Is there a reference for stick forces of dcs planes at all?
Is there a reference for stick forces of dcs planes at all?
Moop, found it with more google
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20090022749/downloads/20090022749.pdf
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20090022749/downloads/20090022749.pdf
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SHey Guys. I Had too man parts printed and have now a duplicate DIY rhino thats only Missing some parts and the Kit. The Gimbal and Pulley are printed from PETG CF. The Case from PETG. Location is Germany. Will Finish it in the next 1-3 weeks since i muss some parts wich have longer Delivery times
This one https://github.com/protomaker964/Rhino-FFB-Clone-3D_Printed/tree/main
This one https://github.com/protomaker964/Rhino-FFB-Clone-3D_Printed/tree/main
GitHub
3D print files, parts list and instructions to build a DIY version of the Rhino FFB Stick base using the VPForce motor kit - GitHub - protomaker964/Rhino-FFB-Clone-3D_Printed: 3D print files, parts...
CI went from #0752 to #663 with 438 rhinos to go before me to 345 since yesterday. That‘s great!
Fnice. I jumped 87 slots as well.
SDo I need any adapters or anything to use the virpil grips?
SI actually think the Aerofusion is great, its awesome to see some low cost FFB flight stick options, i think we are witnessing the dawn of proper FFB in flight simulation. But theres no doubt that the Rhino looks, and clearly is, a much better unit. Hence the price difference
MFor someone who does not have pedals yet, what would be the best choice between the Crosswind and Virpil Ace pedals to install an FFB kit?
RI would like to place the Rhino on the right side of my chair (floor placement). What do you guys think?
Is it still comfortable to steer?
Is it still comfortable to steer?
WCrosswind will be easiest to mount a FFB kit
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BCrosswinds are all in all great, I have had mine since 2017 and they feel like new.
I have added a damper kit and that was all the update I needed.
I have added a damper kit and that was all the update I needed.
Dgoing a little deep in that rabbit hole..
BMust be wrong, wasn't sourced from war thunder forums.
原18 and 16 has some numbers in the manual. also some details are available in some NASA flight testing doc
BThe 16 is as disconnected as it can get as it relies on force sensing and not positon.
原probably they just chose to buy kits and DIY, or have changed mind, or missed the email, or forgot.. It seems AeroFusion has just started the business and still put the main focus on home market(CN)
原true, unless one day Mr.Walmis can perform his black magic again and add force sensing mode to VPForce
BWould be nice, but unfortunately a force sensing gimbal would be the only thing the rhino can't do.
Guess I still need to get a realsim..
Guess I still need to get a realsim..
原actually Walmis once said it's technically possible..and the aforementioned AeroFusion is planning to implement it on their advanced bases, tho not sure how good it will be
BHey I'll happily be wrong
TNope Virpil/Thrustmaster is default
DWell I'll be damned...it's here in Charlotte NC and set for delivery today.
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AIt's very hard to install ffb on my crosswinds, I can't see kits anywhere
BCause they are diy. You take one of the rhino motor kits and "figure it out"
WI'll provide kits with the necessary stuff to mount the FFB kit on the MFG. Only 4 holes are needed to drill into the MFG base using a template 
NFWIW, my VPC mod requires zero permanent modification to the pedals. I would like to try the MFGs though. And the TPRs for that matter!
PMy dreams comes true thank you
JAnd they work wonderfully.
MAny eta on this? Need to brace my wallet
UHi, F14 stick behaves strangely. There is a force forward. Is this normal?
Isame for me, I think this is how they implemented the f14
PFFB + MFG?! Any more info on that I would love to get that setup, is it do-able now with the motor kits?
PIs it trim force you are feeling?
MMaybe you could get in contact with Milan to have him integrate the needed holes in the product from scratch?
He seems to be pretty open to modifications on his pedals, the V3 pedals having been modified to fix things based on the feedback he got from his clients.
He seems to be pretty open to modifications on his pedals, the V3 pedals having been modified to fix things based on the feedback he got from his clients.
UI don't know what it is. It moves the stick to end forward position and then you have to fight it. When you move the stick back you have to fight with it and when move past center that force decreases. I don't think the real stick behaves this way, it is dangerous.
MYeah, a couple folks have done it, but iirc, no one has posted schematics. The design of the crosswinds themselves lends nicely to conversion to FFB using a single motor
LF14 should behave very predictably. Its ffb implementation is great. You might need to invert the axis in dcs controls, ffb settings
DYour VPC pedals mod sound very interesting, could you posts a photo of it please ?
I used to have MFG pedals but I changed to the Virpil VPC ones because I find them better for helicopters and they fit on my DOF H6 motion platform better. I actual have both types of VPC pedals, the ones with toe brakes and also the simpler ones without.
I used to have MFG pedals but I changed to the Virpil VPC ones because I find them better for helicopters and they fit on my DOF H6 motion platform better. I actual have both types of VPC pedals, the ones with toe brakes and also the simpler ones without.
Fyou must be a dedicated FFB guy using that old Microsoft stick 
TTrim it
NI published my as built on GitHub. https://github.com/Number481/VirpilACE-VPForce-Mod
I’ve also posted some picks here and there. https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/972180323787997255/1120453484463005807
I’ve also posted some picks here and there. https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/972180323787997255/1120453484463005807
GitHub
DIY VPForce 86BLF-03 kit mod for the Virpil ACE rudder pedals - GitHub - Number481/VirpilACE-VPForce-Mod: DIY VPForce 86BLF-03 kit mod for the Virpil ACE rudder pedals
DInteresting. I am still using the old Logitech ones because I did not think any other pedal sets fit the pedal plate for the H6/P6.
BThe absolute worst case, you grab a piece of plywood and drill some holes to fit both your chosen pedals and your mount
RJust checking out what’s going on in here and I see more chat about MFG FFB mod… it’s like a Christmas miracle! Better start saving!
Better start saving!
PThat sounds very interesting. When is the kit expected to be available to order? Are you also thinking about such kits for the TM TPR or the VPC ACE, since these are very widely used?
DI used to be Fr4Ged, but I could never get xpForce to work properly with it, and now that I have my lovely Rhino it is in danger of being sold !
DThanks for the links and info.
My apologies for not spotting them before but I'm still blundering around in Discord, even though I've been following a number of specific interest groups on here for a year or so, I'm still not very adept with it.
My apologies for not spotting them before but I'm still blundering around in Discord, even though I've been following a number of specific interest groups on here for a year or so, I'm still not very adept with it.