As you can see, it's a pretty tight space, but I think I can make it work - my question is this - wh

As you can see, it's a pretty tight space, but I think I can make it work - my question is this - what's the lead time on the motor & controller kits?

Ff15sim As you can see, it's a pretty tight space, but I think I can make it work - my q...

MashedPotato•9/21/23, 10:41 PM

couple days usually

f15simOP•9/21/23, 11:39 PM

Ok cool, thanks.

Ff15sim A friend of mine pointed me at this project - he thinks it would be a good optio...

Comrade_Weng•9/22/23, 9:27 AM

I'm trying to work out what aerostructure this is? Can you enlighten me please. I can see piano hinge at the top

VPforceBot•9/22/23, 9:41 AM

:package:

RHINO #0201 Has Shipped!

CComrade_Weng I'm trying to work out what aerostructure this is? Can you enlighten me please. ...

Right Rudder - Left Stick•9/22/23, 1:35 PM

I believe its the underside of an F-15C nose section, right below the stick yoke

Mustang 1-1•9/22/23, 1:46 PM

Yep, F-15

RRight Rudder - Left Stick I believe its the underside of an F-15C nose section, right below the stick yoke

f15simOP•9/22/23, 1:46 PM

Well not RIGHT below, it's offset to the left (as you face forward).

Mustang 1-1•9/22/23, 1:46 PM

He has a YouTube about it, it’s pretty neat

f15simOP•9/22/23, 1:47 PM

thanks!

Mustang 1-1•9/22/23, 1:47 PM

Thanks! I love seeing all the real cockpit parts!

f15simOP•9/22/23, 1:47 PM

I need to get the damn thing done.

f15simOP•9/22/23, 1:48 PM

but...squirrel!

f15simOP•9/22/23, 1:50 PM

I have a CNC machine build i need to finish first in order to fab the parts required to add the VPforce hardware.

f15simOP•9/22/23, 1:50 PM

What sim software does the controller interface with? Just Windows FFB, or can you control it directly via an api?

Mustang 1-1•9/22/23, 1:54 PM

Windows 10. It basically just plugs into usb and has its own software

Mustang 1-1•9/22/23, 1:55 PM

An program thingy

f15simOP•9/22/23, 1:55 PM

So basically whatever is the sucesssor to DirectPlay?

f15simOP•9/22/23, 1:55 PM

One of the things I need to be able to do is increase the stick loading by about 2lbs per G.

Mustang 1-1•9/22/23, 1:56 PM

Yes. It uses direct x ffb and I know it works with dcs but I would use it in p3d and other commercial sims. It has sim connect so we think it works. I’ll be the first to test in p3d

Ff15sim One of the things I need to be able to do is increase the stick loading by about...

Mustang 1-1•9/22/23, 1:56 PM

Yeah you will need some big motors for that

Mustang 1-1•9/22/23, 1:56 PM

What’s the overall force at 9g max after?

f15simOP•9/22/23, 1:56 PM

I don't know off the top of my head, sorry.

Mustang 1-1•9/22/23, 1:57 PM

Np. Let me say you will need a lot of welding and diy, but a turnkey solution is the cls-p brunner. It does about 50, and even more with dd motors. It costs 11k though.

Mustang 1-1•9/22/23, 1:57 PM

The vp doesn’t have that much, it has some good force though.

f15simOP•9/22/23, 2:00 PM

I may be able to get there with NEMA34 motors and gearing.

Mustang 1-1•9/22/23, 2:02 PM

Yeah, the powerful motors will destroy a gimbal system. You need to WELD it all, as much as possible

f15simOP•9/22/23, 2:04 PM

The motor would break ME long before it put a dent in the roll & pitch hardware in that cockpit.

MMustang 1-1 Windows 10. It basically just plugs into usb and has its own software

Fierce_Fire•9/22/23, 2:04 PM

Does it have win 11 support? That was added in a recent patch right?

Mustang 1-1•9/22/23, 2:06 PM

Yes

MMustang 1-1 He has a YouTube about it, it’s pretty neat

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𝔐𝔬𝔯𝔭𝔥𝔦𝔫𝔢 💀•9/22/23, 2:14 PM

link?

f15simOP•9/22/23, 2:14 PM

https://www.youtube.com/f15sim

YouTube

f15sim

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𝔐𝔬𝔯𝔭𝔥𝔦𝔫𝔢 💀•9/22/23, 2:15 PM

nice!

f15simOP•9/22/23, 2:21 PM

Thanks!

