VPforce Controls•3y ago

Anyone out there who: - Has DIY pedals - Flies DCS Warbirds or Jets (or both!) - Is comfortable clon

Anyone out there who:

Has DIY pedals
Flies DCS Warbirds or Jets (or both!)
Is comfortable cloning and running TelemFFB from source
LMK if you are willing to do some beta testing

amadeus•11/11/23, 4:09 AM

What do you mean by diy pedals? Like diy ffb pedals?

Number481OP•11/11/23, 4:11 AM

yeah.. DIY'd with vpforce motor kit

NNumber481 ***Anyone** who flies the DCS AV-8B frequently.. Did Razbam fix the FFB trim? ...

TheZoq2•11/11/23, 10:45 AM

I haven't used it without telmeffb but the stick moves both with the trim and with the AFC on

Fulcrum•11/11/23, 2:47 PM

hey guys just found out about the Rhino FFB stick. looks good

Fulcrum•11/11/23, 2:47 PM

I owned the MS Sidewinder FFB for many years.

NNumber481 Anyone out there who: - Has DIY pedals - Flies DCS Warbirds or Jets (or both!) -...

MashedPotato•11/11/23, 5:16 PM

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Lassekongo•11/11/23, 5:52 PM

Does the vp rhino softwere get data like this irl chart for example from DCS to set damper,inertia and movement limits per module or is this something that would need to be self researched by the user ?

AndyHill•11/11/23, 5:56 PM

it's mostly up to the module makers and as you might expect, the quality varies a lot

AndyHill•11/11/23, 5:56 PM

don't expect anything too elaborate on the average

AndyHill•11/11/23, 5:56 PM

Then there's the TelemFFB thing where stuff like this could be added

AndyHill•11/11/23, 5:57 PM

The software on the Rhino (including the TelemFFB thing) is developing pretty fast

FFulcrum hey guys just found out about the Rhino FFB stick. looks good

Dr. No•11/11/23, 6:32 PM

It's so good you wont know until you try it. Imagine MS Sidewinder 2 FFB on steroids. It'll just about rip your arm off if you want with the sensitivity of so many more factors than even what these simulations provide in FFB ex IL2 only provides like 3 different FFB. This thing is insanely customizable. Look at all the different effects in the community config.ini that you can adjust and set. Its mind boggling once you get it. https://github.com/walmis/VPforce-TelemFFB/blob/wip/config.ini

GitHub

VPforce-TelemFFB/config.ini at wip · walmis/VPforce-TelemFFB

DCS FFB Telemetry Effects (for VPforce FFB). Contribute to walmis/VPforce-TelemFFB development by creating an account on GitHub.

LLassekongo Does the vp rhino softwere get data like this irl chart for example from DCS to ...

f14billy•11/11/23, 9:28 PM

@subsonic1748 I think DCS only sets the spring per module. Damper, inertia etc has to be done by the user.

Aiva•11/11/23, 9:47 PM

Would you recommend to use rhino with an 20cm extension, 10cm extension or no extension at all?

AndyHill•11/11/23, 9:50 PM

Mostly the extension should be whatever best suits your setup, but the longer your stick is, the more stress you put on the motors for lesser maximum strength

AndyHill•11/11/23, 9:51 PM

also do note that the rhino basically comes with a built-in extension and is very tall compared to most bases, so it's probably going to require less extending compared to whatever you've been using so far

AAiva Would you recommend to use rhino with an 20cm extension, 10cm extension or no e...

Fierce_Fire•11/11/23, 9:53 PM

https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/972180323787997255/1156159023649931274 a comparison with a more standard base

Fierce_Fire•11/11/23, 9:54 PM

note that the rotational axis is around the middle of the large pulley

AAiva Would you recommend to use rhino with an 20cm extension, 10cm extension or no e...

f14billy•11/11/23, 10:31 PM

With a 5cm extension I get a realistic Y axis throw distance. With a 70% limiter in the X axis it's great. Plenty of power too. If you use a longer extension you will also need to limit the throw angle.

