.717] FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[11:05:50.917] FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FD 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

MashedPotato•9/21/23, 5:06 PM

The FB, F7, and FD are the 3 hats

MashedPotato•9/21/23, 5:06 PM

in debug, the grip constantly sends the FF, not sure if that's just the poll rate, or what

harry•9/21/23, 5:07 PM

hi @walmis , i am still loosing ffb. But at least sometimes it seems to be only the spring force while the others are still ok. Do you have further Ideas?

blave549•9/21/23, 5:21 PM

I have been experiencing something that seems to be specific to the aircraft that I'm using (Cowansim MD500E). TelemFFB throws exceptions pretty much every time I fly, and it seems to happen whenever TelemFFB attempts to generate an effect. It does not do this with the Cabri G2, which works fine. Here's the log... I'm assuming I need to add something to the config.user.ini but I don't know what.

MD500E_TelemFFB_log.txt3.95KB

Number481•9/21/23, 5:29 PM

@_blave could be any number of things that aren't implemented properly in that aircraft, or in a way that TelemFFB isn't expecting (or a legit TelemFFB bug...)

But at the very least you should add the aircraft to your config as a helicopter:

[500E.*]
type=Helicopter

[500E.*]
type=Helicopter

Boeing757simOP•9/21/23, 5:32 PM

@walmis Could have the wiring diagram for the 32 input Shift register to “Main Board” - I used the diagram given by @subsonic1748 but no joy.

walmis•9/21/23, 5:34 PM

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/968208779084701716/1100261691394109440/image.png

Boeing757simOP•9/21/23, 5:43 PM

Woops have to rewire, thanks

BBoeing757sim Woops have to rewire, thanks

Subsonic•9/21/23, 7:39 PM

ahhh sorry, missed that you were using the shift reg

Boeing757simOP•9/21/23, 7:56 PM

@subsonic1748 no probs buddy, just a quick swap of the pins and got it working

SSubsonic Click to see attachment

Comrade_Weng•9/21/23, 10:55 PM

What's the purpose of the 7pin Aux switch connector out of interest?

CComrade_Weng What's the purpose of the 7pin Aux switch connector out of interest?

Subsonic•9/21/23, 10:59 PM

Not sure, @walmis can answer that one

NNumber481 @_blave could be any number of things that aren't implemented properly in that a...

blave549•9/21/23, 11:09 PM

Thank you November Four Eight One. I'll give that a go!

blave549•9/21/23, 11:39 PM

OK, that worked. I added this to the user config file:

[500E.*]
type=Helicopter
runway_rumble_intensity = 0.5
rotor_blade_count=5
etl_start_speed = 15
etl_stop_speed = 24
etl_effect_intensity = 0.25
overspeed_shake_start = 60
overspeed_shake_intensity = 0.2

I googled "translational lift" and more than one source says that it starts between 16 and 24 knots, so I upped the entry speed. I cannot find a reference as to when the vibration goes away. But what I did notice is that the 500E's vibration is of a higher frequency than the Cabri, which is as it should be (5 vs. 3 blades). Nice work, 481.

Bblave549 OK, that worked. I added this to the user config file: [500E.*] type=Helicopter...

Number481•9/21/23, 11:49 PM

sweet... keep in mind those speeds in the config are in meterts/second. So rougly cut the knot values in half (.514) to be exact. So that would be 8 to 12 m/s.

Or (I think walmis added this).. you can say 15kt and 24kt and it will be auto-converted at runtime

CComrade_Weng What's the purpose of the 7pin Aux switch connector out of interest?

walmis•9/22/23, 6:41 AM

Currently reserved for future use, probably will be for extra buttons/switches

amadeus•9/22/23, 6:42 AM

Walmis with the private APIs

Havebug•9/22/23, 8:00 AM

I was trying to figure out what is this, and what is the aim of this feature...

walmis•9/22/23, 9:04 AM

to adjust these programatically, i.e. from TelemFFB config.ini

Simon2012•9/22/23, 2:46 PM

So, anybody using a 20 cm extension that would be willing to share his settings ?
Thanks

Mustang 1-1•9/22/23, 3:05 PM

Does anyone know if p3d would support simple stall stick shakers and g force load increase, along with xplane? It may not be tested but my rhino has just shipped so I can test, but just waning to know!

Mustang 1-1•9/22/23, 3:06 PM

P3d has sim connect so I think it would work

Number481•9/22/23, 3:07 PM

xplane has no native FFB at all, and the Telemetry software doesnt support it yet (will require a complete new effects module similar to the one for MSFS).
P3D is a fork of old FS and thus has simconnect support, but it is so ancient I don't know if it will work with pysimconnect (which is the underlying simconnect support that TelemFFB uses)

Mustang 1-1•9/22/23, 3:10 PM

Ag. My brunner works nice with xplane. Well, thanks.

Mustang 1-1•9/22/23, 3:10 PM

Brunner works best with xplane.

Mustang 1-1•9/22/23, 3:10 PM

But the rhino is way different

MMustang 1-1 Brunner works best with xplane.

walmis•9/22/23, 3:11 PM

I guess that's with the Brunner's telemetry software?

Mustang 1-1•9/22/23, 3:13 PM

Yeah. You don’t even need hardware trim. Xplane automatically sends the data to brunner. If you are interested with anything brunner, ask me. I have their pedals and stick. If you even want to test it I can help with that.

Mustang 1-1•9/22/23, 3:13 PM

As I am moving to rhino now.

MMustang 1-1 Yeah. You don’t even need hardware trim. Xplane automatically sends the data to ...

Number481•9/22/23, 5:13 PM

am I correct in my understanding that for X-Plane it requires you to edit each aircraft to change the trim behavior so that it works properly (software trim method)?

Mustang 1-1•9/22/23, 5:17 PM

Yes. It sucks but in the end it’s really nice, and realistic.

ToreDL87•9/22/23, 6:16 PM

Just got my Rhino today, reading the readme and trying to get things working, first order of business seems to be an error when trying to run TelemFFB?
Currently running Windows 10 (latest version).

Number481•9/22/23, 6:30 PM

what do you see here when you look at the configurator?

Any tips of how to wire the grip board ? There are 6pins on the grip board and 5 on the main board -

Similar Threads