VPforceBot•9/22/23, 3:32 PM

:package:

RHINO #0202 Has Shipped!

Stoned Kakapo•9/22/23, 8:28 PM

God damn!!! We're at 202 already. Super fast. Congrats to all those that have gotten their rhino or in the cusp of. You're a one man production army Walmis!

f15simOP•9/22/23, 9:01 PM

Just put an order request in for the DIY kit.

f15simOP•9/22/23, 9:01 PM

I got to thinking that If I fab a pair of bellcranks, I can put the stepper motors on a mounting plate fitted to one of the avionics bays right under the left side console.

Ff15sim I got to thinking that If I fab a pair of bellcranks, I can put the stepper moto...

mechsicko•9/22/23, 9:51 PM

Small correction: servo motors not steppers.

f15simOP•9/22/23, 9:57 PM

Steppers with feedback loops.

f15simOP•9/22/23, 9:57 PM

to me, servos are brushless things.

mechsicko•9/22/23, 10:28 PM

they are not only brushless dc servos they also have anti cogging profiles flashed on their custom integrated drive boards. Rhino is the real deal

f15simOP•9/22/23, 10:43 PM

I understand that - however, if they cog, they're not a brushless motor.

f15simOP•9/22/23, 10:44 PM

yes, it's another type of servo, but not what I would traditionally consider one. I'm used to brushless servos on CNC machines and in flight simulators.

ToreDL87•9/23/23, 4:52 AM

Received my Rhino today, #188.
Minus a wicked shimmy for a USB hub (my fault) and IL-2 controller interface (1C's fault) being far less than ideal, thanks to hands-on expertise by @walmis & @_gunzablazin I was able to get it up and running.
No pics because the 3 pieces of 3x8" I stacked up for a stand just does not do the Rhino justice (I expected another 3 months waiting time), but was able to do 12hrs worth of testing and breaking in flights at the IL-2 Flying Circus Flugpark server.

Not sure what I can say that other Rhino owners haven't said already.
Obviously the cogging I'm so used to with the old MSFFB2 and budget racing wheels just.. isn't there.
The stall & buffetting queue's are more like "next game" rather than "next level", they are specific to either side, and don't happen too late (which is the case with the MSFFB2), a.k.a a godsent in knife-edge fights: You can instantly correct the stall without missing a beat on your opponent.
Add to that, it easily has the smoothness and precision of a VKB/Virpil/Winwing, and them some, with more available throw, which aids in aerial gunnery.
And I haven't gotten around to fiddling with the adjustability of FFB sines/squares & endstops (throw), etc, adding a whole layer of (voluntary) complexity.

My hat is off to you walmis

Ff15sim Steppers with feedback loops. 😉

walmis•9/23/23, 9:47 AM

These motors are actually 3-phase brushless in a NEMA casing, so many people confuse these as steppers

Kreytfire•9/23/23, 10:39 AM

I tried out the TelemFFB yesterday and even I was already happy with the normal FFB delivered by DCS for the F14 and the stick forces (spring, damper, inertia) - I was blown away by what happened after installing the Telem!

Feeling the G forces and the engine, the VRS of the helicopters and so on and so on…. Last night I ended up flying warbirds, all kind of helos and jets till the sunrise just to explore this new world!
@walmis you Sir are a master and I am happy I ordered your Rhino, thank you!

KKreytfire I tried out the TelemFFB yesterday and even I was already happy with the normal ...

Simon2012•9/23/23, 11:12 AM

Would you mind sharing your settings ? Do you have an extension ?
I'm running a 20 cm extension, and I can't get anything satisfactory so far, it's always way too light

SSimon2012 Would you mind sharing your settings ? Do you have an extension ? I'm running a ...

walmis•9/23/23, 11:15 AM

Can you screenshot your settings?

Wwalmis Can you screenshot your settings?

Simon2012•9/23/23, 12:45 PM

Not at home for the next 10ish days, I'll do that when I'm back

Simon2012•9/23/23, 12:46 PM

But it's essentially the "regular" settings, with spring and inertia activated + spring gains adjusted as in the screenshot you posted above

As you can see, it's a pretty tight space, but I think I can make it work - my question is this - wh

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