>no update for 8 days, the horror vs: arch broke three different critical ways upstream in the last

>no update for 8 days, the horror
vs: arch broke three different critical ways upstream in the last 8 days
or: ubuntu broke half a year ago because of a still two year old package

ChaiQiOP•11/28/23, 5:11 PM

I like it here lol

ChaiQiOP•11/28/23, 5:17 PM

I don't mean to call out arch or ubuntu specifically, I just thought it was fascinating and worth noting that the lack of a (broken) update for a week is about the extent of things going wrong here

CChaiQi >no update for 8 days, the horror vs: arch broke three different critical ways u...

dnkmmr•11/28/23, 5:18 PM

wow. glad I am using an immutable distro

ChaiQiOP•11/28/23, 5:20 PM

Same

CChaiQi I don't mean to call out arch or ubuntu specifically, I just thought it was fasc...

HikariKnight•11/28/23, 8:05 PM

no veteran is going to say youre wrong though if they have used linux long enough

HHikariKnight no veteran is going to say youre wrong though if they have used linux long enoug...

ChaiQiOP•11/28/23, 8:11 PM

I'd hope so, at least - mostly because we have the concrete evidence right there in the failed builds. I think I saw 3 different critical breakages Arch would have ingested in regular updates, and I imagine the glibc (library?) update would cause long-term issues for Debian/Ubuntu as apps update beyond system packages. Here, all three hit, and just.. never reached users, and we stay on the last stable update for a few days/weeks until a stable one builds successfully

CChaiQi I'd hope so, at least - mostly because we have the concrete evidence right there...

HikariKnight•11/28/23, 8:12 PM

hence why i liked the idea of bazzite and ublue
i do however keep around 1 computer with a normal system for you know, actual testing outside of the mutability when needed

ChaiQiOP•11/28/23, 8:16 PM

heh, yeah

CChaiQi >no update for 8 days, the horror vs: arch broke three different critical ways u...

EyeCantCU•11/28/23, 9:09 PM

I know. Used to frantically check for updates (especially for my custom ROM'd Android devices) over the years, and it's at the point where I am just so happy it all happens in the background. Last thing I want to see unless I'm fixing/testing something

EEyeCantCU I know. Used to frantically check for updates (especially for my custom ROM'd An...

ChaiQiOP•11/28/23, 9:20 PM

Same! I think it's good to occasionally contextualize the development work here with perspectives like this

HikariKnight•11/28/23, 9:42 PM

i wouldnt worry about lack of builds succeeding unless its been like 3weeks to 1 month (with some exceptions if there is some super massive security flaw actively being exploited and its RCE)

ChaiQiOP•11/28/23, 10:32 PM

Yep

EyeCantCU•11/28/23, 10:52 PM

It would be a lot different in my eyes if something like main wasn't building or akmods or insert whatever core repo here since literally everything branches from that and depends on it, but one week isn't the end of the world otherwise

EyeCantCU•11/29/23, 2:07 AM

If anyone has the time I'd really appreciate a couple reviews. Overlooked this

https://github.com/ublue-os/config/pull/165

GitHub

fix(just): Copy nix justfile to correct location, restore ujust by ...

The nix justfile was overwriting ujust instead of being copied over to the directory containing the rest of the justfiles

j0rge•11/29/23, 2:20 AM

@EyeCantCU I kicked off akmods, but I'm hitting the sack, someone will need to kick off main and then bazzite to get that fix

Jj0rge @EyeCantCU I kicked off akmods, but I'm hitting the sack, someone will need to k...

EyeCantCU•11/29/23, 2:21 AM

Thank you! I'll be here to kick them off

EEyeCantCU Thank you! I'll be here to kick them off

bsherman•11/29/23, 2:58 AM

let me know if there's something else to help with

Bbsherman let me know if there's something else to help with

EyeCantCU•11/29/23, 3:22 AM

Appreciate it, I think we're good for now

bketelsen•11/29/23, 3:44 AM

tiny fix for incus on -dx, enabling incus vms: https://github.com/ublue-os/bluefin/pull/689

please?

GitHub

fix: add incus-agent by bketelsen · Pull Request #689 · ublue-os/bl...

adds missing incus-agent package

Bbketelsen tiny fix for incus on -dx, enabling incus vms: https://github.com/ublue-os/bluef...

