BMust be wrong, wasn't sourced from war thunder forums.
原18 and 16 has some numbers in the manual. also some details are available in some NASA flight testing doc
BThe 16 is as disconnected as it can get as it relies on force sensing and not positon.
原probably they just chose to buy kits and DIY, or have changed mind, or missed the email, or forgot.. It seems AeroFusion has just started the business and still put the main focus on home market(CN)
原true, unless one day Mr.Walmis can perform his black magic again and add force sensing mode to VPForce
BWould be nice, but unfortunately a force sensing gimbal would be the only thing the rhino can't do.
Guess I still need to get a realsim..
Guess I still need to get a realsim..
原actually Walmis once said it's technically possible..and the aforementioned AeroFusion is planning to implement it on their advanced bases, tho not sure how good it will be
BHey I'll happily be wrong
TNope Virpil/Thrustmaster is default
DWell I'll be damned...it's here in Charlotte NC and set for delivery today.
D
AIt's very hard to install ffb on my crosswinds, I can't see kits anywhere
BCause they are diy. You take one of the rhino motor kits and "figure it out"
WI'll provide kits with the necessary stuff to mount the FFB kit on the MFG. Only 4 holes are needed to drill into the MFG base using a template 
NFWIW, my VPC mod requires zero permanent modification to the pedals. I would like to try the MFGs though. And the TPRs for that matter!
PMy dreams comes true thank you
JAnd they work wonderfully.
MAny eta on this? Need to brace my wallet
UHi, F14 stick behaves strangely. There is a force forward. Is this normal?
Isame for me, I think this is how they implemented the f14
PFFB + MFG?! Any more info on that I would love to get that setup, is it do-able now with the motor kits?
PIs it trim force you are feeling?
MMaybe you could get in contact with Milan to have him integrate the needed holes in the product from scratch?
He seems to be pretty open to modifications on his pedals, the V3 pedals having been modified to fix things based on the feedback he got from his clients.
He seems to be pretty open to modifications on his pedals, the V3 pedals having been modified to fix things based on the feedback he got from his clients.
UI don't know what it is. It moves the stick to end forward position and then you have to fight it. When you move the stick back you have to fight with it and when move past center that force decreases. I don't think the real stick behaves this way, it is dangerous.
MYeah, a couple folks have done it, but iirc, no one has posted schematics. The design of the crosswinds themselves lends nicely to conversion to FFB using a single motor
LF14 should behave very predictably. Its ffb implementation is great. You might need to invert the axis in dcs controls, ffb settings
DYour VPC pedals mod sound very interesting, could you posts a photo of it please ?
I used to have MFG pedals but I changed to the Virpil VPC ones because I find them better for helicopters and they fit on my DOF H6 motion platform better. I actual have both types of VPC pedals, the ones with toe brakes and also the simpler ones without.
I used to have MFG pedals but I changed to the Virpil VPC ones because I find them better for helicopters and they fit on my DOF H6 motion platform better. I actual have both types of VPC pedals, the ones with toe brakes and also the simpler ones without.
Fyou must be a dedicated FFB guy using that old Microsoft stick 
TTrim it
NI published my as built on GitHub. https://github.com/Number481/VirpilACE-VPForce-Mod
I’ve also posted some picks here and there. https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/972180323787997255/1120453484463005807
I’ve also posted some picks here and there. https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/972180323787997255/1120453484463005807
GitHub
DIY VPForce 86BLF-03 kit mod for the Virpil ACE rudder pedals - GitHub - Number481/VirpilACE-VPForce-Mod: DIY VPForce 86BLF-03 kit mod for the Virpil ACE rudder pedals
DInteresting. I am still using the old Logitech ones because I did not think any other pedal sets fit the pedal plate for the H6/P6.
BThe absolute worst case, you grab a piece of plywood and drill some holes to fit both your chosen pedals and your mount
RJust checking out what’s going on in here and I see more chat about MFG FFB mod… it’s like a Christmas miracle! Better start saving!
Better start saving!
PThat sounds very interesting. When is the kit expected to be available to order? Are you also thinking about such kits for the TM TPR or the VPC ACE, since these are very widely used?
DI used to be Fr4Ged, but I could never get xpForce to work properly with it, and now that I have my lovely Rhino it is in danger of being sold !
DThanks for the links and info.
My apologies for not spotting them before but I'm still blundering around in Discord, even though I've been following a number of specific interest groups on here for a year or so, I'm still not very adept with it.
My apologies for not spotting them before but I'm still blundering around in Discord, even though I've been following a number of specific interest groups on here for a year or so, I'm still not very adept with it.
VGreat...I am interested as well
Dwonder is someone knows whats going on here, i made some changes to my diy rhino ( new limiters ) and did the callibration and now both motor center are red, any idea what that means ?
D
PThx for sharing
DThanks again for the links and nice clear photos.
I've read through them and I think I'll have a crack at it myself
As I understand it so far, I just need to order a single motor kit with circuit board and then fix the motor vertically behind my VKB pedals. I already use them without the "spider" feet because I mounted the central box unit on a flat plywood plate, which makes it easier to attach to my DOF h6.
So if I bought the kit, plus a cutout switch, an adjusting pot, a USB 2.0 B socket, a drive belt, and a motor cog, then I just need to source a printed large gear wheel ?
I notice you specified the middle size single stepper motor kit, I guess because it's the best torque rating for pedals ?
Is there a waiting list for single motor kits ?
I've read through them and I think I'll have a crack at it myself
As I understand it so far, I just need to order a single motor kit with circuit board and then fix the motor vertically behind my VKB pedals. I already use them without the "spider" feet because I mounted the central box unit on a flat plywood plate, which makes it easier to attach to my DOF h6.
So if I bought the kit, plus a cutout switch, an adjusting pot, a USB 2.0 B socket, a drive belt, and a motor cog, then I just need to source a printed large gear wheel ?
I notice you specified the middle size single stepper motor kit, I guess because it's the best torque rating for pedals ?
Is there a waiting list for single motor kits ?
Dthx
AYou're welcome ^^
JNo waiting for the motor kits. As far as I remember. Had mine within a week
JUSB socket comes with it
JI’m looking at the H6 myself. Quite pricey but it looks absolutely incredible.
NHonestly, the primary reason I went with the 03 vs the 04 motor is that the 04 was backordered when I was ready to order and I don't like waiting. My published as-built design specifies the 03 because the longer motor would not fit without some modification to the design..
The reality is that even the 03 motor is capable of providing more than enough force for my tastes.
Looking at your setup, I think the challenge will be getting the motor mounted in a way such that the output shaft is inline with where the drive gear would attach to the pedal arms.
The reality is that even the 03 motor is capable of providing more than enough force for my tastes.
Looking at your setup, I think the challenge will be getting the motor mounted in a way such that the output shaft is inline with where the drive gear would attach to the pedal arms.
JI second what @_gunzablazin said about the 03. It’s MORE than enough.
JYou’ll know real quick if you’ve been skipping leg day.