Hey! I'm using an IntersectionObserver to play and pause videos in a website and I noticed some very

Hey! I'm using an IntersectionObserver to play and pause videos in a website and I noticed some very slow loading times when 3-4 videos are triggered in a short amount of time. Is it linked to R2? Does it has limitations, download speed or concurrent download caps? I see pending requests in the network tab for the additionally loaded videos.

Lucas Willems•10/30/23, 2:15 PM

Hi, I have 2 questions:

Is there a free tier for Cache Reserve?
I've used 10 writes and 100 reads, but I am paying 4.5$ + 0.36$ = 4.86$. Why??

Fflayks Hey! I'm using an IntersectionObserver to play and pause videos in a website and...

Sid•10/30/23, 2:19 PM

We don’t intentionally slow downloads down and there is no cap. Are you noticing the TTFB being really long then?
Have you tried configuring the CF Cache on your domain? That would be the easiest way to improve things.

LLucas Willems Hi, I have 2 questions: 1. Is there a free tier for Cache Reserve? 2. I've use...

Sid•10/30/23, 2:21 PM

CR does not have a free tier
CR is priced based on tiers, not per-operation: https://www.cloudflare.com/products/cache-reserve/, which means that while you’re paying $4.86, you’ll pay the same if you made a million writes and 10 million reads

EErisa 😅 I *think* from reading about this internally there is most likely a per-IP ra...

digitalpoint•10/30/23, 3:12 PM

Sorry to dig this up... but running into this again with a different user now. They make 5 API calls (no others in the last 5 minutes) and they are met with the rate limit error (no other API tokens or API usage on their account). If Cloudflare has secondary API rate limits on certain IPs or IP blocks, maybe I need to build a Worker to proxy their API requests through? Doesn't feel like the "right" thing to do, but with this coming up with multiple users now just trying to figure out options...

SSid 1. CR does not have a free tier 2. CR is priced based on tiers, not per-operatio...

Lucas Willems•10/30/23, 3:22 PM

Thanks! And is R2 priced based on tiers?

LLucas Willems Thanks! And is R2 priced based on tiers?

digitalpoint•10/30/23, 3:24 PM

R2 pricing isn't tiered. It's:
$0.015 per GB after the first 10GB free
+
$4.50 per million class A operations (effectively writes) after the first 1 million free
+
$0.36 per million class B operations (effectively reads) after the first 10 million free

LLucas Willems Thanks! And is R2 priced based on tiers?

digitalpoint•10/30/23, 3:25 PM

You can find billing examples for R2 here: https://developers.cloudflare.com/r2/pricing/#r2-billing-examples

Pricing · Cloudflare R2 docs

R2 charges based on the total volume of data stored, along with two classes of operations on that data:

Lucas Willems•10/30/23, 3:27 PM

Thanks @digitalpoint ! Do you know the reason why it is tiered for Cache Reserve? It was kind of a bad suprise to see this as I didn't expect it

LLucas Willems Thanks @digitalpoint ! Do you know the reason why it is tiered for Cache Reserve...

digitalpoint•10/30/23, 3:27 PM

Because Cache Reserve is simply a different product that uses R2 on the backend.

SSid We don’t intentionally slow downloads down and there is no cap. Are you noticing...

flayksOP•10/30/23, 3:28 PM

Hm interesting, probably haven't setup cache if it's not by default. TTFB is fine on the site globally, it even happens locally

Ddigitalpoint Because Cache Reserve is simply a different product that uses R2 on the backend.

Lucas Willems•10/30/23, 3:28 PM

It is marketed as same pricing than R2, which is not true in fact

LLucas Willems It is marketed as same pricing than R2, which is not true in fact

Unsmart•10/30/23, 3:29 PM

Where is it marketed as the same pricing?

digitalpoint•10/30/23, 3:30 PM

I've never seen it marked as the same pricing. I've always seen it priced as $4.50 for the first 1M class A operations, so if you do 1 or 1,000,000, it's the same

digitalpoint•10/30/23, 3:30 PM

and I've never seen it described as having any free operations

Sam•10/30/23, 3:30 PM

I guess he's talking about this, looks like it's the same as R2

Sam•10/30/23, 3:31 PM

It's correct here tho https://developers.cloudflare.com/cache/advanced-configuration/cache-reserve/#cache-reserve-billing-examples

Unsmart•10/30/23, 3:31 PM

I assume someone copy pasted there haha will put in a note so hopefully they fix it fastnod

digitalpoint•10/30/23, 3:31 PM

Ya, definitely could be more clear there... not sure what a 10GB monthly quota means

Unsmart•10/30/23, 3:35 PM

At the very least when you actually purchase cache reserve it shows the correct pricing but hopefully that page gets fixed

SSid We don’t intentionally slow downloads down and there is no cap. Are you noticing...

flayksOP•10/30/23, 3:35 PM

I have cache headers from the request on a mp4 file:

Cache-Control: max-age=2678400
Cf-Cache-Status: HIT

https://assets.flayks.com/4thsex-screencast.mp4

UUnsmart Where is it marketed as the same pricing?

Lucas Willems•10/30/23, 4:52 PM

It is never explicitly said that the pricing is the same, but it is what it makes people understand. In the documentation, both pricing tables are the same. There is no mention of the tiered pricing. And everywhere it is said that Cache Reverse is just something on top of R2, meaning it is just R2 with some custom logic, which people won't expect to cost more.

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omar4289•10/30/23, 4:53 PM

You are welcome, let me know when you viewed it so I can drop the bucket

LLucas Willems It is never explicitly said that the pricing is the same, but it is what it make...

Unsmart•10/30/23, 5:23 PM

The cache reserve product page will be updated soontm

to not have the "Monthly Quotas" and for the documentation pricing I added an issue on github to move the information about the operations being rounded up to the next million from the examples to the table. https://github.com/cloudflare/cloudflare-docs/issues/11569