AAndyHill Then there's the TelemFFB thing where stuff like this could be added

Lassekongo•11/11/23, 10:41 PM

Got it

Whats the diff between rhino softwere and telem ?

LLassekongo Got it 👍 Whats the diff between rhino softwere and telem ?

mechsicko•11/11/23, 10:49 PM

Rhino software for working with DirectInput native ff from game. Telemetry derives ff signals from craft telemetry so you can have ff where devs don’t specifically support it

LLassekongo Got it 👍 Whats the diff between rhino softwere and telem ?

f14billy•11/11/23, 11:25 PM

Basically to get the most of you Rhino you will use the configurator to customize your settings and telem to add more effects than what the game natively gives you.

IBW Additive•11/11/23, 11:32 PM

Is there a general location to see the step files for the vp rhino base?

IIBW Additive Is there a general location to see the step files for the vp rhino base?

A. Palmetto•11/11/23, 11:56 PM

https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1145651561578647582/1146654912097292408

Ff14billy @subsonic1748 I think DCS only sets the spring per module. Damper, inertia etc h...

amadeus•11/12/23, 2:27 AM

this isn't true -- games can set effects like damper/friction/periodic effects. It's just that most don't out of the box so we rely on telemffb

amadeus•11/12/23, 2:27 AM

the DCS F14 module for example does actually quite a good job out of the box, the only thing it really lacks is like engine vibrations and what not

FFulcrum hey guys just found out about the Rhino FFB stick. looks good

nz aviator•11/12/23, 3:10 AM

Yea this thing is a beast. Went from a msffb with the resistor mod (power doubles) with a modded stick grip to the rhino. I thought the rhino would be twice the power in reality its about 5-10 times better than the modded one I had and at most half a millimetre of play at the top of my grip I have on it. Tldr if you can afford one get it.

Number481OP•11/12/23, 4:10 PM

Since I know everyone doesn't immediately read every new post in every channel in this discord

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New build of TelemFFB with goodies for MSFS and DCS: https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1093558100713279508/1173264900324343909

MashedPotato•11/12/23, 4:26 PM

Solid work on that. Now us non-3D print/full DIY workshop folks just need Walmis to release that teased MFG conversion kit haha

Jarmak•11/12/23, 4:34 PM

Really want a TPR conversion kit

HPLsCat•11/12/23, 5:39 PM

I'm primarily DCS so not sure how much use the TPR mod would be, but I'd still jump on it

LastRonin•11/12/23, 10:30 PM

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AndyHill•11/12/23, 10:37 PM

someone check the bot if the number of rhinos ordered is now in five figures

CapnFlint•11/13/23, 2:06 AM

Have any of you tried the Rhino as a side stick for F16/Space games? Is it easy to switch configs between a shorter throw side stick and long throw center stick? Like, with the Rhino software?

Dr. No•11/13/23, 6:59 AM

Like rhino with elite dangerous?

Dr. No•11/13/23, 6:59 AM

Im curious to try it, not sure what FFB should be like

Bob Bushman•11/13/23, 9:25 AM

I'm not even sure you can get decent telemetry from elite so I would expect it to work like a very tuneable joystick.

Fierce_Fire•11/13/23, 9:42 AM

I'd assume telemffb would allow the joystick to work as a normal spring/friction based joystick

Bob Bushman•11/13/23, 9:50 AM

and that would be the absolute worst case scenario. It will absolutely work like an excellent stick at minimum.

VPforceBot•11/13/23, 10:34 AM

:package:

RHINO #0248 Has Shipped!

Stryker990•11/13/23, 11:07 AM

Only 480 more till i get mine

CapnFlint•11/13/23, 2:01 PM

Yeah I wouldn’t expect any FFB, but I don’t like long throw extensions for space games. I’m have to try it and see if there is a way to switch configs with the software end stops

CCapnFlint Yeah I wouldn’t expect any FFB, but I don’t like long throw extensions for space...

Number481OP•11/13/23, 2:11 PM

you can export as many different configurator setups as you want and load them manually in the configurator or you can load them programmatically by passing