i managed to mess up bazzite a few times (kinda) on my laptop but thats more thanks to the uefi on t

i managed to mess up bazzite a few times (kinda) on my laptop but thats more thanks to the uefi on the laptop being weird with linux in general

bazzite was the first ever linux i had to enable secure boot for to even have it boot (it booted fine until i signed the image)

had to literally enable secure boot --> install bazzite --> sign image --> import keys --> everything works

without secure boot on my laptop would just boot into a black screen after signing the system

HHikariKnight i managed to mess up bazzite a few times (kinda) on my laptop but thats more tha...

Mentallydeactivated•9/23/23, 11:36 PM

I had a similar experience when I used to be on Windows and I was trying to enable virtualization.

Jj0rge (I don't mean to scare you lol) -- it's just that with most distros you break yo...

Mentallydeactivated•9/23/23, 11:37 PM

By the way. If you think about it. This information should scare people. I need the awareness of these potential risks so I don't do anything stupid to my computer. If I'm not scared, I'll risk breaking my computer.

j0rge•9/23/23, 11:38 PM

yeah unfortunately this is considered "normal" with most distros

j0rge•9/23/23, 11:38 PM

like, if it breaks, it's your fault.

j0rge•9/23/23, 11:38 PM

that's silly

j0rge•9/23/23, 11:39 PM

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j0rge•9/23/23, 11:39 PM

here, I remember I talked about this before

Mentallydeactivated•9/23/23, 11:40 PM

How is that silly? That's how it should be. That way the computer expert can blame me if I actually did something stupid to my computer.

j0rge•9/23/23, 11:40 PM

installing software and doing upgrades shouldn't break your PC

MMentallydeactivated How is that silly? That's how it should be. That way the computer expert can bla...

HikariKnightOP•9/23/23, 11:41 PM

its like saying "you ran windows update, why would you update your OS? its your fault it broke from a broken update"

j0rge•9/23/23, 11:41 PM

like, if you're going to break your PC at least do something epic, breaking it because of some crappy third party package or doing a dist-upgrade is weak sauce

Jj0rge installing software and doing upgrades shouldn't break your PC

Mentallydeactivated•9/23/23, 11:41 PM

Windows modified dll files

j0rge•9/23/23, 11:42 PM

I'm talking about linux, we don't make uwin (yet), heh

Jj0rge I'm talking about linux, we don't make uwin (yet), heh

Mentallydeactivated•9/23/23, 11:42 PM

But it's related

Jj0rge like, if you're going to break your PC at least do something epic, breaking it b...

HikariKnightOP•9/23/23, 11:43 PM

i accidentally used DD to clone 1 disk over my running system disk, was kinda spectacular that i got away without any data loss (thank you backups) and watch GNOME slowly die i went like "huh this dd is taking longer than usual" followed by immediate black screen with the blinking prompt

whoops

j0rge•9/23/23, 11:44 PM

yeah when the prompt doesn't return right away ... "uh oh"

Mentallydeactivated•9/23/23, 11:44 PM

Because last time I was on Windows I had this fucking annoying ddl error for video content that wouldn't go away. it was effecting all of my MakeMV burned videos. I would try to play one then Windows would say it can't fine. I check the folder they are clearly there.

Mentallydeactivated•9/23/23, 11:44 PM

Turned out for some odd reason Plex was the cuplrit for modifying that necessary ddl file.

Mentallydeactivated•9/23/23, 11:45 PM

I didn't really know what those were so I watched a Linus tech Tips video on it

Jj0rge yeah when the prompt doesn't return right away ... "uh oh"

HikariKnightOP•9/23/23, 11:45 PM

pretty much, i lost maybe 2 hours of data which was like what, 3 notes and 1 hour of gameplay in a game?

Mentallydeactivated•9/23/23, 11:45 PM

So installing software even if it's legit can break your computer.

MMentallydeactivated Turned out for some odd reason Plex was the cuplrit for modifying that necessary...

j0rge•9/23/23, 11:46 PM

right so in this world plex can't do that

Jj0rge right so in this world plex can't do that

Mentallydeactivated•9/23/23, 11:47 PM

Good. That's why I switched to Linux.

Mentallydeactivated•9/23/23, 11:48 PM

But one day I will need to get a virtual machine for Windows utilities. Which fucking sucks

j0rge•9/23/23, 11:48 PM

well, the deb/rpm of plex can totally do that

j0rge•9/23/23, 11:48 PM

which is why we run everything in containers instead

MMentallydeactivated So installing software even if it's legit can break your computer.

HikariKnightOP•9/23/23, 11:48 PM

i can give you a good example
runescape had a new native linux client
they didnt update it for years, so long so that installing it required you to install an old library from ubuntu 16.04 which had security issues. this gave rise to the community run flatpak version just so that people would not install a library that could break a future system update or crash other applications if they found the old library version on a newer system.

Jj0rge which is why we run everything in containers instead

Mentallydeactivated•9/23/23, 11:49 PM

I want to get into docker as well, I had installed on Linux Mint. But I didn't even get a chance to fully use it. and then I lost that one too after i installed Bazzite OS.

Mentallydeactivated•9/23/23, 11:49 PM

I lost a lot and I've just been biding my time.

HHikariKnight i can give you a good example runescape had a new native linux client they didnt...

Mentallydeactivated•9/23/23, 11:50 PM

Damn! what morons

HikariKnightOP•9/23/23, 11:51 PM

yep

HikariKnightOP•9/23/23, 11:52 PM

idk what the current situation is but i know they updated the package a few years back now, but people already moved to the flatpak before i quit the game anyway

HikariKnightOP•9/23/23, 11:53 PM

i knew most of the people working on the flatpak anyway as they were old contributers to the linux version of the java based client (essentially a launcher with linux specific fixes to the official java client)

HikariKnightOP•9/23/23, 11:54 PM

so i knew i could put my trust and support behind the flatpak when people were like "idk if i can trust it"

Mentallydeactivated•9/23/23, 11:54 PM

The flatpack is amazing! I love how everything is free!

Mentallydeactivated•9/23/23, 11:54 PM

Bye bye Windows store and your 99 cent apps

HikariKnightOP•9/23/23, 11:55 PM

i try to support one way or another for the free apps if i can

Mentallydeactivated•9/23/23, 11:56 PM

The Linux Foundation recieves lots of donations. They could just pay app developers for the flatpack.

MMentallydeactivated I want to get into docker as well, I had installed on Linux Mint. But I didn't e...

dnkmmr•9/24/23, 12:00 AM

I find podman better

Ddnkmmr I find podman better

HikariKnightOP•9/24/23, 12:08 AM

i use podman on all my newer systems, main system is still using docker as some of my stuff got angry migrating to podman and i decided ehh i will sort it out when i do a reinstall in a few yearsehh i will sort it out when i do a reinstall in a few years as i have done some quite no no system changes on my main system

so next time i blow up my main system i will reinstall and move that to podman

RevReign•9/24/23, 12:35 AM

Hi, does Bazzite support multiple drives? I have 1 NVME for the OS and 2 SSDs for storage. Wanna make sure I can actually mount them all and have them in steam as storage options.