Bigpod•11/29/23, 4:30 AM

what is source of incus package?

BBigpod what is source of incus package?

bketelsen•11/29/23, 10:05 AM

a copr from gantoo

Susan•11/29/23, 10:12 AM

what is ujust?

SSusan what is ujust?

HikariKnight•11/29/23, 11:03 AM

a helper script for just to just load the ublue default just files
think of it as a bunch of cli command shortcuts/recipes (similar to aliases but you can list all of them if you forget them)

HHikariKnight a helper script for just to just load the ublue default just files think of it a...

Susan•11/29/23, 11:04 AM

But isn't just anyways installed?

HikariKnight•11/29/23, 11:04 AM

it is

Susan•11/29/23, 11:04 AM

damn this whole thing is such a mess

HikariKnight•11/29/23, 11:04 AM

but it doesnt work properly in fish unless it runs ujust itself which forces bash

HikariKnight•11/29/23, 11:04 AM

hence why fish aliases just to ujust

HHikariKnight hence why fish aliases just to ujust

Susan•11/29/23, 11:05 AM

are you sure about that?

I been running it with alias just = just --unstable for a while now and it worked without issues

HikariKnight•11/29/23, 11:06 AM

i read somewhere here that there were issues with the just command on fish back when i joined

HikariKnight•11/29/23, 11:06 AM

i dont use fish myself

Susan•11/29/23, 11:07 AM

anyways due to a bunch of things that I don't like I think I might have to build my own project based on the same idea fully from scratch. I can port things on my own as needed if there is something special going on in ublue

HikariKnight•11/29/23, 11:07 AM

kyle and j0rge would know more about it as i think it was them discussing it back then

SSusan are you sure about that? I been running it with alias just = just --unstable fo...

xyny•11/29/23, 11:17 AM

i use with fish like that too, no issues

HikariKnight•11/29/23, 11:23 AM

@�� (xyny) @Emily Susan i checked up a bit, what i remembered was a different issue my bad
ujust is just a wrapper for just to include ublue just files so they dont need to put their just file inclusions inside ~/.justfile
avoiding conflicts with the user justfile

xyny•11/29/23, 11:23 AM

ujust sounds like unjust

Xxyny ujust sounds like unjust

HikariKnight•11/29/23, 11:25 AM

which is why i jokingly made the suggestion to rename it to

justu

justu

j0rge also doesnt like the name ujust

xyny•11/29/23, 11:27 AM

bluejust aka bust

j0rge•11/29/23, 1:02 PM

what's the issue with just?

j0rge•11/29/23, 1:03 PM

one the files busted last night but we fixed it

xyny•11/29/23, 1:32 PM

i don't have any issues with just

Bbketelsen a copr from gantoo

Bigpod•11/29/23, 2:23 PM

thanks

dnkmmr•11/29/23, 3:36 PM

we have 2 critical issues currently for bazzite https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/issues

T3selected•11/29/23, 3:40 PM

Just installed the bazzite deck but unfortunately I get a black screen every time I try to click on the ‘return to game mode’. I’ve tried the Ctrl Alt F2 to open the terminal and login so I could use the ‘steamos-session-select plasma’ to boot into the desktop mode. However, clicking on ‘return to game mode’ just takes me to square 1 again

T3selected•11/29/23, 3:42 PM

TT3selected Just installed the bazzite deck but unfortunately I get a black screen every tim...

HikariKnight•11/29/23, 3:46 PM

Did you run bazzite portal once so that steam actually can start once and download the required files for gamescope session to work?

HHikariKnight Did you run bazzite portal once so that steam actually can start once and downlo...

T3selected•11/29/23, 3:54 PM

Yes I’ve gone through the portal process already. As you can see from the vid the exclamation mark on the portal is missing since I’ve gone through the process already

T3selected•11/29/23, 3:55 PM

I’ll go through it again and reboot

T3selected•11/29/23, 4:12 PM

No progress unfortunately

TT3selected No progress unfortunately

Aru•11/29/23, 4:25 PM

try

rpm-ostree rollback

rpm-ostree rollback

, maybe there's something wrong with the latest version of bazzite.
there's some discussion about some new problems on the Steam Deck with bazzite, which could be related 🛟bazzite-helpNo audio on Steam Deck after bazzite-deck:latest update

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