One question, do we have any non-immutable folder in root where we could put another Steam Library?

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The SunOP•11/27/23, 4:40 AM

Case is my system is on a super fast NVME and my Home is now on an SSD but If I could play some games from the NVME I would be golden as it is much faster

TThe Sun Case is my system is on a super fast NVME and my Home is now on an SSD but If I ...

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termdisc•11/27/23, 6:40 AM

you'd be hardpressed to find a noticeable difference in game performance between a SATA SSD and an NVMe

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termdisc•11/27/23, 6:42 AM

that said, the only user-writable folder is

/home

/home

/home

/home, which is something that should be living on the NVMe anyway

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termdisc•11/27/23, 6:44 AM

because it sounds like you've either mounted the SSD to

/home

/home

/home

/home or alternatively symlinked it, you will need to create a new folder or partition that exists outside of the standard folder deployments and add that back as a steam library

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termdisc•11/27/23, 6:45 AM

that sounds messy to me, so I won't be providing further assistance

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bitte wieder main anschreiben•11/27/23, 7:48 AM

Excited to try it on the ally

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puella aeternis•11/27/23, 7:55 AM

anyone else having an issue where steam won't ever run anything with proton

native games work fine,

PROTON_LOG=1

PROTON_LOG=1

PROTON_LOG=1

PROTON_LOG=1 being set doesn't generate any logs lol

Ppuella aeternis anyone else having an issue where steam won't ever run anything with proton 🤔 n...

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Kyle Gospo•11/27/23, 7:55 AM

try validating your game files

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Kyle Gospo•11/27/23, 7:55 AM

if that fails, run steam with the terminal

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Kyle Gospo•11/27/23, 7:55 AM

and check that output

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Kyle Gospo•11/27/23, 7:55 AM

no proton log means proton didn't even run

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puella aeternis•11/27/23, 7:56 AM

yeah, and i'm stumped

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puella aeternis•11/27/23, 7:56 AM

the logs from steam in terminal are very unhelpful, i see the command it tries to run, then there's just nothing

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puella aeternis•11/27/23, 7:57 AM

bwrap: Can't make symlink at /run/host: File exists
/bin/sh\0-c\0PROTON_LOG=1 /var/home/<REDACTED>/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/reaper SteamLaunch AppId=1252780 -- /var/home/<REDACTED>/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-launch-wrapper -- '/var/home/<REDACTED>/Games/SteamLibrary/steamapps/common/SteamLinuxRuntime_sniper'/_v2-entry-point --verb=waitforexitandrun -- '/var/home/<REDACTED>/.local/share/Steam/compatibilitytools.d/GE-Proton8-25'/proton waitforexitandrun  '/var/home/<REDACTED>/Games/SteamLibrary/steamapps/common/Bloons Monkey City/MonkeyCity-Win.exe'\0
chdir "/var/home/<REDACTED>/Games/SteamLibrary/steamapps/common/Bloons Monkey City"
ERROR: ld.so: object '/var/home/<REDACTED>/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/var/home/<REDACTED>/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_64/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64): ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/var/home/<REDACTED>/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/var/home/<REDACTED>/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/var/home/<REDACTED>/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
WARNING: discarding _NET_WM_PID 5 as invalid for X11 window - use specialized XCB_X11_TO_PID function!
WARNING: discarding _NET_WM_PID 5 as invalid for X11 window - use specialized XCB_X11_TO_PID function!
WARNING: discarding _NET_WM_PID 5 as invalid for X11 window - use specialized XCB_X11_TO_PID function!
bwrap: Can't make symlink at /run/host: File exists
Uploaded AppInterfaceStats to Steam
[2023-11-27 17:57:29] Shutdown

bwrap: Can't make symlink at /run/host: File exists
/bin/sh\0-c\0PROTON_LOG=1 /var/home/<REDACTED>/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/reaper SteamLaunch AppId=1252780 -- /var/home/<REDACTED>/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-launch-wrapper -- '/var/home/<REDACTED>/Games/SteamLibrary/steamapps/common/SteamLinuxRuntime_sniper'/_v2-entry-point --verb=waitforexitandrun -- '/var/home/<REDACTED>/.local/share/Steam/compatibilitytools.d/GE-Proton8-25'/proton waitforexitandrun  '/var/home/<REDACTED>/Games/SteamLibrary/steamapps/common/Bloons Monkey City/MonkeyCity-Win.exe'\0
chdir "/var/home/<REDACTED>/Games/SteamLibrary/steamapps/common/Bloons Monkey City"
ERROR: ld.so: object '/var/home/<REDACTED>/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/var/home/<REDACTED>/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_64/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64): ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/var/home/<REDACTED>/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/var/home/<REDACTED>/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/var/home/<REDACTED>/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
WARNING: discarding _NET_WM_PID 5 as invalid for X11 window - use specialized XCB_X11_TO_PID function!
WARNING: discarding _NET_WM_PID 5 as invalid for X11 window - use specialized XCB_X11_TO_PID function!
WARNING: discarding _NET_WM_PID 5 as invalid for X11 window - use specialized XCB_X11_TO_PID function!
bwrap: Can't make symlink at /run/host: File exists
Uploaded AppInterfaceStats to Steam
[2023-11-27 17:57:29] Shutdown

bwrap: Can't make symlink at /run/host: File exists
/bin/sh\0-c\0PROTON_LOG=1 /var/home/<REDACTED>/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/reaper SteamLaunch AppId=1252780 -- /var/home/<REDACTED>/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-launch-wrapper -- '/var/home/<REDACTED>/Games/SteamLibrary/steamapps/common/SteamLinuxRuntime_sniper'/_v2-entry-point --verb=waitforexitandrun -- '/var/home/<REDACTED>/.local/share/Steam/compatibilitytools.d/GE-Proton8-25'/proton waitforexitandrun  '/var/home/<REDACTED>/Games/SteamLibrary/steamapps/common/Bloons Monkey City/MonkeyCity-Win.exe'\0
chdir "/var/home/<REDACTED>/Games/SteamLibrary/steamapps/common/Bloons Monkey City"
ERROR: ld.so: object '/var/home/<REDACTED>/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/var/home/<REDACTED>/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_64/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64): ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/var/home/<REDACTED>/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/var/home/<REDACTED>/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/var/home/<REDACTED>/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
WARNING: discarding _NET_WM_PID 5 as invalid for X11 window - use specialized XCB_X11_TO_PID function!
WARNING: discarding _NET_WM_PID 5 as invalid for X11 window - use specialized XCB_X11_TO_PID function!
WARNING: discarding _NET_WM_PID 5 as invalid for X11 window - use specialized XCB_X11_TO_PID function!
bwrap: Can't make symlink at /run/host: File exists
Uploaded AppInterfaceStats to Steam
[2023-11-27 17:57:29] Shutdown

bwrap: Can't make symlink at /run/host: File exists
/bin/sh\0-c\0PROTON_LOG=1 /var/home/<REDACTED>/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/reaper SteamLaunch AppId=1252780 -- /var/home/<REDACTED>/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-launch-wrapper -- '/var/home/<REDACTED>/Games/SteamLibrary/steamapps/common/SteamLinuxRuntime_sniper'/_v2-entry-point --verb=waitforexitandrun -- '/var/home/<REDACTED>/.local/share/Steam/compatibilitytools.d/GE-Proton8-25'/proton waitforexitandrun  '/var/home/<REDACTED>/Games/SteamLibrary/steamapps/common/Bloons Monkey City/MonkeyCity-Win.exe'\0
chdir "/var/home/<REDACTED>/Games/SteamLibrary/steamapps/common/Bloons Monkey City"
ERROR: ld.so: object '/var/home/<REDACTED>/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/var/home/<REDACTED>/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_64/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64): ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/var/home/<REDACTED>/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/var/home/<REDACTED>/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/var/home/<REDACTED>/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
WARNING: discarding _NET_WM_PID 5 as invalid for X11 window - use specialized XCB_X11_TO_PID function!
WARNING: discarding _NET_WM_PID 5 as invalid for X11 window - use specialized XCB_X11_TO_PID function!
WARNING: discarding _NET_WM_PID 5 as invalid for X11 window - use specialized XCB_X11_TO_PID function!
bwrap: Can't make symlink at /run/host: File exists
Uploaded AppInterfaceStats to Steam
[2023-11-27 17:57:29] Shutdown

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Kyle Gospo•11/27/23, 7:58 AM

bwrap: Can't make symlink at /run/host: File exists

this is the error

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Kyle Gospo•11/27/23, 7:58 AM

last time I saw this it was an issue with the library

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Kyle Gospo•11/27/23, 7:59 AM

and remaking it fixed it

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puella aeternis•11/27/23, 7:59 AM

i guess something got corrupted since switching away from distrobox

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puella aeternis•11/27/23, 8:00 AM

symptom only appeared the past few days though.... and i've never done anything, had no crashes, no reason for me to suspect a database corruption or anything

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puella aeternis•11/27/23, 8:00 AM

O: there's a "repair library" option in steam now

Ppuella aeternis O: there's a "repair library" option in steam now

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puella aeternis•11/27/23, 8:00 AM

did nothing tho lol

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Valerie•11/27/23, 8:02 AM

How hard would it be to implement Nobara's kernel tweaks onto bazzite? Considering it has ally support and all.

VValerie How hard would it be to implement Nobara's kernel tweaks onto bazzite? Consideri...

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Kyle Gospo•11/27/23, 8:02 AM

fsync kernel has a lot of it, that's why we're looking into switching

KKyle Gospo fsync kernel has a lot of it, that's why we're looking into switching

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Valerie•11/27/23, 8:03 AM

Interesting, good to hear

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Valerie•11/27/23, 8:03 AM

I should be able to switch to bazzite on my deck this week, very excited.

Ppuella aeternis did nothing tho lol

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puella aeternis•11/27/23, 8:04 AM

yeah... only way to fix it was to delete the entire directory. luckily i don't have bandwidth constraints..

Ppuella aeternis yeah... only way to fix it was to delete the entire directory. luckily i don't h...

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Kyle Gospo•11/27/23, 8:05 AM

you can copy your games back in

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Kyle Gospo•11/27/23, 8:05 AM

oddly enough just the library itself is the problem

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puella aeternis•11/27/23, 8:08 AM

yea had the thought but like i said not really an issue lol

HHikariKnight will just say this before heading to bed, i had the same issue on 38, its an ups...

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RodoMa92•11/27/23, 8:25 AM

Bluez 5.70 bug, might be fixed in the next release.

Ttermdisc I used to layer in fish when I used Kinoite

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dnkmmr•11/27/23, 8:29 AM

I used nix to install fish

Ttermdisc you'd be hardpressed to find a noticeable difference in game performance between...

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The SunOP•11/27/23, 10:03 AM

In games like D4 and POE area loading time is a problem and it's noticeable faster in a nvme drive than a SSD

Ttermdisc that said, the only user-writable folder is `/home`, which is something that sho...

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The SunOP•11/27/23, 10:06 AM

If you have a big enough NVME drive then sure why not but for people that wanted to save money and got a small fast nvme for system and a big slow SSD for files then it is essential to do this separation as it been common practice for years in other distros.

Ttermdisc because it sounds like you've either mounted the SSD to `/home` or alternatively...

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The SunOP•11/27/23, 10:09 AM

that's exactly what I did mounted a SSD to /home, again I now have access to 2TBs of space instead of 256GBs, proud of it in fact because it was not that easy with btrfs

Ttermdisc that sounds messy to me, so I won't be providing further assistance

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The SunOP•11/27/23, 10:10 AM

there is nothing messy about it, I've run 2 steam libraries for years in arch linux, it provides you with the flexibility to choose a faster drive when you want to for the games that need it - thank you for your comments!

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The SunOP•11/27/23, 10:17 AM

All I need to know is if in Silverblue/Bazzite the whole btrfs subvolume is immutable of can we add a folder to "/" and have persistent files there?

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The SunOP•11/27/23, 10:21 AM

Normally I would do this in /opt but I see Bazzite uses /opt for things like Nix and Brew so I'm not sure

TThe Sun One question, do we have any non-immutable folder in root where we could put ano...

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dreamyuki•11/27/23, 10:37 AM

/var/mnt

TThe Sun All I need to know is if in Silverblue/Bazzite the whole btrfs subvolume is immu...

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dreamyuki•11/27/23, 10:38 AM

/etc /var is mutable

Ddreamyuki /etc /var is mutable

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The SunOP•11/27/23, 10:44 AM

thank you so much dude!

SSpookySouls Rx7900XT R7 5800X3D 16gb ddr4 3200mhz

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HikariKnight•11/27/23, 12:40 PM

can you check what the gpu wattage is in a game running in gamescope session? as i assume thats where the issue is

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MikeNS•11/27/23, 12:50 PM

How do I enable on screen keyboard?

MMikeNS How do I enable on screen keyboard?

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termdisc•11/27/23, 12:53 PM

Press X with a desktop config or Steam+X with a gamepad config

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Madiator2011•11/27/23, 1:17 PM

Is there any reason why Bazzite is not detecing connected ethernet cable to dock?

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Madiator2011•11/27/23, 1:29 PM

ok had to change bios to XHCI

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SpookySouls•11/27/23, 1:30 PM

I'll check again when I get home later can you pin this comment for me or get someone to pin it so I can see it later?

SSpookySouls I'll check again when I get home later can you pin this comment for me or get so...

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HikariKnight•11/27/23, 1:32 PM

i will just write in your thread

Ddreamyuki /etc /var is mutable

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dnkmmr•11/27/23, 2:27 PM

the key difference between

/etc

/etc

and

/var

/var

is that each deployment has its own

/etc

/etc

so if you mess something up, you can just roll back.

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dnkmmr•11/27/23, 2:29 PM

it has been 7 days since our last successful image build

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SaberJ2X•11/27/23, 2:31 PM

eh, better measure 10 times and cut 1

One question, do we have any non-immutable folder in root where we could put another Steam Library?

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